Justin Trudeau will run for the Liberal Leadership

[Mr.Canada]

Trudeau has rarely spoke on policy, how do you know he is very left wing?

Read the book he wrote.

[Newfoundlander]

Read the book he wrote.

No thanks!

Also didn't know he wrote one.

Edited September 29, 2012 by Newfoundlander

[Mr.Canada]

No thanks!

Also didn't know he wrote one.

Lol yeah he sure did and he speaks glowingly of Fidel Castro as a great leader and a great man etc. It's pretty disturbing.

[August1991]

Canadian society has, for decades, been shifting to the left.

Huh? "... shifting to the left?" The politics of federal Canada are regional, not ideological.

Left? Is the "Left" a tribe?

Canadians vote by tribe, by region. If you want to understand Canada, that's my first lesson.

Edited September 29, 2012 by August1991

[Newfoundlander]

Lol yeah he sure did and he speaks glowingly of Fidel Castro as a great leader and a great man etc. It's pretty disturbing.

What's the name of it?

[August1991]

I SAY CANADA .....IF WE WOULD ALL GET TOGETHER LIKE A FAMILY....SAVE OUR MONEY....

Canada is not a family. In a family, most people can talk to one another. Many people in Canada don't speak the same language. Canada is a country. It's not a family.

A country and a family are two different things; they're different institutions.

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I doubt there is any position on Trudeau and the students. Just as there wasn't a position from the Federal Conservative Gov or the Opposition.

Harper is a federalist: education is a provincial matter.

Trudeau Jnr is an Obama politician: cool. He is above the fold.

Welcome to democracy in the 21st century.

Edited September 29, 2012 by August1991

[Mr.Canada]

What's the name of it?

It's a book about his father, the name escapes me. The yused to vacation in Cuba al l the time as personal guests of Castro. Castro came to Canada as well to visit the Trudeau family. PET wrote one paper while in Harvard supporting of Communism and Marxism. So I'm sure that attitude trickled down to this children. PEt would've joined the NDP but felt they could never reach power. having PET in power was just like having the NDP in power.

[BC_chick]

Trudeau Jnr is an Obama politician: cool. He is above the fold.

And they said Obama was too inexperienced to run for the presidency. That he was nothing but a pretty face and a lot of charm. That he talks well in speeches but can't carry himself in a debate.

Even Bill Clinton said during the primaries that it's just a pipe-dream.

Then he went up against the old Republicans who had run themselves into the ground with their abuse of power after years of controlling all the branches of government.

He won. Many were aghast and couldn't believe a recently elected senator with little experience was the POTUS.

He's done a heck of a job ending wars, catching Bin Laden, bringing in health-care all while trying to fix an economy on the brink of a depression.

He's about to get re-elected.

So ya, Trudeau is like Obama? That would be a pretty good thing.

Edited September 29, 2012 by BC_chick

[August1991]

And they said Obama was too inexperienced to run for the presidency. That he was nothing but a pretty face and a lot of charm. That he talks well in speeches but can't carry himself in a debate.

Even Bill Clinton said during the primaries that it's just a pipe-dream.

Then he went up against the old Republicans who had run themselves into the ground with their abuse of power after years of controlling all the branches of government.

He won. Many were aghast and couldn't believe a recently elected senator with little experience was the POTUS.

He's done a heck of a job ending wars, catching Bin Laden, bringing in health-care all while trying to fix an economy on the brink of a depression.

He's about to get re-elected.

So ya, Trudeau is like Obama? That would be a pretty good thing.

In addition, Obama had that famous name recognition factor.

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But BC_Chick, before you start to laud the success of Obama, let's see how this one plays out. In your view, is Obama pushing America on the upside or downside in the world, of its history? Does Obama make Americans feel more/less confident of its future?

As to Trudeau Jnr, other than the Obama cool (inherited from Trudeau Snr), he lacks Obama's glib phrasing.

Nevertheless, you (and I) have a point. Leftists of North America (women in particular) are in thrall to politicians such as Obama and Trudeau Jnr.

