Will the Boston Bombing Help the XL Pipeline?

[Keepitsimple]

This thought came to me as I watched the cowardly events of the Boston Marathon bombing. We don't yet know WHO orchestrated the attack but one thing is sure - most Americans will automatically cast suspicion on Muslim fanatics - and the Middle East. One of the supporting themes of the XL Pipeline is energy security - getting energy from countiries that you can trust and depend on - like Canada. With terrorism raising its ugly head once more, it would appear that argument has a very solid foothold.

[Canuckistani]

Interesting idea - if it does turn out to be Muslim terror.

[guyser]

...and if it turns out to be a Canadian citizen , a la Rezza ...what then?

[Signals.Cpl]

...and if it turns out to be a Canadian citizen , a la Rezza ...what then?

Goodbye to our economy?

[Guest American Woman]

I don't think it's going to have any effect at all on whether or not the XL Pipeline goes forward.

Edited to add: If the WTC attacks didn't already put people in that frame of mind, I doubt if this will.

Edited April 17, 2013 by American Woman

[Argus]

...and if it turns out to be a Canadian citizen , a la Rezza ...what then?

It will turn out to be a local young Muslim or two, much like the clowns in Toronto, hepped up on jihadist videos and yearning for virgins.

Foreigners would target New York or Washington, and right wing anti government loons would target government institutions, not ordinary citizens.

[guyser]

It will turn out to be

I doubt anyone so far could predict who it was, what fight they have, what reason anyone could have.

[Guest Derek L]

I doubt anyone so far could predict who it was, what fight they have, what reason anyone could have.

Agreed......

[Argus]

I doubt anyone so far could predict who it was, what fight they have, what reason anyone could have.

And yet, I've just done so...

That's not to say my prediction will necessary come true, but the odds would suggest it will.

Edited April 17, 2013 by Argus

[scribblet]

I don't think most people are casting suspicion on Muslims, from my reading on other forums most people think it's domestic terrorism. This is too small for muslim fanatics.

[PIK]

The greenies

...and if it turns out to be a Canadian citizen , a la Rezza ...what then?

I can hear the greenies now, the terrorists in canada will be sending bombs thru the pipeline to the states.

[eyeball]

I don't think most people are casting suspicion on Muslims, from my reading on other forums most people think it's domestic terrorism. This is too small for muslim fanatics.

The timing of Patriot Day suggests a homegrown call to arms against an imperial oppressor but I can see how a Muslim with a sense of irony might also choose that day.

In either case I don't know if religious fanaticism is the real root cause, I think that's more a part of the response to something deeper - a dissonance be it moral or cognitive that pierces their mind - like tinnitus of the psyche that only gets worse and never goes away.

[hitops]

I think we're definitely onto something here:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/internet-comes-up-with-85-million-leads-on-potenti,32095/

[Guest American Woman]

I think we're definitely onto something here:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/internet-comes-up-with-85-million-leads-on-potenti,32095/

The Onion is satire; not sure if you realize that.

[hitops]

The Onion is satire; not sure if you realize that.

WWF is fake, you know that right?

Look at me, I'm so clever.

Edited April 18, 2013 by hitops

[Argus]

I don't think most people are casting suspicion on Muslims, from my reading on other forums most people think it's domestic terrorism. This is too small for muslim fanatics.

Too small? It might be too small for foreign terrorist groups, but certainly not for some homegrown jihadist idiot building bombs in his basement with directions off the internet. Look at that moron who tried to set off a bomb in Times Square last year.

Domestic terrorists would have set off a bomb at the courthouse or the federal building or the police station or something like that, not in a crowd of joggers.

[Sleipnir]

When seeing the title of this post, I thought it was going to be about the possibility of terrorists targeting pipelines to cause social, environmental and economic disruption.

[August1991]

I don't think it's going to have any effect at all on whether or not the XL Pipeline goes forward.

Edited to add: If the WTC attacks didn't already put people in that frame of mind, I doubt if this will.

This is another "foreign terrorist event" on American soil. Americans are tired of this. "No truck or trade... " Canada is a reliable, secure source of energy.

I think that KISS has a good point.

[August1991]

Too small? It might be too small for foreign terrorist groups, but certainly not for some homegrown jihadist idiot building bombs in his basement with directions off the internet. Look at that moron who tried to set off a bomb in Times Square last year.

Domestic terrorists would have set off a bomb at the courthouse or the federal building or the police station or something like that, not in a crowd of joggers.

Argus, I think the same. The key question is whether these two brothers worked alone or had outside support. I suspect that forensic study of the explosives used will indicate whether this attack had foreign support.

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When Israel was confronted with suicide bombers inside its borders, it first tried bulldozing the homes of the suicide bombers. (The logic is that suicide bombers may wish to die, or may even be paid to die, but they would think twice if their family lost everything.)

Ultimately, Israel resorted to building a wall. I fear that we in the West may have to do something similar.

Oh my, how history repeats itself.

[Guest American Woman]

This is another "foreign terrorist event" on American soil. Americans are tired of this. "No truck or trade... " Canada is a reliable, secure source of energy.

I think that KISS has a good point.

Again, I don't think anyone who wasn't scared off by the 9/11 attacks will look at this and suddenly conclude that 'we don't want their oil;' and the suspects were born in Russia - don't know how much oil we get from Russia.

Environmentalists aren't to be scared off by such things anyway, and I doubt Obama will base his decision on this attack.

[August1991]

Again, I don't think anyone who wasn't scared off by the 9/11 attacks will look at this and suddenly conclude that 'we don't want their oil;' and the suspects were born in Russia - don't know how much oil we get from Russia.

Environmentalists aren't to be scared off by such things anyway, and I doubt Obama will base his decision on this attack.

In the 19th century, terrorists attacked Heads of State, or their family. Queen Victoria survived about 8 attempts on her life. Of the 4 assassinated US presidents, 3 were killed in the 19th century. Russia's Alexander II was assassinated in 1881.

In the 20th century and early 21st century, terrorists ignored leaders and sought to attack ordinary people. (We now live in a democratic age.)

AW, I fear that we are now entering the era of popular terror.

Edited April 20, 2013 by August1991

[eyeball]

That's probably what rats in a cage say once they start cracking under the pressure.

In the case of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev I can't help but wonder how much of his motivation will resemble that which is more evident in other mass killings in recent years by young people?

I wonder how the aforementioned rats would explain the increasingly aberrant behaviour of their descendants? Probably some malevolent agency outside their understanding that's tormenting and screwing with them.

Edited April 20, 2013 by eyeball

[August1991]

That's probably what rats in a cage say once they start cracking under the pressure.

Crack? Not all rats become deviants, only some become criminals, crooks, thieves or terrorists. Edited April 20, 2013 by August1991

[eyeball]

Some become politicians.

[Guest American Woman]

In the 19th century, terrorists attacked Heads of State, or their family. Queen Victoria survived about 8 attempts on her life. Of the 4 assassinated US presidents, 3 were killed in the 19th century. Russia's Alexander II was assassinated in 1881.

In the 20th century and early 21st century, terrorists ignored leaders and sought to attack ordinary people. (We now live in a democratic age.)

AW, I fear that we are now entering the era of popular terror.

I think history shows that there have always been such acts of "terror;" but now we define them as such. Innocent people have always been targets of one group/ideology or another throughout time.

Perhaps less leaders have been killed recently than in the past, but attempts have still been made - and I would say that generally speaking, they also have better security these days, making citizens much easier targets.