bush_cheney2004 Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 Now here is an interesting item seen as I munched my morning Corn Flakes. It seems that the NDP is doing some untoward things with Nova Scotia IT jobs, namely outsourcing them to American firms. The political "optics" and data privacy concerns are unsettling for some to be sure. The Nova Scotia government has announced a deal with IBM Canada to contract out administration of its computer information system, angering dozens of information technology workers who were told their jobs will be outsourced. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2012/11/08/ns-sap-jessome.html Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Fletch 27 Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 This is especially bad with RIM closing the Technical support and "I-T" facility just last month... 700 Jobs... The NDP, regardless of provincial or Federal, have NO clue... Financial management? Economics? Hell no,,, Only if its Union jobs.. Quote
guyser Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 Which american firm is doing the work? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 9, 2012 Author Report Posted November 9, 2012 IBM Canada...or maybe Keane. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
scribblet Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) Comments are saying outsourcing to American hands, but the article says IBM Canada. Maybe the assumption is that IBM will outsource to India. More info here, it seems the gov't won't be actually saving money but will be more efficient ? http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/nova-scotia-announces-deal-to-outsource-payroll-procurement-info-to-ibm-177873631.html Edited November 9, 2012 by scribblet Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
guyser Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) Hmm....no more worried than having the entire US Federal govt using Blackberry phones? All 17,500 of them? The political "optics" and data privacy concerns are unsettling for some to be sure. Always will be Edited November 9, 2012 by guyser Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 9, 2012 Author Report Posted November 9, 2012 Hmm....no more worried than having the entire US Federal govt using Blackberry phones? All 17,500 of them? Doesn't bother me at all. Besides, Android phones and contracts will eventually drive RIM to its inevitable demise. See Palm OS. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
guyser Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 . Doesn't bother me at all. . I have no doubt about that, but for some.... The political "optics" and data privacy concerns are unsettling for some to be sure Quote
Fletch 27 Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 ITs called BYOD (Bring your Own Device)... of the 17,500 who have been offered the BYOD,, 17,300 (200 Fish and game guys) have remained with Blackberry BTW... I wont begin to talk about the mobile viruses on both iOS and Android..... Doesn't bother me at all. Besides, Android phones and contracts will eventually drive RIM to its inevitable demise. See Palm OS. Quote
punked Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) They aren't "outsourcing" them. They are asking IBM to do the work cheaper however as part of the deal IBM is setting up shop in NS and hiring 500 workers. All the workers who are being "laid off" are being offered jobs at the new IBM which is opening up in Halifax. So what is the NS NDP doing? They are creating jobs. DO SOME RESEARCH! I noticed a lot of union haters around here jumped all over the Unions statement on "outsourcing" with out doing any research. Go figure. Edited November 9, 2012 by punked Quote
scribblet Posted November 9, 2012 Report Posted November 9, 2012 But the union doesn't like it so it must wrong Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Topaz Posted November 10, 2012 Report Posted November 10, 2012 We all know about outsourcing, so here's my question, does any country outsource their business to Canada? The US gets business from Canada, does US outsource to Canada? Quote
PIK Posted November 10, 2012 Report Posted November 10, 2012 My hunting lic comes from tennesse. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 10, 2012 Author Report Posted November 10, 2012 We all know about outsourcing, so here's my question, does any country outsource their business to Canada? The US gets business from Canada, does US outsource to Canada? Yes....an example would be Customer Service call centers. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
TimG Posted November 10, 2012 Report Posted November 10, 2012 We all know about outsourcing, so here's my question, does any country outsource their business to Canada? The US gets business from Canada, does US outsource to Canada?Many Canadian software companies write software for foreign customers. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 10, 2012 Author Report Posted November 10, 2012 Many Canadian software companies write software for foreign customers. Yep....my own firm uses a company in Quebec to do just that, and it didn't take any betrayal by the NDP. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
punked Posted November 10, 2012 Report Posted November 10, 2012 Yep....my own firm uses a company in Quebec to do just that, and it didn't take any betrayal by the NDP. Again all of this will still be done I Nova Scotia just by IBM who will also be creating 500 jobs and all workers have the option to of working at the new IBM which will be doing the work. Quote
madmax Posted November 11, 2012 Report Posted November 11, 2012 This is a very strange thread. It seems like everyone agree but seems to be looking for an argument. Quote
punked Posted November 11, 2012 Report Posted November 11, 2012 This is a very strange thread. It seems like everyone agree but seems to be looking for an argument. That is what true compromise is isn't it? I really do not see the down side and the unions only complaint is that their pension won't come with to the new IBM jobs. Give a little to get 400 additional jibs in NS on top of the people already doing this work there. Good governance is hard but the NS NDP seem to be doing it right striking a balance with out giving up their core. Quote
bleeding heart Posted November 11, 2012 Report Posted November 11, 2012 It seems that the NDP is doing some untoward things with Nova Scotia IT jobs, namely outsourcing them to American firms. The political "optics" and data privacy concerns are unsettling for some to be sure. Nova Scotians--and Canadians generally--will do as they wish. No matter how often the Canada-obssessed wannabees depend on us for their entertainment! You can't make this stuff up! Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
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