As Margaret Thatcher famously said, socialism works until it runs out of other people's money. Obama is apparently the type of guy who wines and dines the ladies - but with an over-extended credit card or two. I fear that Trudeau Jnr would be the same.

Stephen Harper (love him or hate him) at least does not seduce the ladies, and he's now parsimonious with the credit card.

Edited September 29, 2012 by August1991

[WWWTT]

Harper is a federalist: education is a provincial matter.

Didn't stop JT from making a recording for robocalls that went out to Kitchener Waterloo provincial bi election claiming the NDP want the separation of Canada(federal matter).

WWWTT

[WWWTT]

So ya, Trudeau is like Obama? That would be a pretty good thing.

The big difference would be that the US only has two parties competing for the white house.

Very different system there than here,so making such comparisons are far reaching.

WWWTT

[PIK]

The big difference would be that the US only has two parties competing for the white house.

Very different system there than here,so making such comparisons are far reaching.

WWWTT

She is a typical women, vote for the cool cute guy, no matter what his policies are.

[BC_chick]

She is a typical women, vote for the cool cute guy, no matter what his policies are.

I am not a typical women (sic) who'd vote for JT not matter what his policies were. I actually have tremendous admiration for his views. They are very similar to mine.

I've also been a LPC supporter for a very long time.

Nice try though.

[BC_chick]

As Margaret Thatcher famously said, socialism works until it runs out of other people's money. Obama is apparently the type of guy who wines and dines the ladies - but with an over-extended credit card or two. I fear that Trudeau Jnr would be the same.

Except that since Thatcher's time liberal governments have been far more fiscally responsible than conservative ones.

For some reason though, conservatives love to propagate the myth that liberals do nothing but spend.

[BC_chick]

The big difference would be that the US only has two parties competing for the white house.

Very different system there than here,so making such comparisons are far reaching.

WWWTT

I would never argue at this point that Trudeau will turn the LPC around and become prime-minster. All I'm saying is never say never. Stranger things have happened in politics.

I was shocked when Obama won the Dem nomination and then the GE. I still remember the disbelief.

JT as prime-minister is actually less far-fetched to me than Obama as president in early 08.

[Mr.Canada]

I would never argue at this point that Trudeau will turn the LPC around and become prime-minster. All I'm saying is never say never. Stranger things have happened in politics.

I was shocked when Obama won the Dem nomination and then the GE. I still remember the disbelief.

JT as prime-minister is actually less far-fetched to me than Obama as president in early 08.

What life experience does he have? Obama was a senator for years and had been in politics for a long before winning the nom then the ge.

[BC_chick]

What life experience does he have? Obama was a senator for years and had been in politics for a long before winning the nom then the ge.

Obama only became a senator in 04, that's why a lot of people couldn't believe he was running for POTUS 4 years later.

Trudeau has been an MP longer and he's won his seat twice. In Papineau too, a Bloc stronghold. He didn't even run for an easy seat.

[Mr.Canada]

Obama only became a senator in 04, that's why a lot of people couldn't believe he was running for POTUS 4 years later.

Trudeau has been an MP longer and he's won his seat twice. In Papineau too, a Bloc stronghold. He didn't even run for an easy seat.

Obama was elected to the state Senate in 1996. US senate in 2004. Before that he was lawyer and teacher of law at Uni of Chicago for 5 years and before that he was a community organizer. He has served on various boards as well. Trudeau's resume isnt even close.

Look at Harper, Martin or Chretien's career before he became PM then look at Trudeau's, big difference. Hell I even rather have Mulcair as PM at least the man is an experienced politician, lawyer and teacher.

Trudeau is riding on his fathers name. He cannot even handle himself in a scrum properly. He doesn't look very Prime Ministerial to me. Maybe he can be a PM but first he needs some experience plus he's very young.

I'm 4 years younger then he is. Is Mr. Canada ready to run the nation? No, not yet.

Edited September 30, 2012 by Mr.Canada

[Mr.Canada]

nt.

