CPCFTW Posted June 7, 2013 Report Posted June 7, 2013 About 1mil jobs since jan 2010 and 500k since the cpc got a majority in may 2011. Fyi 1mil is over 5% of our labour force of 19mil. But let's hand over the reigns to a drama teacher... Quote
Boges Posted June 7, 2013 Report Posted June 7, 2013 McJobs Blah Blah Blah. Don't forget about Duffy!!! It's nice that these jobs are 100% private sector. Quote
Fletch 27 Posted June 7, 2013 Report Posted June 7, 2013 And these are mostly FULL TIME jobs.. But Lets hand the reigns over to an angry Socialist.. Quote
segnosaur Posted June 7, 2013 Report Posted June 7, 2013 Keep in mind that I'm a person who voted conservative in the last election... I do not think that all of the credit should necessarily go to the conservatives, and its quite possible we would have seen job growth had the Liberals or NDP been in power. (While it may be fun to bash one party while praising another, the fact is that quite often the economy will grow or shrink based on factors outside the control of the government.) Its also possible that this is either a temporary blip, or some pent-up demand. Lets give it a month or 2 to see if the growth is sustained. Quote
Pliny Posted June 7, 2013 Report Posted June 7, 2013 (edited) And the rate in the US rose from 7.5 to 7.6. I don't think there is any sustainability to this rise in Canada although Flaherty finds it "encouraging". The reason I think that is there isn't much stability in the global political/economic scene. The middle east is certainly unstable. The Euro has not settled in yet or reached bottom - if it can survive at all. China's production has slowed. And our biggest neighbour, the US, is in the throes of several political scandals and faces the implementation of the Affordable (Ha Ha) Healthcare act. Edited June 7, 2013 by Pliny Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
guyser Posted June 7, 2013 Report Posted June 7, 2013 But let's hand over the reigns to a drama teacher... ...from the mail room clerk. Quote
CPCFTW Posted June 7, 2013 Author Report Posted June 7, 2013 ...from the mail room clerk. From the guy with a master's in economics. Quote
eyeball Posted June 7, 2013 Report Posted June 7, 2013 From the guy with a master's in economics. Bwahahahahaha! Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Hudson Jones Posted June 7, 2013 Report Posted June 7, 2013 I really think the Harper government should take credit for all the low skilled, fast food jobs that MacDonald's is creating. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Fletch 27 Posted June 7, 2013 Report Posted June 7, 2013 You may want to read where the Jobs are coming form.. I really think the Harper government should take credit for all the low skilled, fast food jobs that MacDonald's is creating. Quote
DFCaper Posted June 7, 2013 Report Posted June 7, 2013 I really think the Harper government should take credit for all the low skilled, fast food jobs that MacDonald's is creating. Not all of them. Does adding Temperary Foreign Workers make up some of this 95,000? Isn't that who we now use for McJobs? Quote "Although the world is full of suffering, it is full also of the overcoming of it" - Hellen Keller "Success is not measured by the heights one attains, but by the obstacles one overcomes in its attainment" - Booker T. Washington
Boges Posted June 7, 2013 Report Posted June 7, 2013 From what I hear, there are a lot of High Skill jobs available. It's just people like to go to school and get educated in fields where the prospect of employment is low. I'm sure someone trained in an in-demand trade would have no problem finding a job in Canada. Quote
Hudson Jones Posted June 7, 2013 Report Posted June 7, 2013 You may want to read where the Jobs are coming form.. They're mostly low-skilled or semi-skilled jobs. Half of the jobs are contract labour jobs in the construction industry. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Hudson Jones Posted June 7, 2013 Report Posted June 7, 2013 (edited) From what I hear, there are a lot of High Skill jobs available. It's just people like to go to school and get educated in fields where the prospect of employment is low. I'm sure someone trained in an in-demand trade would have no problem finding a job in Canada. This is true. If Canadians want jobs, we need to adapt by getting education in industries where there are and there will be shortage. A study I read found that Canada needs to let in at least 600,000 people a year, as opposed to 250,000, in order to keep up with the shortage of workers both high and low-skilled and to offset the low birthrate we have. The baby boomers are retiring and we're going to need fresh blood. Edited June 7, 2013 by Hudson Jones Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
August1991 Posted June 7, 2013 Report Posted June 7, 2013 About 1mil jobs since jan 2010 and 500k since the cpc got a majority in may 2011. Fyi 1mil is over 5% of our labour force of 19mil. But let's hand over the reigns to a drama teacher... Ronald Reagan was an actor. What's your point? Quote
