Canadian Neocon Foreign Minister Praises Illegal Israeli Terror Attack

[PIK]

Syria declared war on Israel along time ago, so what is illegal about this attack on someone that is legally at war with you? People seem to forget this little point. Israel would be the safest place for anyone to live in that region.

[Boges]

Syria declared war on Israel along time ago, so what is illegal about this attack on someone that is legally at war with you? People seem to forget this little point. Israel would be the safest place for anyone to live in that region.

They don't have a peace treaty with Syria like they do with Egypt. So yeah, it's sort of like Korea, both sides are in a dormant state of conflict.

[PIK]

They don't have a peace treaty with Syria like they do with Egypt. So yeah, it's sort of like Korea, both sides are in a dormant state of conflict.

And the muslim brotherhood would love to get out of that one.

[roy baty]

Wow. The hatred of Israel from Lenny and Jones in here is so intense there is no reasoning with them. Tell me guys, do you or your family happen to hail from any of the surrounding nations that despise Israel? Or were you just indoctrinated by a left wing or fanatic professor who does hail from a surrounding nation who shares the same hatred as you do?

Here's the reality: If every nation in the middle east were to throw their weapons into the sea there would be peace in the middle east. If only Israel did, there would be genocide. The fact that you can't grasp that simple statement proves you both are a complete and utter lost cause to debate this topic with.

Edited May 7, 2013 by roy baty

[roy baty]

That's the problem Roy with your type and Bush Cheney (lol) You can't even understand the difference between being critical of Israel's actions and being anti-Jewish. You have such an utterly simplistic view of the world that hell you might even vote for Bush/Cheney.

You are so ignorant about the region on top of that Roy that you actually think Israel is the only democracy in the region!!!!

Hello look at Turkey, which in the 20th century was actually more secular than Israel (which treats much of its claimed inhabitants as third rate not even citizens.)

I'll bet none of you have ever been to the region. Your whole perspective of the region is based on the 'stuff' (euphemism) you regurgitate from third hand resources. You have no idea of what the reality is like on the ground there.

So tell us Lenny, how long have you lived in Israel or Palistine so you can provide us with all of your first-hand horror stories of the evil Israelis and their quest to wipe out their surrounding enemies through offensive aggression?

Yes you're right about Turkey... Well, at least a couple of democracies is a good start, then again perhaps you disagree..

Edited May 7, 2013 by roy baty

[GostHacked]

The best defense is a strong offense. Why did Canada bomb Libya ?

I wonder if that was what the Japanese were thinking when they bombed Pearl Harbor.

[Boges]

I wonder if that was what the Japanese were thinking when they bombed Pearl Harbor.

That's exactly what they were thinking. They knew they probably couldn't beat the US in a sustained war so they wanted to take their Navy out completely. Had the Aircraft carriers been at Pearl Harbour they may have been successful too.

6 months later they tried to finish the job at Midway but the US won. Some would say by luck because dive bombers were able to attack Japanese Carriers while they were switching ordinance so the bombs completely sank 3 of the 4 of the Carriers in less than an hour.

[Lenny_Bruce]

Once again Roy questioning Israel to you = anti fanatic hate for Israel.

Reality Roy questioning a governments' actions is healthy. Its those who don't question governments that end up being fanatic authoritarian types, who might you know support murderous attacks on sovereign nations. That wouldn't describe you or Mr. Baird would it?

[Lenny_Bruce]

Israel would be the safest place for anyone to live in that region.

How would you like to be a Palestinian who can get shot at will and on a whim from sniper towers just for going to work in the morning?

[bush_cheney2004]

That's exactly what they were thinking. They knew they probably couldn't beat the US in a sustained war so they wanted to take their Navy out completely. Had the Aircraft carriers been at Pearl Harbour they may have been successful too.

'Zactly ! It's not complicated.

6 months later they tried to finish the job at Midway but the US won. Some would say by luck because dive bombers were able to attack Japanese Carriers while they were switching ordinance so the bombs completely sank 3 of the 4 of the Carriers in less than an hour.

Shame on the "murderous" US. Navy !

[Lenny_Bruce]

Pearl Harbour was an actual attack. Israel attacking Syria in this scenario would actually be the equivalent of the Japanese attacking Pearl Harbour.

Edited May 7, 2013 by Lenny_Bruce

[Boges]

Pearl Harbour was an actual attack. Israel attacking Syria in this scenario would actually be the equivalent of the Japanese attacking Pearl Harbour.

If you want to compare any attack to Pearl Harbour, I suppose, any pre-emptive attack can be characterized that way.

I don't think anyone can justifiably compare Japan's imperialistic ambitions in 1941 to Israel's treatment of Palestinians in 2013.

[bush_cheney2004]

Agreed...it's hard to launch 10,000 Katyusha rockets from Hawaii to Japan.

[Lenny_Bruce]

You guys started the comparisons with Pearl Harbour. Don't complain if not every analogy can be based on December 7th 1941.