Edited September 30, 2012 by Mr.Canada

[BC_chick]

Obama was elected to the state Senate in 1996. US senate in 2004. Before that he was lawyer and teacher of law at Uni of Chicago for 5 years and before that he was a community organizer. He has served on various boards as well. Trudeau's resume isnt even close.

Look at Harper, Martin or Chretien's career before he became PM then look at Trudeau's, big difference. Hell I even rather have Mulcair as PM at least the man is an experienced politician, lawyer and teacher.

Trudeau is riding on his fathers name. He cannot even handle himself in a scrum properly. He doesn't look very Prime Ministerial to me.

I'm not sure he's ready either. I don't think he's sure either or else he would've announced his bid for the leadership already.

All I'm saying is that it wouldn't be as far-fetched as some people would like to think. There was a poll yesterday that he would win 39% of the vote if an election was held today.

Don't you find that surprising given his credentials?

That's the only point I'm making here. People underestimate his appeal because of his credentials (or lack thereof) yet you can't deny that there is something there.

Personally, I don't even think he's going to run even though he's obviously thinking about it. He wanted to earn his seat and that's why he ran in Papineau. Believe it or not, he walked door to door and really made an effort to reach out to his constituents.

A person close to me was very involved in that campaign and knows Justin personally. He (Trudeau) does not want to run on his father's name.

I think he'll do the same with the leadership.

[Mr.Canada]

BC_Chick, I'm really not trying to be a jerk to you. I know I can come across like an ass sometimes.

Justin is a likeable guy he really is. When I see him on TV I find myself wanting to like him. I just think if he runs and wins now he will ruin his career before he begins. What's the hurry? He has his whoile political life ahead of him. In 5-10 years when he is more polished and experienced he would be better prepared. He has the charisma like his father did but he lacks the pressence and air of confidence that PM's have.

That's good to hear as if i was him I would be sick of hearing about my father too. At least he seems to have some integrity. I think the poll has to do with his name at this point, sadly.

Edited September 30, 2012 by Mr.Canada

[BC_chick]

I just think if he runs and wins now he will ruin his career before he begins. What's the hurry? He has his whoile political life ahead of him. In 5-10 years when he is more polished and experienced he would be better prepared.

I agree. I think he may be getting pushed into it a bit but I really don't think it's what he wants either.

[Deuce]

Justin Trudeau is launching his campaign for the Liberal leadership in three Canadian provinces this week.

On Tuesday night, Trudeau will officially kick off his campaign at the William-Hingston community centre in his Montreal riding of Papineau. An overflow crowd is expected to crowd into the small auditorium, with many Liberals travelling from Toronto and Ottawa to attend the launch.

The next day, Trudeau will head across the country to Richmond, B.C., for a rally at an airport-area hotel on Wednesday night.

The notice for that gathering gives some hint of the broad planks likely to be in Trudeau’s leadership platform.

“For Justin, investing in youth, diversity and the environment are the best ways to ensure our country’s long-term prosperity, and he is increasingly convinced that the Liberal Party is the best vehicle to champion these issues and to create the Canada that the world needs us to be,” the B.C. event notice states.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1264831--justin-trudeau-to-kick-off-liberal-leadership-campaign-in-quebec-b-c-and-ontario

Getting to see some of the leadership platform now.

[bud]

this is a last ditch effort to save the liberal party. trudeau winning the leadership will be good for he conservatives as the ndp will lose some of the votes they gained from the liberals in the last election. i'd hate to see it happen, but we might even have a merging of the two parties, much like the reform and the pc did.

trudeau has the charisma and the potential to be the prime minister, but it's more than likely it won't happen in a few years.

[PIK]

I am not a typical women (sic) who'd vote for JT not matter what his policies were. I actually have tremendous admiration for his views. They are very similar to mine.

I've also been a LPC supporter for a very long time.

Nice try though.

Actually nobody really knows his policies yet, not even the libs themselves, so yes you are a women that will vote for the cute guy. Marc Garneau is a very smart guy but boring like harper, so he does not stand a chance.

Edited October 1, 2012 by PIK