Iran's new adorable submarine...

[bush_cheney2004]

Iran has proudly announced their new Sina 7 submarine, sporting an unusual color for a warship. No matter how it performs, it sure is cute!

http://news.yahoo.co...-211724188.html

[Guest American Woman]

Iran has proudly announced their new Sina 7 submarine, sporting an unusual color for a warship.

At least it's not a yellow submarine....

[Guest Derek L]

Iran has proudly announced their new Sina 7 submarine, sporting an unusual color for a warship. No matter how it performs, it sure is cute!

http://news.yahoo.co...-211724188.html

Though a rather “unique” color it shouldn't mater, if done right, a submarine won’t be detected by sight

Joking aside though, having both hunted submarines for a stipend and flown several times over the waters these fellows will likely operate, the color does blend well with the littorals of the Gulf…..At the end of the day though, doesn’t make them less dead if required.

[Wilber]

That thing can fire anti ship missiles? Where do they put them, in the barge they tow behind it?

[Sleipnir]

Iran has proudly announced their new Sina 7 submarine, sporting an unusual color for a warship. No matter how it performs, it sure is cute!

Rather small isn't it?

[Guest Derek L]

That thing can fire anti ship missiles? Where do they put them, in the barge they tow behind it?

In the torpedo tubes………..two tubes, no reloads.

[DogOnPorch]

Rather small isn't it?

This will find 'em...or something similar will.

[Guest Derek L]

This will find 'em...or something similar will.

Not smart using a ship based system against a potentially suicidal sub crew……………If done right, it would be more reminiscent of this:

[DogOnPorch]

Ah yes....the irony of sinking in port. The five hour version was great...but you literally needed breaks.

[DogOnPorch]

As for the Hedgehog. It has been the curse of the submarine for quite some time. A proven killer in the hands of a trained DD crew. That one can pop a computer assisted pattern half a km from the ship. If they hear yah...yer dead.

[DogOnPorch]

Japanese two man sub that washed-up after Pearl Harbor.

[Boges]

Rather small isn't it?

That's what she said.

Does this mean Iran ISN'T a threat to world peace, because their navy is shit. I'll call middle of the road here. The US has an overkill Navy that's a relic of the Cold War. It seems any potential enemy has long ago abandoned a Navy as a realistic way to fight a battle. Of course I have no clue what I'm talking about so . . . yeah it's a cute Sub.

BTW where's the Deck Gun? Most U-Boats sank merchant ships with a tiny Deck Gun. At least have that.

[Guest Peeves]

Remember that for some death is a favorable end, a martyrdom. Whether you die on a camel or a plane or with a vest, jihad is the quest.

[Guest Derek L]

That's what she said.

Does this mean Iran ISN'T a threat to world peace, because their navy is shit. I'll call middle of the road here. The US has an overkill Navy that's a relic of the Cold War. It seems any potential enemy has long ago abandoned a Navy as a realistic way to fight a battle. Of course I have no clue what I'm talking about so . . . yeah it's a cute Sub.

BTW where's the Deck Gun? Most U-Boats sank merchant ships with a tiny Deck Gun. At least have that.

Not quite:

[Boges]

Isn't that Aircraft Carrier a Soviet hand me down?

10 Nimitz class Aircraft Carriers have been made.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimitz-class_aircraft_carrier

Edited December 3, 2012 by Boges

[DogOnPorch]

It's a jump carrier...not that fearsome. But...woot...there it is.

[Guest Derek L]

Isn't that Aircraft Carrier a Soviet hand me down?

10 Nimitz class Aircraft Carriers have been made.

http://en.wikipedia....ircraft_carrier

The Americans started with a converted coal carrier, operating biplanes with machine guns……..And the Royal Navy much the same……….twenty years later, the Americans were operating near 100 Fleet, light and escort carriers…………The Chinese intend to build more.

[Guest Derek L]

It's a jump carrier...not that fearsome. But...woot...there it is.

Remind the Japanese and South Koreans that……..

[DogOnPorch]

The Americans started with a converted coal carrier, operating biplanes with machine guns……..And the Royal Navy much the same……….twenty years later, the Americans were operating near 100 Fleet, light and escort carriers…………The Chinese intend to build more.

Indeed. But, they'll need steam catapult equipped fight decks before they are anything more that floating 'air superiority' platforms. In the role of an assault ship, there might be some real use. Taiwan...I'm looking at you.

[Guest Derek L]

Indeed. But, they'll need steam catapult equipped fight decks before they are anything more that floating 'air superiority' platforms. In the role of an assault ship, there might be some real use. Taiwan...I'm looking at you.

Not if they pirate EMALS…………Pardon the pun, but the Chinese just catapulted ahead of a whole lot of navies that have ingrained corporate knowledge of naval fixed wing aviation, and by fielding a Flanker at sea, they’ve just surpassed the Indians 60 year old carrier armed with a handful of Sea Harriers………Now the Indians will eventually get their overpriced Russian carrier , armed with a dozen or so Mig-29s, but the Chinese have already started practicing arrested landings………The Indians not so much………..

Also the shear size of the Chinese aircraft carrier when compared to the Indian’s former Kiev class carrier they‘ll be getting, will guarantee the Chinese the ability to start conducting truly cyclic carrier ops well also generating a much greater sortie rate…………….After the Americans and French, there’s then the Chinese.

[DogOnPorch]

The Red Chinese...impressive on parade. Not so impressive in battle.

[DogOnPorch]

Here's the Iranian machine...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwnoQo6RWtI

[Guest Derek L]

The Red Chinese...impressive on parade. Not so impressive in battle.

Perhaps, but the Chinese have demonstrated numerous times the ability to learn from others mistakes well looking "long view", as such affording them the ability to leap over technological dead ends………….And clearly putting an aircraft carrier finally to sea, well having plans to build numerous indigenous designs, demonstrates a willingness………..

You criticisms sound familiar to those within the USN & RN of the Japanese in the 1930s……….Granted one carrier doesn’t make a Chinese Kido Butai, but it’s a start…………The drastic increase in the naval forces amongst the Chinese and Indians is eerily similar to the early 1900s Dreadnought arms race between the United Kingdom and Germany………..

[DogOnPorch]

lol...I suppose I am. Where's that Washington Treaty?...let me read the fine print again.

[Boges]

Perhaps, but the Chinese have demonstrated numerous times the ability to learn from others mistakes well looking "long view", as such affording them the ability to leap over technological dead ends………….And clearly putting an aircraft carrier finally to sea, well having plans to build numerous indigenous designs, demonstrates a willingness………..

You criticisms sound familiar to those within the USN & RN of the Japanese in the 1930s……….Granted one carrier doesn’t make a Chinese Kido Butai, but it’s a start…………The drastic increase in the naval forces amongst the Chinese and Indians is eerily similar to the early 1900s Dreadnought arms race between the United Kingdom and Germany………..

Cept the Dreadnaughts were the top of the line Battleships at the time and these boats are second-rate by the standards set by the US and UK.