Heading to ward a cashless society

[RNG]

The gov't doesn't have a say in pricing or how a business conducts the rounding off. They only suggested guidelines. It is more likely that the dollar store listened to the cheapskate old ladies' complaints and changed policy.

The BC government definitely implied that all stores had to follow the guidelines in a story published in the Vancouver Sun. Mind you, they have lied to me before. Googling it now, I see you are right.

Edit: Or the Sun is continuing their anti-Liberal crusade with a little misdirection.

Edited March 21, 2013 by RNG

[The_Squid]

The BC government definitely implied that all stores had to follow the guidelines in a story published in the Vancouver Sun. Mind you, they have lied to me before. Googling it now, I see you are right.

The BC gov't has even less to do with it since they are not the ones getting rid of the penny.

Edit: Or the Sun is continuing their anti-Liberal crusade with a little misdirection.

Somehow I doubt it. There is enough actual Liberal/Christy Clark corruption and stupidity to report on without needing to make anything up.

[Pliny]

I dread the upcoming election in BC. We have a choice between NDP and NDP light.

[eyeball]

Yes but, they'll legalize pot thereby embracing one of Libertarianism's most fundamental principles, getting the state off the individual's back.

What is there to dread? Is there any other party that's ruled Canada out there that's even come close to representing such a core tenet of your's?

[Bonam]

Yes but, they'll legalize pot thereby embracing one of Libertarianism's most fundamental principles, getting the state off the individual's back.

There's a lot of other ways in which the state ought to get off the individual's back. And pot legalization, while I'm not against it, is pretty far down on that list.

[Pliny]

Yes but, they'll legalize pot thereby embracing one of Libertarianism's most fundamental principles, getting the state off the individual's back.

What is there to dread? Is there any other party that's ruled Canada out there that's even come close to representing such a core tenet of your's?

They won't legalize it. They will instead become the sole monopoly dealer - with distributors, regulators and tax collectors in abundance. Hardly Libertarian.

I believe in the legalization of marijuana and other drugs but I do not advocate their use.

[eyeball]

No doubt they'll do their level best to cock up whatever they do, but that's beside the point.

And at the end of the day even you subscribe to and embrace monopolies and tax collectors - for armies and police for example, the very things the State usually uses to get on people's backs. Hardly libertarian at all.

You advocate but I doubt you really truly believe down deep.

[Pliny]

No doubt they'll do their level best to cock up whatever they do, but that's beside the point.

And at the end of the day even you subscribe to and embrace monopolies and tax collectors - for armies and police for example, the very things the State usually uses to get on people's backs. Hardly libertarian at all.

You advocate but I doubt you really truly believe down deep.

I'm a minarchist libertarian so I do believe in some government. Someone needs to deal with those that initiate force against others. As social engineers, those in government have proven to be huge failures, as you well know, thus they need to be limited.

All I want is a place to go if it gets oppressive and I need to get out. The Mayor of Vancouver is a total eco-socialist so I left. I may be leaving BC soon.

But you know if the people will vote for oppression then they are the ones that are hard to live with. It is difficult today to express an opinion because it might offend someone. I'm not putting on a politically correct mask so I can get along. I don't wear a pink shirt on pink shirt day, I don't have a yellow (or any color) ribbon on my vehicle, I don't contribute to charities for causes I don't believe in or are, in my estimation, misguided. When the government starts to tell you how to behave properly and you can't determine that for yourself then you're most certainly approaching a crossroads, from being human to becoming an automaton. Rather than treating people equally under the law government has taken on the task of making everyone equal. This expunges the necessity for judgement in the application of the law and it becomes entirely force bereft of reason - which I assume from the history of your posts you are well aware.

[bleeding heart]

I very rarely use cash. Mostly use it when I go out with friends splitting a bill or for Tim Hortons.

I find it weird seeing people use cash to buy groceries or gas.

I use cash a lot.

For me, it's practical for budgeting purposes. If I use debit (or credit), I later shuffle some paper (figuratively) to figure out what I've spent, and how much more I am able to spend.

With cash, that "shuffling," the budgeting, is already done, in the first instance...I always know exactly how much money I have, and how much I have spent.

Edited August 4, 2013 by bleeding heart

[Icebound]

Sure, but do you really want the CRA to start scrutinizing every single transaction you make from your Chequing account?

Only rich people should be subjected to this because they can afford it? Seems like harassment no matter what.

It will probably happen sooner or later. Financial Transaction Taxation is more equitable than Income taxation and may well replace it in time.... it is just difficult to implement, but evolving technologies will make it easier. And it does not have to be cashless to implement... you can still tax a withdrawal into cash, or a deposit from cash.

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[ReeferMadness]

Most economists say that sales taxes are a more efficient way to collect taxes than income taxes.

[Boges]

It will probably happen sooner or later. Financial Transaction Taxation is more equitable than Income taxation and may well replace it in time.... it is just difficult to implement, but evolving technologies will make it easier. And it does not have to be cashless to implement... you can still tax a withdrawal into cash, or a deposit from cash.

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I'm sure banks will fight that to the death because if people are taxing every deposit then people will swiftly move to just asking for cash upfront and holding it under their mattress. Also this would have to completely replace income taxes. And what about when people diversify how they deposit their money. Also how can they enforce people depositing money through proxy accounts?

[ReeferMadness]

I must be ahead of my time. It seems like I've always been cashless.