PIK Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Because if you put marois in, you will all be painted with the same brush. Human nature. And is that what the non-separtists that will vote for the PQ want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Because if you put marois in, you will all be painted with the same brush. When has a premier ever been "put in" by 100% of the population? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted August 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 When has a premier ever been "put in" by 100% of the population? That is not what I said. Just saying non-separtists vote PQ for whatever reason, but as I had mentioned human nature will be to paint everyone with the same brush. IMO This will be the 1st time you will see a fed govermnet stick it to quebec if marios gets a majority. Harper does not need quebec, and if marios comes out after the feds like she said she will, harper will have the ROC behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckistani Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 There's a difference between being something and being painted to be something. Are you saying separatism is inherently racist? If so, between what two or more races is this conflict taking place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted August 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 There's a difference between being something and being painted to be something. Are you saying separatism is inherently racist? If so, between what two or more races is this conflict taking place? I am saying is marios policies will make everyone look bad in quebec, if she gets in with a majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bambino Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 That is not what I said. It is implied when you state "all quebecors and francophone [sic]" will be deemed to be "racist" if they "put marois in"; "[they] will all be painted with the same brush." You're putting the responsibility for the appointment of Marois as Premier of Quebec squarely on not just all Quebec voters but all people in Quebec and Francophones not only therein but even beyond! That's ludicrous. There are xenophobic, parochial nationalists in Quebec who will vote for the PQ. That doesn't in any way mean all Quebecers and Francophones are racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Because if you put marois in, you will all be painted with the same brush. Human nature. And is that what the non-separtists that will vote for the PQ want? No, not all Quebeckers are racist. The PQ is racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckistani Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 No, not all Quebeckers are racist. The PQ is racist. How so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 How so? "Nous" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 "Nous" Remember too that many in Quebec think of "Quebecois" as an ethnicity. Not just a "Nation" what ever that is, but an ethnic group. They view themselves like the Kurds, or Baluchi people, as a people without a homeland, and they view Quebec as that ethnic homeland, and this is what causes that racism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckistani Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Remember too that many in Quebec think of "Quebecois" as an ethnicity. Not just a "Nation" what ever that is, but an ethnic group. They view themselves like the Kurds, or Baluchi people, as a people without a homeland, and they view Quebec as that ethnic homeland, and this is what causes that racism. Many people view themselves that way - are they all racist? Are the Israelis racist for demanding they be recognized as a Jewish state? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Many people view themselves that way - are they all racist? Are the Israelis racist for demanding they be recognized as a Jewish state? No, because Isralies are an ethnicity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckistani Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 No, because Isralies are an ethnicity So you concede the point, I take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunrutz Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I wouldnt say all, but they do tend to take care of their own, there is some racism in that for sure, but its more of an us vs them attitude in my experience, it's something that white aglo's couldn't get away with nearly as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Because if you put marois in, you will all be painted with the same brush. Human nature. And is that what the non-separtists that will vote for the PQ want? You been listening to Lowell Green on CFRA today? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewTeddy Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 So you concede the point, I take it. No. There is no different "race" between Americans and Canadians, so if one were to think they were a race to oppose the other, than that would be simple racism. There is, however, an identifiable "Japanese" race, and so if Japan decided that anyone who is not "Japanese" is not allowed to stay, than they are free to do so, in part as well because Japan has never sold itself as the place to be for immigrants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter F Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 I am saying is marios policies will make everyone look bad in quebec, if she gets in with a majority. I suppose. and with equal validity, Harpers reaction will make everyone in Canada look bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted September 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) No, not all Quebeckers are racist. The PQ is racist. Did I say that ,No I did not, can't read? Please read what I said before you mouth off, ok? Edited September 4, 2012 by PIK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted September 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 I suppose. and with equal validity, Harpers reaction will make everyone in Canada look bad. Well please explain that, this should be fun. Show me where anything harper did ,is anything like the racist marois. This is just pure BS on your part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter F Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Well please explain that, this should be fun. Show me where anything harper did ,is anything like the racist marois. This is just pure BS on your part. Harpers reaction will make everyone in Canada look bad. Not what he did, you see, but what he will do. I cannot show you what he will do because he hasn't done it yet...very much along your line that whatever Marois does will make Quebec look bad. My point being who gives a shit if you don't like the way Quebecers look. I most certainly don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Well, it didn't take long for the violence to begin over the PQ as the government in Quebec. A man with a rifle, was caught by the police but one person was hurt another man died. Charest, lost HIS seat and its time for another leader for the Liberals in Quebec but they will have the NDP against them in the next election. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/quebecvotes2012/story/2012/09/05/marois-victory-speech-shot-fired.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted September 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Harpers reaction will make everyone in Canada look bad. Not what he did, you see, but what he will do. I cannot show you what he will do because he hasn't done it yet...very much along your line that whatever Marois does will make Quebec look bad. My point being who gives a shit if you don't like the way Quebecers look. I most certainly don't. More BS , harper will do nothing, he does not have to. I see the media is trying to make it look like he is in trouble, what a joke that is. Harper is in the drivers seat and I am glad it is he and not a lib. He will give her enough rope to hang herself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Harpers reaction will make everyone in Canada look bad. Not what he did, you see, but what he will do. I cannot show you what he will do because he hasn't done it yet...very much along your line that whatever Marois does will make Quebec look bad. My point being who gives a shit if you don't like the way Quebecers look. I most certainly don't. Your Point? I can't figure out what you have said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 Well please explain that, this should be fun. Show me where anything harper did ,is anything like the racist marois. This is just pure BS on your part. Where are you from PIK? Is everyone there as prejudiced as you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckistani Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) No. There is no different "race" between Americans and Canadians, so if one were to think they were a race to oppose the other, than that would be simple racism. There is, however, an identifiable "Japanese" race, and so if Japan decided that anyone who is not "Japanese" is not allowed to stay, than they are free to do so, in part as well because Japan has never sold itself as the place to be for immigrants. Pretzel logic Come on. Japanese are a race so enacting race based policies aren't racism? And how are the Japanese any more or less a race than the Quebecois? If you want to go down this road, neither Japanese nor Quebecois are races. Neither are the Israelis. So I guess they're all racist for enacting policies based on their ethnicity. Edited September 5, 2012 by Canuckistani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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