Hudson Jones Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) Back to the Gaza incident where a family was killed. DogOnPorch has one of the most trusted organizations on his side, CAMERA, where they regularly expose Pallywood: The military declared its version of events definitive. Others went further and saw a Palestinian conspiracy. An American pro-Israel pressure group, Camera, which seeks to influence media coverage, went so far as to suggest that the film of Huda Ghalia's trauma was faked: "Were the bodies moved, was the girl asked to re-enact her discovery for the camera, was the video staged?" Pallywood even has former pentagon battlefield analysts on their payroll! Check out the stuff that he says: But the army's account quickly came in for criticism, led by a former Pentagon battlefield analyst, Marc Garlasco, investigating for Human Rights Watch. "You have the crater size, the shrapnel, the types of injuries, their location on the bodies. That all points to a shell dropping from the sky, not explosives under the sand," he said. "I've been to hospital and seen the injuries. The doctors say they are primarily to the head and torso. That is consistent with a shell exploding above the ground, not a mine under it." Mr Garlasco also produced shrapnel from the site apparently marked as a 155mm shell used by the army that day. The DogOnPorch/American Woman tag team will NOT allow Pallywood to influence the masses. They will expose the "fakeries"! Edited November 21, 2012 by Hudson Jones Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
DogOnPorch Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 No shell hole...no shell. Pretty simple. If a 155mm lands on your beach party, I guarantee you'd not be finding your lawn chairs. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) Did they not have video of Palestininas knocking over lawn chairs once they realised they would not still be standing had a shell hit? This is from memory so I don't claim to be sure. Edit> I just went back and reread the post. The above question is actually answered there. Sorry about that. I must pay more attention. Edited November 21, 2012 by bcsapper Quote
Hudson Jones Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Posted November 21, 2012 No shell hole...no shell. Pretty simple. If a 155mm lands on your beach party, I guarantee you'd not be finding your lawn chairs. You are the expert, so all I can do is agree with whatever that you type. Will you also guarantee that former Pentagon battlefield analyst, Marc Garlasco was on the Pallywood payroll and his analysis that it was an Israeli shell that hit the area based on the evidence of where the injuries to the bodies were, the crater size, the shrapnel in the bodies? Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Hudson Jones Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Posted November 21, 2012 Did they not have video of Palestininas knocking over lawn chairs once they realised they would not still be standing had a shell hit? This is from memory so I don't claim to be sure. Edit> I just went back and reread the post. The above question is actually answered there. Sorry about that. I must pay more attention. It's okay. Here is the fake video. Those Palestinian kids are quite the actors: Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Okay.....cease fire is in place. Let's see how long it takes Hamas or the Islamic Jihad to break it. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Hudson Jones Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Posted November 21, 2012 Okay.....cease fire is in place. Let's see how long it takes Hamas or the Islamic Jihad to break it. Because in the past, it's always been them who broke the ceasefire. Even though back in 2008, it was Israel who broke the ceasefire between Hamas and Israel when Israel attacked. Even though it was Israel who broke the truce and even killed the Hamas negotiator who was part of the negotiations. Nice to see your level of analysis based on events is in the same expert range as DogOnPorch and American Woman. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
DogOnPorch Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 It's okay. Here is the fake video. Those Palestinian kids are quite the actors: No shell hole. Not a 155mm howitzer. A direct 155 hit and you'd see a big crater...no lawn chairs...mangled corpses. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Because in the past, it's always been them who broke the ceasefire. Even though back in 2008, it was Israel who broke the ceasefire between Hamas and Israel when Israel attacked. Even though it was Israel who broke the truce and even killed the Hamas negotiator who was part of the negotiations. Nice to see your level of analysis based on events is in the same expert range as DogOnPorch and American Woman. I have to give you Hamas supporters credit for tenacity in your defense of Pallywood. I suppose you really don't have a choice. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Hudson Jones Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Posted November 21, 2012 No shell hole. Not a 155mm howitzer. A direct 155 hit and you'd see a big crater...no lawn chairs...mangled corpses. Please provide proof of what the size of a shell hole should be like to dispute the former pentagon military analyst. Also, explain the body injuries since a mine would have blown up their legs instead of only injuries to the upper body. Set this former pentagon military analyst straight with your expert opinion. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Because in the past, it's always been them who broke the ceasefire. Even though back in 2008, it was Israel who broke the ceasefire between Hamas and Israel when Israel attacked. Even though it was Israel who broke the truce and even killed the Hamas negotiator who was part of the negotiations. If you say so...finding and killing the leaders of terrorist organizations is the stated policy of not only Israel, but other nations as well. Let this mean that "cease fires" are broken 10,000 times. Nice to see your level of analysis based on events is in the same expert range as DogOnPorch and American Woman. I don't know why you persist in this personal level of attack when there is more than enough subject matter to discuss directly. Do you feel threatened by those with opposing views ? Do you consider yourself an "expert" from the comfort of your Canadian couch? Do you feel powerless against the entrenched and well funded supporters of Israel compared to internationally recognized terrorist organizations? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 (edited) Please provide proof of what the size of a shell hole should be like to dispute the former pentagon military analyst. Also, explain the body injuries since a mine would have blown up their legs instead of only injuries to the upper body. Depends on the type of mine. You don't seem to have experience in such things. We can play this game your way if you like. Canada has no Pentagon. Edited November 21, 2012 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Please provide proof of what the size of a shell hole should be like to dispute the former pentagon military analyst. Also, explain the body injuries since a mine would have blown up their legs instead of only injuries to the upper body. Set this former pentagon military analyst straight with your expert opinion. Hudson wants proof artillery shells leaves craters. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Hudson Jones Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Posted November 21, 2012 Depends on the type of mine. You don't seem to have experience in such things. We can play this game your way if you like. Canada has no Pentagon. The military declared its version of events definitive. Others went further and saw a Palestinian conspiracy. An American pro-Israel pressure group, Camera, which seeks to influence media coverage, went so far as to suggest that the film of Huda Ghalia's trauma was faked: "Were the bodies moved, was the girl asked to re-enact her discovery for the camera, was the video staged?" But the army's account quickly came in for criticism, led by a former Pentagon battlefield analyst, Marc Garlasco, investigating for Human Rights Watch. "You have the crater size, the shrapnel, the types of injuries, their location on the bodies. That all points to a shell dropping from the sky, not explosives under the sand," he said. "I've been to hospital and seen the injuries. The doctors say they are primarily to the head and torso. That is consistent with a shell exploding above the ground, not a mine under it." Mr Garlasco also produced shrapnel from the site apparently marked as a 155mm shell used by the army that day. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
DogOnPorch Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 No crater...no 155mm shell. It's REALLY simple. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Note that the playing cards are apparently immune to the effects of high explosives. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 ...But the army's account quickly came in for criticism, led by a former Pentagon battlefield analyst, Marc Garlasco, investigating for Human Rights Watch... More agenda driven experts....yawn. Let's get back to the terrorist fighting and skip all this BS. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Note that the playing cards are apparently immune to the effects of high explosives. Oh my.....I am in tears. She could have filled that straight! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Hudson wants proof artillery shells leaves craters. He should ask the "pentagon". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Note that the playing cards are apparently immune to the effects of high explosives. You would think there would at least be some sand on them. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 You would think there would at least be some sand on them. A 155mm shell typically carries about 20kg of TNT. If you're familiar with the stuff, you'll know that's a BIG BANG. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Oh my.....I am in tears. She could have filled that straight! I owe you a virtual beer for that one. Made me spit me coffee!! Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 A 155mm shell typically carries about 20kg of TNT. If you're familiar with the stuff, you'll know that's a BIG BANG. Hey, I was a sapper... Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 21, 2012 Report Posted November 21, 2012 Hey, I was a sapper... I figured it wasn't that you were an expert on pine trees. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Hudson Jones Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Posted November 21, 2012 You would think there would at least be some sand on them. The body you're looking at is in a different location than the rest of the bodies. Did you ever think that shrapnel could kill someone close by? Did you get a chance to watch the video? If you did, then you wouldn't be making that comment. Either that or you are going into denial mood like DogOnPorch and calling all of this staged. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
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