Rob Ford Turfed ?

[jacee]

Do you have any actual documentary support for the numbers above or are you just pulling them out of your ass fulled by the raging hate you feel for anyone conservative?

Do the math yourself.

Btw, the city of Toronto, the province, and the federal government all give millions to charities every year. In fact, in the case of the feds, its billions, if you include foreign aid.

All approved by Council.

Rob Ford uses taxpayer money to fund HIS HOBBY.

[Guest American Woman]

I think he will be re elected. Most reasonable people that elected him initially understand what he did was with good intentions for kids and that he personally gained nothing from the noble deed. His taking a stand, speaking to the motion, voting on the motion was wrong, but a picayune matter pursued by cowards over an insignificant amount and issue.

They should have dropped the issue and got on with the business of running the city. However a few cowardly left biased people took a minor infraction to it's nth degree for political purpose since it served no other.

Of course I don't know enough about the issue to judge, but he seems to be one of Canada's most controversial politicians. Think he'll ever be considered on the federal level?

Edited December 9, 2012 by American Woman

[Guest Peeves]

Of course I don't know enough about the issue to judge, but he seems to be one of Canada's most controversial politicians. Think he'll ever be considered on the federal level?

Not a chance. He doesn't have the smarts. He is a true believer in fiscal responsibility, some may say to a fault. However he's naive and a lose cannon. He an his bro make a good team. His bro is brainier, but still volatile.

He's honest and sincere, but no party would touch him for his quixotic tendencies. He is often his own worst enemy. Fortunately he does have some good people around him

Unfortunately he also has some knife carrying leftist former supporters of the socialist liar mayor Miller.

I can say this, there has never been a more concerned and dedicated mayor of Toronto or most anywhere else.

I rate him on par with Hazel McCallion is Canada's most popular mayor - for dedication, but certainly not for brains.

http://videosift.com...t-Running-Mayor

Edited December 10, 2012 by Peeves

[Guest Peeves]

Do the math yourself.

All approved by Council.

Rob Ford uses taxpayer money to fund HIS HOBBY.

Prove that. I think it's a false statement.

[Big Guy]

If Ford loses the appeal and is allowed to run in a by-election then the council should reappoint him to council as mayor and save the $9 million coast of the process. The judge maintained that if there were other options then it would have allowed the Mayor to stay on with a reprimand but the mandatory minimal sentence was to remove him from office. Let Ford stay on and the entertainment continue at city hall. Give him the full 4 years to dig a few more holes or clean up his act. He is only one vote, has stripped the position of much of its previous power and most of the members of the Executive Committee have abandoned him. Let council continue to run council.

I do find it ironic the “Ford Nation”, the far right wing faction which still firmly supports Ford is the same group that is decrying the restrictions of this one example of mandatory minimal sentencing. I wonder if they still support that right wing archaic concept of law for the rest of Canadians?

[jacee]

If Ford loses the appeal and is allowed to run in a by-election then the council should reappoint him to council as mayor and save the $9 million coast of the process. The judge maintained that if there were other options then it would have allowed the Mayor to stay on with a reprimand but the mandatory minimal sentence was to remove him from office. Let Ford stay on and the entertainment continue at city hall. Give him the full 4 years to dig a few more holes or clean up his act. He is only one vote, has stripped the position of much of its previous power and most of the members of the Executive Committee have abandoned him. Let council continue to run council.

I do find it ironic the “Ford Nation”, the far right wing faction which still firmly supports Ford is the same group that is decrying the restrictions of this one example of mandatory minimal sentencing. I wonder if they still support that right wing archaic concept of law for the rest of Canadians?

Ford is a lame duck mayor at best.

He needs to face the electorate to clear the air.

Perhaps the core 'Ford nation' still supports him, but I think he'll have lost a lot of his softer support.

[guyser]

I can say this, there has never been a more concerned and dedicated mayor of Toronto or most anywhere else.

Yup you can say it.

I can say the sun rises in the west.

Both are ridiculous statements.

Weeee!!!!!!!!!!!

Dedicated.....not a single meeting on his agenda in afternoons from end of Aug to end of Novemeber.

Yup, dedication personified.

[jacee]

Yup you can say it.

I can say the sun rises in the west.

Both are ridiculous statements.

Weeee!!!!!!!!!!!

Dedicated.....not a single meeting on his agenda in afternoons from end of Aug to end of Novemeber.

Yup, dedication personified.

It's become apparent that to Rob Ford, the Mayor's office is just a way for him to enjoy his hobbies - chatting on the phone with his friends, ordering public employees to do work for private citizens, companies and 'charities', and playing on the football field every afternoon.

[Guest Peeves]

Do the math yourself.

All approved by Council.

Rob Ford uses taxpayer money to fund HIS HOBBY.

I accuse you of false slander here. You are suggesting he is corrupt. Either prove your allegation or retract it. I expect facts that support your accusation.

What TAXPAYER money?

Edited December 11, 2012 by Peeves

[guyser]

I accuse you of false slander here. .

Uh oh, someones been sleeping for a mighty long time.

Either prove your allegation or retract it. I expect facts that support your accusation.

What TAXPAYER money?

The tax money we all pay in the city. Ya know, land tax and the like.

Ford testified he had staffers being paid to do football stuff etc,

One need not link common knowledge.

[Guest Peeves]

Uh oh, someones been sleeping for a mighty long time.

The tax money we all pay in the city. Ya know, land tax and the like.

Ford testified he had staffers being paid to do football stuff etc,

One need not link common knowledge.

On that point I agree..

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/1255466--mayor-rob-ford-appears-too-have-used-city-staff-to-coach-football

[jacee]

I accuse you of false slander here. You are suggesting he is corrupt. Either prove your allegation or retract it. I expect facts that support your accusation.

