jbg Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 .I wasn't sure whether to post on this real-life tragedy of not (link to news story, excerpts below).What is interesting, based on other parts of the story that I did not quote,that ordinary Iraqis thought it was funny, and were gloating. Death should never be celebrated. Suicide Bomb Trainer in Iraq Accidentally Blows Up His Class By DURAID ADNAN and TIM ARANGO FEB. 10, 2014 BAGHDAD — If there were such a thing, it would probably be rule No. 1 in the teaching manual for instructors of aspiring suicide bombers: Don’t give lessons with live explosives. In what represented a cautionary tale for terrorist teachers, and a cause of dark humor for ordinary Iraqis, a commander at a secluded terrorist training camp north of Baghdad unwittingly used a belt packed with explosives while conducting a demonstration early Monday for a group of militants, killing himself and 21 other members of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, army and police officials said.Iraqi citizens have long been accustomed to daily attacks on public markets, mosques, funerals and even children’s soccer games, so they saw the story of the fumbling militants as a dark — and delicious — kind of poetic justice, especially coming amid a protracted surge of violence led by the terrorist group, including a rise in suicide bombings.Just last week a suicide bomber struck a popular falafel shop near the Ministry of Foreign Affairs here, killing several people. On Monday evening Raad Hashim, working the counter at a liquor store near the site of the attack, burst out laughing when he heard the news. While some may think, based on other posts that I am laughing at these people,I am not. They are, fortunately or unfortunately, fired up with hate at an early age. They probably, really, cannot help themselves. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 This is just another example of a failing school system..."Why Can't Johnny Build Suicide Bombs". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 I am going to say that this story is fake. Quote
jbg Posted February 21, 2014 Author Report Posted February 21, 2014 I am going to say that this story is fake. Did you read the New York Times link? The New York Times is as pro-Arab and left-wing as it gets in the U.S. of A. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Rue Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) Well clearly JBG if the New York Times is as pro Arab and left wing as it gets in the US you should try read the Toronto Star or Toronto Globe and Mail. On a more serious note terrorism is entrenched right now in the Middle East as a means of political expression and the trendy left wing ignores it. They won't speak of it, analyze it, or acknowledge its presence. They will select out the US and Israel for criticism and then argue well they can remain silent on terrorists because there are two standards, one for Israel-Us and one for the countries that harbour them and promote them making the argument since the US and Israel claim to be democracies and the others don't this justifies the double standard. You have read it on this board repeatedly. On this board we can accuse Israel of being an evil Zionist nation, then state Zionism needs to be wiped out like a cancer and then argue in the same breath this doesn't mean this position calls for the wiping out of Israel As long as we put the word "Zionist"or "Zionism" or "American" in, somehow all logic is suspended and the double standard of anything Israeli or American being evil and terrorism being ignored kicks in, You see it vividly on this board.Wiping out Zionism as a cancer is presented as a reasonable exchange of opinion when discussing Israel. Imagine the leftist trendy response if I came on this board and said the same about Sharia Law using that exact same logic... I have always said be careful when we criticize terrorism and I mean you, me, all of us and not in a patronizing way, because if we criticize all Muslims when doing it, we are no better than the terrorists and the people on this board who remain silent to it and the injustices of Sharia law. Sharia law and Muslim fundamentalist extremism fuels Middle East terrorism but I again argue it imprisons its own people and kills them more than anyone else. What I worry about now JBG is that I think Obama has been a miserable failure with foreign policy. I believe he created a vacuum from his weakness that has enabled Putin to move in and recapture Saudi Arabia and Egypt as pawns and is able to destroy the Ukraine through his puppets as the Olympics continues. Whether you and I like it or not, without a stong US foreign presence,terrorism and leaders like Putin thrive without interference or restraint. As for the b.s.double standard and trendy leftists who take their own privileges and freedoms for granted and do not realize they came at a cost the irony is that they do not and will never understand the terrorists hate them most of anyone on this planet. They find their alleged sympathy for their cause beneath their contempt. In the world of trendy leftism, the primal evil in humanity is always explained as the terrorist being a victim-they romanticize terrorists as misunderstood victims. Edited February 21, 2014 by Rue Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 While some may think, based on other posts that I am laughing at these people,I am not. They are, fortunately or unfortunately, fired up with hate at an early age. They probably, really, cannot help themselves. Well I didn't see in anything in the article when I skimmed it about the age of the students, so they could have all been adults as far as we know. This is an oddly positive development since it almost certainly saved lives in the end. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
DogOnPorch Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 I am going to say that this story is fake. Apparently not. http://nypost.com/2014/02/10/suicide-bomb-instructor-blows-up-his-students-by-mistake/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2556064/Gang-21-Iraqi-militants-accidentally-blow-making-promotional-video-suicide-bomber-launch-attack.html http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/iraqi-extremists-accidentally-set-car-bomb-21-killed-article-1.1608735 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 We've seen other articles like this get legs in the media to only find out later it as fake. I am not buying it. Quote
Wilber Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 Hope it's true. Love it when a bomber blows themself up by mistake. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
jbg Posted February 21, 2014 Author Report Posted February 21, 2014 Hope it's true. Love it when a bomber blows themself up by mistake. Yes. But he took with him constructive, top-flight intellectual talent; his students. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Moonlight Graham Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 Yes. But he took with him constructive, top-flight intellectual talent; his students. Ya those students sounded like a real bunch of winners! Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
DogOnPorch Posted February 21, 2014 Report Posted February 21, 2014 We've seen other articles like this get legs in the media to only find out later it as fake. I am not buying it. OK...lol. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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