But now that you mention it Israel's attempt to dominate the Middle East is similar to Japan's attempt to dominate East Asia.

[Boges]

You guys started the comparisons with Pearl Harbour. Don't complain if not every analogy can be based on December 7th 1941.

But now that you mention it Israel's attempt to dominate the Middle East is similar to Japan's attempt to dominate East Asia.

No it's not. It it were, they'd have stayed in the Sinai and have invaded Syria, Jordan and Iran by now. And Israel is hoping to maintain the peace treaty with Egypt. If they had imperialistic ambitions, they'd go Operation Barbarossa on Egypt.

I was simply saying that Pearl Harbour was, in fact, a pre-emptive strike.

Edited May 7, 2013 by Boges

[Lenny_Bruce]

Uh Hello Israel already did the Sinai gig, and has attacked all of those except Iran overtly.

Israel still holds Syrian territory ie. the Golan Heights, and Palestine was formerly a part of Jordan. They were finally ejected from the Sinai by Sedat.

Edited May 7, 2013 by Lenny_Bruce

[Boges]

Uh Hello Israel already did the Sinai gig, and has attacked all of those except Iran overtly.

Attack is different than invade and occupy. They did occupy the Golan Heights, but they're using it as a sort of DMZ between them and Syria.

Edited May 7, 2013 by Boges

[roy baty]

Pearl Harbour was an actual attack. Israel attacking Syria in this scenario would actually be the equivalent of the Japanese attacking Pearl Harbour.

Now THAT is actual Twilight Zone episode material for ya! You spoke of me and Bush/Cheney being ignorant and now you post this drivel? The Japanese attacked to try and take the US out as a threat to interfere with their imperialistic conquest to occupy Southeast Asia. Israel has no imperialistic conquest in the works to take over Syria or any other nation in the middle east. To think that they do is again, more delusion from your camp.

Again, I ask you to tell us all your extensive personal first hand experience in Israel that makes you so much more informed than the rest of us ignorant Neocons of how things operate in the Middle East with Israel being the real problem.

[Lenny_Bruce]

Boges see above, Israel has attacked invaded, and occupied parts of all those countries with the exception of Iran (really only, because its out of reach).

[Boges]

Boges see above, Israel has attacked invaded, and occupied parts of all those countries with the exception of Iran (really only, because its out of reach).

Permanently?

They didn't take over Lebanon in 2006 did they?

[Lenny_Bruce]

Again, I ask you to tell us all your extensive personal first hand experience in Israel that makes you so much more informed than the rest of us ignorant Neocons of how things operate in the Middle East with Israel being the real problem.

I've traveled through about most of the Middle East including most of Israel and Palestine (the West Bank, not Gaza). Its totally nuts. Its worse than apartheid there. Israel treats the Palestinians like dirt,and makes their lives a living hell. It attacks their neighbours constantly, and on a whim.

Edited May 7, 2013 by Lenny_Bruce

[Lenny_Bruce]

Boges see above, Israel has attacked invaded, and occupied parts of all those countries with the exception of Iran (really only, because its out of reach).

Permanently?

They didn't take over Lebanon in 2006 did they?

They don't have the ability, but neither as it turned out did Japan. Israel is much more pragmatic and slow moving with their expansion. They've held onto the Golan Heights, the West Bank, and Gaza for decades, but they were unable to hold the Sinai.

Israel may be slowly expanding imperialists, but they are pragmatic at doing so, and so far haven't screwed up totally like the Imperial Japanese.

It also helps when their biggest backer is America as opposed to their opponent being America.

Edited May 7, 2013 by Lenny_Bruce

[Boges]

They don't have the ability, but neither as it turned out did Japan. Israel is much more pragmatic and slow moving with their expansion. They've held onto the Golan Heights, the West Bank, and Gaza for decades, but they were unable to hold the Sinai.

Israel may be slowly expanding imperialists, but they are pragmatic at doing so, and so far haven't screwed up totally like the Imperial Japanese.

It also helps when their biggest backer is America as opposed to their opponent being America.

Interesting theory, but they didn't withdraw from the Sinai because they couldn't. They withdrew because of a peace treaty.

I think I could get with your theory if they occupied parts of Lebanon in the conflict in 2006 but they completely withdrew.

I have no problem labelling Israel as a US puppet state. But without America's backing, I don't believe there's anyway the Jewish state could survive.

[Lenny_Bruce]

Permanently?

"They didn't take over Lebanon in 2006 did they?"

Lebanon was not included in the list of countries that was mentioned, being Syria, Jordan, Iran and Egypt.

[Boges]

Permanently?

"They didn't take over Lebanon in 2006 did they?"

Lebanon was not included in the list of countries that was mentioned, being Syria, Jordan, Iran and Egypt.

Ok, well my bad.

They invaded those other countries in response to the 6-day war. Can't really blame them for responding in that manor can you?