What TAXPAYER money?

As stated earlier:

Ford's 3 office staff spent a few days - say 3 - raising the $3000, while they were being paid by us. One of Ford's political staff spent the entire football season - 3 mo. - working full time organizing and administering the football team, paid for by us.

Approx. cost to us taxpayers, 70 staff days = $14000. (We paid about $2000 for the $3000 solicited.)

Now add to that the cost of paying Rob Ford as Mayor every afternoon for months, while he's actually playing on the football field ... about $28,000.

How would you feel about a city bus driver who chose not to drive his bus in the afternoon but coach football instead, while still getting paid?

How ' bout, EVERY city staff member spend every (taxpayer paid) afternoon working for a charity instead of doing what we pay them for?

You ok with that?

Edited December 11, 2012 by jacee

[guyser]

On that point I agree..

http://www.thestar.c...-coach-football

So why challenge jacee?

[jacee]

On that point I agree..

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/1255466--mayor-rob-ford-appears-too-have-used-city-staff-to-coach-football

From your link

Ford was censured by council in 2010 for improperly using city resources to help with his football foundation, which raises money to help schools start teams. He said under oath last week that he has stopped doing so, but he did not say he doesn’t use city resources for his teams.

Ther is absolutely no difference between misusing city staff/resources to raise money for a football foundation and misusing them to run the football team.

[Guest Peeves]

So why challenge jacee?

asking for proof is certainly a reasonable request in the circumstance.

[guyser]

asking for proof is certainly a reasonable request in the circumstance.

When you already knew it to be true?

ok

[jacee]

Next Ford debacle ... election financing audit results coming in January:

http://m.thestar.com/news/gta/cityhallpolitics/article/1302673--more-trouble-for-rob-ford-audit-results-coming-in-january

Among other allegations,they argue that the Ford campaign breached the Municipal Elections Act by exceeding the legal spending limit by $156,384 and by allowing a Ford family company to pay for $77,722 in campaign expenses. The campaign repaid the company a year later without interest; corporate donations,and loans from companies that are not recognized lending institutions,are illegal.

...

Ford initially appealed the committee’s decision to order an audit,then dropped the appeal in April. Prior to April,his lawyer said simply that he complied with the law; Ford was less definitive in his April statement, saying, “Everything during the campaign was done in good faith with the intention of complying fully with election law.”

Interesting that Ford knew how to pretend he cared about complying with the law back in April.

He seemed to have forgotten how in court this fall.

I'm thinking he's toast in his next election.

[Boges]

Rob Ford's poll numbers don't look too bad.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/cityhallpolitics/article/1303528--poll-ndp-s-olivia-chow-only-serious-by-election-threat-to-rob-ford

Mayor Rob Ford’s public support is steady at 42 per cent, making only NDP MP Olivia Chow a serious threat if a mayoral by-election was held now, a new poll suggests.

Last Friday’s Forum Research survey of 897 Torontonians includes, however, a couple of red flags for Toronto’s embattled mayor. A growing number say Ford brought his troubles on himself, while one-third of his supporters would be OK with council appointing Deputy Mayor Doug Holyday to serve out a turfed Ford’s term.

The poll, with a margin of error of 3 per cent, 19 times out of 20, asked people to choose from slates of potential candidates. Among them, only Ford has said he would run if his appeal of aconflict of interest ruling fails and he is forced out of office — and council opts for a by-election rather than appointing a caretaker mayor.

Ford came out tops in a variety of three-way and four-way combinations that did not include Chow (Trinity-Spadina). When her name was added, she mopped the floor with all rivals, including Ford.

If Ford were facing popular Newstalk 1010 host John Tory and councillors Adam Vaughan and Shelley Carroll, the mayor would be re-elected — albeit with only 31 per cent of the vote, the poll suggests.

Apparently a simple majority of council can just acclaim Rob Ford even if he loses his appeal. Would a $7 million election less than 2 years before the next election really be worth it?

[jacee]

Rob Ford's poll numbers don't look too bad.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/cityhallpolitics/article/1303528--poll-ndp-s-olivia-chow-only-serious-by-election-threat-to-rob-ford

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Apparently a simple majority of council can just acclaim Rob Ford even if he loses his appeal. Would a $7 million election less than 2 years before the next election really be worth it?

Olivia Chow beats everyone including Ford.

[Fletch 27]

Rob Ford will win again... As the pole states with factual credits and a leftist poll. As the poll states "Chow would be the closest"... But only a small group would vote for that Spend-thrist leftist... TO is in a hole... People see it,, and this poll proves that.

http://www.cireport.ca/2010/12/in-2009-olivia-chow-claimed-530000-in-expenses.html

She is THE epitomy of the NDP.... Just above Mehgan Leslie in Exenses.... Ouuch

[jacee]

Rob Ford will win again... As the pole states with factual credits and a leftist poll. As the poll states "Chow would be the closest"... But only a small group would vote for that Spend-thrist leftist... TO is in a hole... People see it,, and this poll proves that.

http://www.cireport.ca/2010/12/in-2009-olivia-chow-claimed-530000-in-expenses.html

She is THE epitomy of the NDP.... Just above Mehgan Leslie in Exenses.... Ouuch

Read it again fletch.

Chow would beat Ford.

[Boges]

Left-winger Shelley Carroll has said she'd run. Olivia hasn't yet. If she does there's some vote splitting there.

The only person that'll split Ford's vote is Stintz. No way John Tory is running, he's done that and now that people have rejected him politically they want him back. He'll just count his money while people listen to him blab on his Drive-home show.

[PIK]

Well he used the f - word yesterday for getting hit in the face by a camera, so it is time for him to step down. LOL But reading the comments from the left just makes you shake your head.