eyeball Posted February 15, 2015 Report Posted February 15, 2015 Society's attitude on this subject is disgraceful. Yes it is and I can probably thank that for some of my crappy attitude towards society. I guess it could just be a co-incidence that society has swerved hard towards conservatism since my son's diagnosis. In any case, maybe I can't help but recall how past arguments on this topic polarized along the usual ideological lines, especially at the intersection where the mentally ill and police cross paths. Being humane and understanding is just too much at odds with getting tough and cracking down. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
jbg Posted February 15, 2015 Report Posted February 15, 2015 Yes it is and I can probably thank that for some of my crappy attitude towards society. I guess it could just be a co-incidence that society has swerved hard towards conservatism since my son's diagnosis. In any case, maybe I can't help but recall how past arguments on this topic polarized along the usual ideological lines, especially at the intersection where the mentally ill and police cross paths. Being humane and understanding is just too much at odds with getting tough and cracking down.As I pointed out the very huggy huggy liberals such as George McGovern were no better. That is one reason that I have moved in a more conservative direction. I just don't see that the liberals are that compassionate. They talk a very good game. Don't believe it. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
eyeball Posted February 15, 2015 Report Posted February 15, 2015 Well, at least we both agree public attitudes suck so lets not spoil the moment. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
jbg Posted February 16, 2015 Report Posted February 16, 2015 Well, at least we both agree public attitudes suck so lets not spoil the moment.We totally agree. And I think that it takes some personal tragedy for these people to show any interest in mental health. Societal attitudes and the quality of the available care are both below abominable. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jacee Posted March 21, 2015 Author Report Posted March 21, 2015 And another one ... http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/canada/calgary/anthony-heffernan-s-death-raises-questions-for-family-1.3004069 Anthony Heffernan's death raises questions for family They were called to the scene for reports of a man behaving strangely. ... they were able to see the man was agitated and in medical distress. Once inside, officers say they were confronted with a high-risk situation that escalated to the point where a firearm was discharged. ... Heffernan was holding a lighter in one hand and a syringe in the other when he was shot. Quote
Wilber Posted March 21, 2015 Report Posted March 21, 2015 A syringe is pretty dangerous. Particularly if the one weilding it has HIV or Hep C. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Bob Macadoo Posted March 21, 2015 Report Posted March 21, 2015 Particularly if the one weilding it has HIV or Hep C. So are fingernails then.....better shoot when they have hands-up. Quote
Wilber Posted March 21, 2015 Report Posted March 21, 2015 So are fingernails then.....better shoot when they have hands-up. Not really but it does give you some idea of the risks police and other first responders run when dealing with potentialy violent addicts. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Bob Macadoo Posted March 21, 2015 Report Posted March 21, 2015 Not really but it does give you some idea of the risks police and other first responders run when dealing with potentialy violent addicts. ....not really. Quote
jacee Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Not just the mentally ill but ... interesting ... somewhat horrifying ... American police killed more people in March (111) than the entire UK police have killed since 1900 (52) US population is 5 times UK. . Edited April 14, 2015 by jacee Quote
LemonPureLeaf Posted April 15, 2015 Report Posted April 15, 2015 I support police shooting so called people when they're threatening the officers. Police must not allow themselves to get stabbed or shot or pissed on or ejaculated on or crapped on or anything else that is bad. Quote
guyser Posted April 15, 2015 Report Posted April 15, 2015 I support police shooting so called people when they're threatening the officers.You are also on record for liking people to get shot running away. Your support is idiocy. But you are welcome to an idiotic viewpoint. Quote
cybercoma Posted April 15, 2015 Report Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) I support police shooting so called people when they're threatening the officers. Police must not allow themselves to get stabbed or shot or pissed on or ejaculated on or crapped on or anything else that is bad."So-called people?" There's nothing so-called about it. These are people, full stop. Edited April 15, 2015 by cybercoma Quote
jacee Posted April 15, 2015 Author Report Posted April 15, 2015 "So-called people?" There's nothing so-called about it. These are people, full stop.LemonPure, on the other hand, is a ... Leaf. . Quote
jacee Posted April 20, 2015 Author Report Posted April 20, 2015 And one rookie cop gets it right: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhJKyK6VqDI&sns=em Quote
jbg Posted April 21, 2015 Report Posted April 21, 2015 "So-called people?" There's nothing so-called about it. These are people, full stop. The job of the policeis to maintain public order. Full stop. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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