PIK Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 OTTAWA - Postal union members in Brazil for a political conference had the chance to rub elbows this week with supporters of a listed terror group and its leader. The Canadian Union of Postal Workers (CUPW) were in Porto Alegre for the World Social Forum's "Free Palestine" conference, which wrapped up Saturday. There, the five-person delegation had the option of attending a session devoted to calling for the release of Ahmad Saadat from an Israeli jail. Saadat was sentenced in 2008 to 30 years behind bars for heading the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP). Israel suspects he helped orchestrate the 2001 assassination of Israeli tourism minister Rehavam Zeevi by the PFLP - a militant group with a history of violence. In 2003, Public Safety Canada listed the PFLP as a group associated with terrorism for its history of hijacking planes and the use of suicide bombers and car bombings. http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2012/12/20121202-090428.html Do we not have any control over these union people, when does this BS end? Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Guest Peeves Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 With repeal of the Rand formula Quote
Merlin Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 Disgusting. no other words for it, just disgusting. These people should be ashamed of themselves. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 It's not as cut and dried as it appears here. According to the Amnesty International page, this person wasn't given due process and was tried by a military court. I'm sure it looks better on the pages of the Sun than it does on this board, though. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Guest Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 And of all the injustice in the world, this is the one the CUPW spends its member dues on going to take closer look at. In Brazil no less. I'm surprised they didn't wait for the World Cup. Quote
Bonam Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 I don't see how this has any relationship to Canadian postal workers, their wages, working conditions, benefits, contracts, etc. This is a waste of union resources and dues, dues that are compulsorily collected from all members of CUPW whether they agree with these political causes or not. Unions should not squander their member's money on such things, it is completely inappropriate. Quote
Topaz Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 If the dues are going to were the members don't want them to go, then why don't THEY complain? I hear Tory MP Pierre , talk about this against the NDP but one never hear from the majority of union members, why? Must not bother them. Quote
Fletch 27 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 If the dues are going to were the members don't want them to go, then why don't THEY complain? I hear Tory MP Pierre , talk about this against the NDP but one never hear from the majority of union members, why? Must not bother them. Brainwashed and a tad bit of Pavlovs dog syndrome.... Quote
Guest Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 Plus, you don't want to upset people who can have an effect on your job. Quote
PIK Posted December 3, 2012 Author Report Posted December 3, 2012 It's not as cut and dried as it appears here. According to the Amnesty International page, this person wasn't given due process and was tried by a military court. I'm sure it looks better on the pages of the Sun than it does on this board, though. What is cut and dried is what CUPW is up to, and that is to embarress this country at every chance. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Michael Hardner Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 What is cut and dried is what CUPW is up to, and that is to embarress this country at every chance. Their objective is to embarrass the country ? What the advantage in doing that ? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Fletch 27 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 It's not as cut and dried as it appears here. According to the Amnesty International page, this person wasn't given due process and was tried by a military court. I'm sure it looks better on the pages of the Sun than it does on this board, though. Sure seems cut and dried Quote
PIK Posted December 3, 2012 Author Report Posted December 3, 2012 Their objective is to embarrass the country ? What the advantage in doing that ? Michael I should have said the harper goverment because I doubt this embarreses liberals or the NDP. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
cybercoma Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 Harper does a good enough job embarrassing himself with this cabinet. He certainly doesn't need any help. Quote
Fletch 27 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 Harper does a good enough job embarrassing himself with this cabinet. He certainly doesn't need any help. CITE! Quote
gunrutz Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 Harper does a good enough job embarrassing himself with this cabinet. He certainly doesn't need any help. The number of off topic oblique comments you make is staggering, why don't you tell us what you think about the topic, im guessing your methods are just fine according to the local rule book, personally i thnk cupw actions are disgusting, but unions while useful, are stuffed to the brim with far left nonsense. Quote
