David McGuinty quits for offensive Alberta remarks.

[Boges]

At least when this McGuinty resigns he can't shut down the House as well.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/11/21/david-mcguinty-resigns-shadow-cabinet-post-after-back-to-alberta-controversy/

OTTAWA — Ontario Liberal MP David McGuinty apologized Wednesday and resigned his post as the party’s natural resources critic after he said Alberta MPs need to take a nationwide view of energy policies or go home.

“I would like to unreservedly and unequivocally apologize for comments which I made with respect to parliamentary colleagues from the province of Alberta. My words in no way reflect the views of my party or leader, and I offer my apology to them as well as my colleagues from Alberta,” McGuinty, an Ottawa MP, said in a statement Wednesday.

“I hold all Parliamentarians in high esteem, and I regret my choice of words, as I can understand the offence they have caused. I have offered my resignation as energy and natural resources critic to my leader, and he has accepted. I look forward to continuing to serve my constituents in the House of Commons.”

I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on Alberta politics. But I do know that McGuinty and his ilk blaming Alberta and the "Petro-Dollar" for the problems Ontario is facing is an absolute copout.

McGuinty should look at his brother as the primary reason Ontario is in so much trouble. Ontario's energy and fiscal policies are embarrassing.

Edited November 23, 2012 by Boges

[PIK]

Well it has shown the libs have not change at all. They still think the west is just a bunch of rednecks,that do not deserve any respect, just do what you are told and STFU. As one lad said he never told the separtists to go home ,so that proves the hate on for the west by the liberals and with PET's son on the way ,it is even more proof. The liberal's old boy's club is still running the show and trudeau will only be a puppet.

[Topaz]

As a NDP, who is from Alberta, one MP said she doesn't think this has to do with "alberta" its more about the Alberta MP's, including the PM not having a Energy National Policy because of the oil sands. Harper , himself, when he was a liberal member , quit the liberals because of Trudeau's National program back in the '70's. We know that all MP's from Alberta will do everything, to protect the oil sands, and I understand that but if one watches QP, one does get very frustrated with the Tories environmnet issues. McGuinty said, and he shouldn't have said it that way but also Harper himself back in the '80s or '90's said that people from the Atlantic Canada, were a bunch of lazy people who wanted to live on EI or welfare. BTW, were are most of the full-time jobs at.....out west, especially Alberta, so there is some truth of what he said.

[wyly]

but then there was ralph klein who said "let the eastern bastards freeze in the dark" and he just received the order of canada...hypocrisy is a wonderful thing...

[Boges]

but then there was ralph klein who said "let the eastern bastards freeze in the dark" and he just received the order of canada...hypocrisy is a wonderful thing...

When did he say that and for what reason?

[login]

The OP is a false dichotomy.. the CPC can't claim to be a federalist party if they don't support Canada first.

The firewall Alberta party is just a diambiguation of the Bloc, a provoncial party dedicated to nothing but the oil patch in Albetra.

McGuinty spoke the truth.

If Alberta policy ain't a policy that benefits Canada it is cow dung.

The CPC is just another Bloc Albertoil

It not Canadian.

Supporting Albeta Oil is one thing but putting it before Canada is justnplain wrong, and that is what McGuinty meant no doubt.

I applaud him for kicking the Albertan supremacists and boo for not backing up a Canada first policy.

If its not about Canada go home, you belong in Provincial politics.

Sure both the Bloc Albertoil and Qubeqois would fart on me for saying it but it is the truth of the matter even if absent from reality.

Edited November 22, 2012 by login

[Boges]

First of all a good number of the CPCs seats are from Ontario so to call them an Alberta party is ridiculous. There actually the only party with actual national representation.

McGuinty was being a hypocrite. What about the Ontario auto industry in "National"?

What exactly does making the Oilsands a national issue mean? Should the oil revenue be seized by the Feds and shared with the rest of the country above and beyond the huge tax revenue Ottawa gets from it?

[login]

First of all a good number of the CPCs seats are from Ontario so to call them an Alberta party is ridiculous. There actually the only party with actual national representation.

Protest vote.

Ontario is fairly conservative but it ain't Albertan conservative. You don't get it. That ain't the CPC that is the tag alongs.

It is PC Ontario & Reform Alliance west... but the whole thing is very new wave. People will remember why they hated the PC's. The young people don't have the money or the jobs.

It is turnover and well if you know the real story to why the PC's are at the helm this is a no brainer.

They ain't on the wheel though.

Edited November 22, 2012 by login

[Boges]

I dunno, the Harris Conservatives were pretty conservative.

I contend the reason the PCs lost in Ontario in 2011 is they weren't conservative enough. Without Ontario this Alberta party you're hating on wouldn't have any power whatsoever.

[August1991]

As a NDP, who is from Alberta, one MP said she doesn't think this has to do with "alberta" its more about the Alberta MP's, including the PM not having a Energy National Policy because of the oil sands.

The problem is with the word "national". When people in Ontario use the term "national" or even "Canadian", they are in effect referring to themselves. Elsewhere in Canada, there is a clear distinction between "Ontario" and "Canada". No one in BC, or Nova Scotia or PEI is confused between "Canada" and, say, PEI. This confusion only exists in Ontario.

The OP is a false dichotomy.. the CPC can't claim to be a federalist party if they don't support Canada first.

The firewall Alberta party is just a diambiguation of the Bloc, a provoncial party dedicated to nothing but the oil patch in Albetra.

McGuinty spoke the truth.

On the contrary, the Tories under Harper (or Mulroney, and even the Liberals under Trudeau) have a clear idea of "Canada".

Canada is a federal state and provincial governments are sovereign in their jurisdictions. As it turns out, the BNA Act explicitly gives provincial governments control over natural resources.

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Canada works best when individual Canadians are not forced to choose between Canada and their own region.

Edited November 23, 2012 by August1991

[Sleipnir]

And Trudeau accused of Mulcair of being divisive

[August1991]

And Trudeau accused of Mulcair of being divisive

Trudeau Jnr accused him.

Trudeau Snr had a different, genuine view of Canada.

Edited November 29, 2012 by August1991

[Topaz]

Maybe what McGuinty was referring to what how many Albertians are Ministers, and part.secretaries and State reps. there are in Harper's government.