Iran uncovers story of the decade

[GostHacked]

I suggest watching a documentary called Unrepentant: Kevin Annett and Canada's (Native Peoples) Genocide. Gives a nice view to how aboriginals were treated during the last century in Canada. With this alone, it would not surprise me if these abductions are really happening.

[Hudson Jones]

I love how the nations that used children for mine removal is spreading BS like this only a short time after Canada removed its diplomatic mission from Iran...

Iran used children for mine removal? I tried finding this info, but couldn't. Could you post a link?

[Signals.Cpl]

What is it? The federal government 100% or less than 100% plus community funding? Your post here doesn't make any sense and you clearly don't know what money First Nations communities have and where they get it from.

They get it from the federal government while the rest of us have to ay for our own upkeep at least on one level of government.

Again, I'm not going to sit here and educate you about the situation, in order to have a discussion with you.

Not with that attitude...

Go look these things up for yourself. First Nations communities do raise their own money in addition to federal funding.

Doubt that it is any significant sum of money to cover even the most basic of infrastructure and services.

[Signals.Cpl]

Iran used children for mine removal? I tried finding this info, but couldn't. Could you post a link?

According to one journalist, most recruits had between one and three months of military training before being sent to the front, but some had no training at all.⁹²¹ Boys as young as nine were reportedly used in human wave attacks and to serve as mine sweepers in the war with Iraq.⁹²²Many child soldiers were captured by the Iraqis and transferred to a special Prisoner of War camp for children.⁹²³ Some 300, most believed to be 15 or younger were held by Iraq in a special, separated compound at Al-Ramadi, about 60 miles west of Baghdad, where they were exploited by the Iraqi authorities for propaganda purposes.⁹²⁴

http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/country,,CSCOAL,,IRN,,498805f02d,0.html

http://www.matthiaskuentzel.de/contents/ahmadinejads-demons

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Iraq_War#Human_wave (Human wave portion)

[TimG]

it is their responsibility to ensure that the First Nations are receiving the same level of service as the rest of Canadians.

Like I said, non-native communities are always partially self-funding through local taxes and capital expenditures by private individuals. The federal government has no obligation to make up this gap which means native communities that have no tax base and no private capital will never have the same level of services as a non-native community.

More importantly, you cannot take an average for all Canadians that includes large cities and compare it to the funding given to reserves. The only legitimate comparison is between the external government funding provided to communities with a size similar to the native reserves. If you don't have those numbers you cannot make any claims about whether native communities are underfunded relative to non-native communities.

Edited December 13, 2012 by TimG

[DogOnPorch]

http://www.unhcr.org...8805f02d,0.html

http://www.matthiask...dinejads-demons

http://en.wikipedia....an_wave (Human wave portion)

The kids were given plastic 'keys to heaven' and then sent on their way.

[CPCFTW]

If you want to make a comparison, then you have to look at all government spending (local, provincial, and federal) per Canadian. Since First Nations fall entirely under the federal government, it is their responsibility to ensure that the First Nations are receiving the same level of service as the rest of Canadians. It was the agreement that they made with the First Nations.

No it isn't. The FN pay no taxes so it is not the taxpayer's responsibility to ensure they get the same level of services as other taxpayers.

The agreement with FN is to allow the FN to operate autonomously from the govt on their reserves. If the FN want to opt out of the Canadian society, they should have no claim to Canadian social services (for which they don't pay).

Now if FN want to cede their land to Canada and start paying taxes, then I would say spend whatever it takes to get them 1st world standard living conditions and to create jobs in their communities. Unfortunately the FN want to live off the land and play victim because hunting moose won't pay the heating/electricity bills and neither will the government.

[Sleipnir]

http://news.national...ren-for-profit/

Police in Alberta are said to be abducting native children for sale.

Before you judge try to read the statements first as if it was a CBC news story.

Canada’s aboriginal advocates dismiss the story as pure fiction.

“I have never heard of that — never heard of that,” said Cindy Blackstock, an associate professor at the University of Alberta and executive director of the First Nations Child and Family Caring Society of Canada.

With an uncharacteristic laugh, a spokeswoman with Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development similarly denied the Iranian charges.

Edited December 13, 2012 by Sleipnir

[Wilber]

I always look to 9/11 Truthers and Holocaust deniers for my news.

[westguy]

cyner - does their open book poicy include the costs of business class trips to Vegas? I highly doubt you will find that in their annual report. I also recall that about 5-7 yrs ago, a govt. audit found that $500m was unaccounted for - of couse the FN's said it was motivated by racism.

[login]

No it isn't. The FN pay no taxes so it is not the taxpayer's responsibility to ensure they get the same level of services as other taxpayers.

The agreement with FN is to allow the FN to operate autonomously from the govt on their reserves. If the FN want to opt out of the Canadian society, they should have no claim to Canadian social services (for which they don't pay).

Now if FN want to cede their land to Canada and start paying taxes, then I would say spend whatever it takes to get them 1st world standard living conditions and to create jobs in their communities. Unfortunately the FN want to live off the land and play victim because hunting moose won't pay the heating/electricity bills and neither will the government.

The first nations gave the land, how much tax revenue do their royalties bring in. You ignorant SOB

Edited December 13, 2012 by login

[cybercoma]

Like I said, non-native communities are always partially self-funding through local taxes and capital expenditures by private individuals. The federal government has no obligation to make up this gap which means native communities that have no tax base and no private capital will never have the same level of services as a non-native community.

More importantly, you cannot take an average for all Canadians that includes large cities and compare it to the funding given to reserves. The only legitimate comparison is between the external government funding provided to communities with a size similar to the native reserves. If you don't have those numbers you cannot make any claims about whether native communities are underfunded relative to non-native communities.

You continue to ignore the fact that Reserves are not just like every other rural community. They are full nations unto themselves. Their funding needs to be equivalent to all levels of government in other communities, not just the municipal funds.

[TimG]

Their funding needs to be equivalent to all levels of government in other communities, not just the municipal funds.

Nothing I said disputes that point. But that does not change my point: comparisons must be done between reserves and native communities of similar size (including money spent providing schools). Adding up all of the funds spent by the government and dividing it by the population is not a number that can be compared to funding given to reserves. Edited December 13, 2012 by TimG

[CPCFTW]

The first nations gave the land, how much tax revenue do their royalties bring in. You ignorant SOB

"Gave" the land?

You poor ignorant SOB..

[cybercoma]

"Gave" the land?

You poor ignorant SOB..

They negotiated its use and now the government is not living up to its end of their responsibilities, breaking the agreement.

[jacee]

How do we know that you don't beat children? We have no way of knowing!

Interesting that you defend child traffickers by diverting to personal attack ... kina makes ya go hmmmmm ... Edited December 14, 2012 by jacee

[Rocky Road]

Selfreliance.

[Rocky Road]

Iran is just plain crazy