login Posted December 3, 2012 Report Posted December 3, 2012 (edited) OTTAWA - Postal union members in Brazil for a political conference had the chance to rub elbows this week with supporters of a listed terror group and its leader. The Canadian Union of Postal Workers (CUPW) were in Porto Alegre for the World Social Forum's "Free Palestine" conference, which wrapped up Saturday. There, the five-person delegation had the option of attending a session devoted to calling for the release of Ahmad Saadat from an Israeli jail. Saadat was sentenced in 2008 to 30 years behind bars for heading the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP). Israel suspects he helped orchestrate the 2001 assassination of Israeli tourism minister Rehavam Zeevi by the PFLP - a militant group with a history of violence. In 2003, Public Safety Canada listed the PFLP as a group associated with terrorism for its history of hijacking planes and the use of suicide bombers and car bombings. http://www.sunnewsne...202-090428.html Do we not have any control over these union people, when does this BS end? Yeah and Canada blew up lots of civllians to further its objectives. What is your point? Israel is still assasinating its political foes. Freedom of association. You are so brainwashed into seeing terrorism as evil when it is clear that it is no different than collatoral damage enacted by Canada and is allys in their constant war and that is much less sacrificial to the person carrying out the act. Wake up and realize Israel has supported appartheid and a religious totalitarian government in Israel which is took over through terrorism and war, subjugating millions of arabs muslims under a constitituion that holds Jewish law as supreme. What don't you get? Israel doesn't even support equality. It is a Jewish supremicist state, like the Aryan nazi's only for Jews instead. It falls far short of Canada's human rights and civil liberties. Until Israel allows for basic freedoms and human rights... Freedom in so called terrorist organizations is directed toward a cause that does entail liberation from opression. The same is true of countries that have organizations that object to their puppet governments giving the USA rights to commit human rights crimes, murder and rape without legal repercussion. If you are going to criticize freedom, atleast know who the group restraining freedom stands for. If it doesn't meet our standards of civil liberties, perhaps not supporting anyone is a better position than supporting human rights abusers and religious fundamentalist states. Edited December 4, 2012 by login Quote
cybercoma Posted December 4, 2012 Report Posted December 4, 2012 The number of off topic oblique comments you make is staggering, why don't you tell us what you think about the topic, im guessing your methods are just fine according to the local rule book, personally i thnk cupw actions are disgusting, but unions while useful, are stuffed to the brim with far left nonsense. What's there to say about the topic? It's just like every Islam topic on this forum. It's not designed for conversation, but for a certain group of posters to crap all over unions, just as they crap all over Muslims in those other threads. There's nothing to discuss here. MH already pointed out that the issue is not as black and white as the OP made it. Regardless, the replies show that it's not even about the issue anyway. It's about whining about "far left nonsense" and bitching about unions, yet again. Quote
Guest Posted December 4, 2012 Report Posted December 4, 2012 I think the problem is, that any criticism of a union is seen as a right wing attack on a left wing institution, regardless of how well deserved the criticism is. It's the same with Islam, where any attack is perceived as racist or bigoted, even if it's a criticism of something like the blasphemy law, or the execution of women for adultery. Quote
westguy Posted December 4, 2012 Report Posted December 4, 2012 nothing could embarrass the Libs nor the NDP. Quote
cybercoma Posted December 4, 2012 Report Posted December 4, 2012 I think the problem is, that any criticism of a union is seen as a right wing attack on a left wing institution, regardless of how well deserved the criticism is. It's the same with Islam, where any attack is perceived as racist or bigoted, even if it's a criticism of something like the blasphemy law, or the execution of women for adultery. Criticizing the blasphemy law or executions of women for adultery is one thing, but that's not how threads go around here. It turns into a Muslim bashing fest, even though there are 1.6 Billion Muslims in the world. The rules of the forum say to play the ball. Criticizing executions of women for adultery or blasphemy laws is playing the ball, attacking Muslims for being Muslim is not. So it will go with this thread. People will bash unions for being unions without actually addressing any substantive issue. Quote
Fletch 27 Posted December 4, 2012 Report Posted December 4, 2012 Unions are abusive to the workers... Like when Coal mining companies created thier own currency and the workers had to use that currency for Groceries and staples in the Coal-Towns to feed the families...... Quote
cybercoma Posted December 4, 2012 Report Posted December 4, 2012 Unions are abusive to the workers... Like when Coal mining companies created thier own currency and the workers had to use that currency for Groceries and staples in the Coal-Towns to feed the families...... Completely laughable that you would bring coal mining in to make a point about abusive unions. The only reason coal miners stopped being abused was because of unions. Quote
Guest Posted December 4, 2012 Report Posted December 4, 2012 Criticizing the blasphemy law or executions of women for adultery is one thing, but that's not how threads go around here. It turns into a Muslim bashing fest, even though there are 1.6 Billion Muslims in the world. The rules of the forum say to play the ball. Criticizing executions of women for adultery or blasphemy laws is playing the ball, attacking Muslims for being Muslim is not. So it will go with this thread. People will bash unions for being unions without actually addressing any substantive issue. Could the same thing be said of Harper, Conservatives and Republicans? Quote
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