Bryan Posted June 8, 2013 Report Posted June 8, 2013 From what I hear, there are a lot of High Skill jobs available. It's just people like to go to school and get educated in fields where the prospect of employment is low. I'm sure someone trained in an in-demand trade would have no problem finding a job in Canada. Absolutely. The biggest problem we have in this country with respect to employment is a shortage of workers for skilled jobs. That's why there are so many "we'll pay you to take this course" programs out there right now. More people are needed than there are people applying for the jobs. Quote
MadX Posted June 8, 2013 Report Posted June 8, 2013 Even if 95,000 jobs are created, it doesn't mean Harper can take credit. As stated by a previous poster the economy is affected by factors that are outside of government control. Besides, with Harper continuing to run up our national debt, even if he does contribute to job growth, our country will eventually head into economic ruin when we can't pay our bills any longer. He's reckless, dangerous, and needs to go. Quote http://www.antiharper.com
Bryan Posted June 8, 2013 Report Posted June 8, 2013 Proportional to government income, and as a percentage of GDP, current deficits are very low compared to previous governments. Quote
WWWTT Posted June 8, 2013 Report Posted June 8, 2013 Absolutely. The biggest problem we have in this country with respect to employment is a shortage of workers for skilled jobs. That's why there are so many "we'll pay you to take this course" programs out there right now. More people are needed than there are people applying for the jobs. Nope,sorry,but this is false! If there is a shortage,you offer more money. The biggest problem right now is that these in demand jobs are underpaid! I work construction and it's not easy! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Bryan Posted June 8, 2013 Report Posted June 8, 2013 It's the high paying jobs that are having the most trouble finding workers. Quote
Newfoundlander Posted June 9, 2013 Report Posted June 9, 2013 Keep in mind that I'm a person who voted conservative in the last election... I do not think that all of the credit should necessarily go to the conservatives, and its quite possible we would have seen job growth had the Liberals or NDP been in power. (While it may be fun to bash one party while praising another, the fact is that quite often the economy will grow or shrink based on factors outside the control of the government.) Its also possible that this is either a temporary blip, or some pent-up demand. Lets give it a month or 2 to see if the growth is sustained. So you don't think raising taxes on business would have effected if they hired employees of not? Quote
Newfoundlander Posted June 9, 2013 Report Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) Not all of them. Does adding Temperary Foreign Workers make up some of this 95,000? Isn't that who we now use for McJobs? How exactly would TFW effect the unemployment rate of Canadians? Edited June 9, 2013 by Newfoundlander Quote
Hudson Jones Posted June 9, 2013 Report Posted June 9, 2013 Proportional to government income, and as a percentage of GDP, current deficits are very low compared to previous governments. Where do you get your information from? Because: Source Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Newfoundlander Posted June 9, 2013 Report Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) Where do you get your information from? Because: Source Wow you went back 9 years to one other government. As a percentage of GDP Harper's deficits aren't that bad when you compare them to the early years of Chretien's administration, Mulroney's, Trudeau's, Clark's, and Pearson's. http://www.cbc.ca/news/interactives/canada-deficit/debt.html Edited June 9, 2013 by Newfoundlander Quote
Keepitsimple Posted June 9, 2013 Report Posted June 9, 2013 It would be very representative if we could show that diagram going back to Pearson't transition to Trudeau. Trudeau went wild with spending - his philosophy WAS to use debt to fulfil his "vision". Mulroney did nothing but tread water over his years and by the time Chretien took over, something had to be done. You may not like the way Chretien and Martin did it - downloading scads to the provinces and refusing to lower EI rates while using the EI surplus as general revenues to pay down debt - BUT they did tame the Federal debt (while adding debt to the Provinces). As the diagram shows, Harper continued managing the debt through 2006-2008 and then we got smacked with the recession. It took almost a decade for Chretien/Martin to do their thing. So now we have another challenge brought on by the global recession. Lets see what this chart looks like in 5 years......or perhaps people would have liked Harper to do what the NDP suggested - spend MORE! Or the Liberals - spend FASTER! I don't recall anyone saying to spend LESS. Quote Back to Basics
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