Mass shooting

[Wilber]

Fourth, the idea of putting armed police in schools and god knows where else just so juveniles and paranoids can enjoy their arsenals of assault weapons strikes me as nuts.

That's the way I see it to. Kinda makes you wonder who the real nut jobs are.

[bush_cheney2004]

If it's good enough for Toronto.....

Armed police officers will soon be patrolling 27 Toronto high schools.

It's part of what the Toronto District School Board calls a school resource officer initiative and is a result of last year's Falconer report on school violence. Following its release, the board said it would draft a plan to increase safety in schools.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2008/09/10/tdsb-police.html

[bush_cheney2004]

Some things are not complicated:

NEWTOWN, Conn. – The gunman who slaughtered 20 children and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school may have snapped because his mother was planning to commit him to a psychiatric facility, according to a lifelong resident of the area who was familiar with the killer’s family and several of the victims’ families.

[Shady]

If it's good enough for Toronto.....

Armed police officers will soon be patrolling 27 Toronto high schools.

It's part of what the Toronto District School Board calls a school resource officer initiative and is a result of last year's Falconer report on school violence. Following its release, the board said it would draft a plan to increase safety in schools.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2008/09/10/tdsb-police.html

Oh snap!

[Wilber]

Yes, inner city high schools

Some things are not complicated:

NEWTOWN, Conn. – The gunman who slaughtered 20 children and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school may have snapped because his mother was planning to commit him to a psychiatric facility, according to a lifelong resident of the area who was familiar with the killer’s family and several of the victims’ families.

So she left a house full of guns lying around. Legaly obtained of course. Obviously he was a lot smarter than she was.

[Wilber]

Oh snap!

You do know the difference between an inner city high school and a country elementary school?

[bush_cheney2004]

Yes, inner city high schools

Clever code word...NOT !

So she left a house full of guns lying around. Legaly obtained of course. Obviously he was a lot smarter than she was.

Nice...this (now dead) woman that you insult lived a tormented life, and did the best she could. He wasn't so smart.

[bush_cheney2004]

You do know the difference between an inner city high school and a country elementary school?

No, but apparently it is a BIG DIFFERENCE to you.

[Shady]

No, but apparently it is a BIG DIFFERENCE to you.

Yep. Just another forum bigot. What's funny is that they don't even recognize their prejudices.

Edited December 19, 2012 by Shady

[BC_chick]

Some things are not complicated:

NEWTOWN, Conn. – The gunman who slaughtered 20 children and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school may have snapped because his mother was planning to commit him to a psychiatric facility, according to a lifelong resident of the area who was familiar with the killer’s family and several of the victims’ families.

How exactly does this help your argument? As Wilber said, she left her mentally-disturbed son in a house full of guns and he used them to kill her and 26 other people.

If this is supposed to make a case for 'responsible' gun-ownership, it's an utter failure.

[bush_cheney2004]

How exactly does this help your argument? As Wilber said, she left her mentally-disturbed son in a house full of guns and he used them to kill her and 26 other people.

This story is not about his dead mother. Cops told her they couldn't do anything until he acted out. We don't know what measures she took to safeguard her guns.

If this is supposed to make a case for 'responsible' gun-ownership, it's an utter failure.

The guns were legally purchased and registered, just like killer guns in Canada.

[BC_chick]

We don't know what measures she took to safeguard her guns.

Judging by the body-count... nowhere near enough.

[Guest Derek L]

Some things are not complicated:

NEWTOWN, Conn. – The gunman who slaughtered 20 children and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school may have snapped because his mother was planning to commit him to a psychiatric facility, according to a lifelong resident of the area who was familiar with the killer’s family and several of the victims’ families.

And this

"Adam Lanza believed she cared more for the children than she did for him, and the reason he probably thought this [was the fact that] she was petitioning for conservatorship and wanted to have him committed," Flashman said. "I could understand how he might perceive that—that his mom loved him less than she loved the kids, loved the school. But she did love him. But he was a troubled kid and she probably just couldn’t take care of him by herself anymore."

I’m still forced to question why she would keep the guns in the house…………..

[bush_cheney2004]

I’m still forced to question why she would keep the guns in the house…………..

Can't answer that yet...we don't know.

[Wilber]

This story is not about his dead mother. Cops told her they couldn't do anything until he acted out. We don't know what measures she took to safeguard her guns.

She could have made sure he didn't have access to her guns, or got rid of the damn things.

The guns were legally purchased and registered, just like killer guns in Canada.

You say it like that makes it OK.

[Guest Derek L]

And coming this Friday:

http://home.nra.org/pdf/StatementAdvisory.pdf

The National Rifle Association of America is made up of four million moms and dads,

sons and daughters – and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the

horrific and senseless murders in Newtown.

Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common decency, we have given time

for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting.

The NRA is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never

happens again.

[cybercoma]

kudos to the nra

[bush_cheney2004]

She could have made sure he didn't have access to her guns, or got rid of the damn things.

She could have done a lot of things....I wasn't there...and neither were you.

You say it like that makes it OK.

Did you blame the victims in those shootings too ?

[Wilber]

She could have done a lot of things....I wasn't there...and neither were you.

Did you blame the victims in those shootings too ?

Bottom line BC. If she hadn't had to have her guns, 28 people would still be alive today. So yes, I do blame her and the kind of mentality people like you display. Got to be honest and say the way you worship your guns like some kind of Deity does get my gag reflex going.

[Wilber]

And coming this Friday:

http://home.nra.org/...entAdvisory.pdf

I hope so but call me skeptical.

[Guest Derek L]

I hope so but call me skeptical.

If I wasn’t a member, I’d bet you there will be calls for further mental health screening and safe storage.

[bush_cheney2004]

Bottom line BC. If she hadn't had to have her guns, 28 people would still be alive today. So yes, I do blame her and the kind of mentality people like you display. Got to be honest and say the way you worship your guns like some kind of Deity does get my gag reflex going.

I don't know why you're blaming me....if it makes you feel better go right ahead. He could have gotten guns elsewhere as well. You think you have it all figured out based on media that has already been proven wrong. Simple minded reductionist thinking like yours would mean no guns for anybody. You don't get to make that call...not even in Canada.

I do not worship guns, as I graduated to far more powerful toys years ago.

Edited December 19, 2012 by bush_cheney2004

[DogOnPorch]

I do not worship guns, as I graduated to far more powerful toys years ago.

I have become death. Destroyer of worlds.

---Gita

[Bonam]

Bottom line BC. If she hadn't had to have her guns, 28 people would still be alive today. So yes, I do blame her and the kind of mentality people like you display.

People seem to blame everything and everyone... except the one guy that actually shot up those kids.

It's the guns! It's the mom! It's the cruel heartless society that doesn't make social outcasts feel welcome! It's the lack of money spent on treatment of mental illness! I'll stick with my theory... it's Adam Lanza.

[dre]

People seem to blame everything and everyone... except the one guy that actually shot up those kids.

It's the guns! It's the mom! It's the cruel heartless society that doesn't make social outcasts feel welcome! It's the lack of money spent on treatment of mental illness! I'll stick with my theory... it's Adam Lanza.

I think you just misunderstand the arguments of others.