PIK Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 Because if you put marois in, you will all be painted with the same brush. Human nature. And is that what the non-separtists that will vote for the PQ want? Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
g_bambino Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 Because if you put marois in, you will all be painted with the same brush. When has a premier ever been "put in" by 100% of the population? Quote
PIK Posted August 30, 2012 Author Report Posted August 30, 2012 When has a premier ever been "put in" by 100% of the population? That is not what I said. Just saying non-separtists vote PQ for whatever reason, but as I had mentioned human nature will be to paint everyone with the same brush. IMO This will be the 1st time you will see a fed govermnet stick it to quebec if marios gets a majority. Harper does not need quebec, and if marios comes out after the feds like she said she will, harper will have the ROC behind him. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Canuckistani Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 There's a difference between being something and being painted to be something. Are you saying separatism is inherently racist? If so, between what two or more races is this conflict taking place? Quote
PIK Posted August 30, 2012 Author Report Posted August 30, 2012 There's a difference between being something and being painted to be something. Are you saying separatism is inherently racist? If so, between what two or more races is this conflict taking place? I am saying is marios policies will make everyone look bad in quebec, if she gets in with a majority. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
g_bambino Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 That is not what I said. It is implied when you state "all quebecors and francophone [sic]" will be deemed to be "racist" if they "put marois in"; "[they] will all be painted with the same brush." You're putting the responsibility for the appointment of Marois as Premier of Quebec squarely on not just all Quebec voters but all people in Quebec and Francophones not only therein but even beyond! That's ludicrous. There are xenophobic, parochial nationalists in Quebec who will vote for the PQ. That doesn't in any way mean all Quebecers and Francophones are racist. Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 Because if you put marois in, you will all be painted with the same brush. Human nature. And is that what the non-separtists that will vote for the PQ want? No, not all Quebeckers are racist. The PQ is racist. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
Canuckistani Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 No, not all Quebeckers are racist. The PQ is racist. How so? Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 How so? "Nous" Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
TheNewTeddy Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 "Nous" Remember too that many in Quebec think of "Quebecois" as an ethnicity. Not just a "Nation" what ever that is, but an ethnic group. They view themselves like the Kurds, or Baluchi people, as a people without a homeland, and they view Quebec as that ethnic homeland, and this is what causes that racism. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
Canuckistani Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 Remember too that many in Quebec think of "Quebecois" as an ethnicity. Not just a "Nation" what ever that is, but an ethnic group. They view themselves like the Kurds, or Baluchi people, as a people without a homeland, and they view Quebec as that ethnic homeland, and this is what causes that racism. Many people view themselves that way - are they all racist? Are the Israelis racist for demanding they be recognized as a Jewish state? Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 Many people view themselves that way - are they all racist? Are the Israelis racist for demanding they be recognized as a Jewish state? No, because Isralies are an ethnicity Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
Canuckistani Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 No, because Isralies are an ethnicity So you concede the point, I take it. Quote
gunrutz Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 I wouldnt say all, but they do tend to take care of their own, there is some racism in that for sure, but its more of an us vs them attitude in my experience, it's something that white aglo's couldn't get away with nearly as much. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 Because if you put marois in, you will all be painted with the same brush. Human nature. And is that what the non-separtists that will vote for the PQ want? You been listening to Lowell Green on CFRA today? lol Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
TheNewTeddy Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 So you concede the point, I take it. No. There is no different "race" between Americans and Canadians, so if one were to think they were a race to oppose the other, than that would be simple racism. There is, however, an identifiable "Japanese" race, and so if Japan decided that anyone who is not "Japanese" is not allowed to stay, than they are free to do so, in part as well because Japan has never sold itself as the place to be for immigrants. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
Peter F Posted August 31, 2012 Report Posted August 31, 2012 I am saying is marios policies will make everyone look bad in quebec, if she gets in with a majority. I suppose. and with equal validity, Harpers reaction will make everyone in Canada look bad. Quote A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends
PIK Posted September 4, 2012 Author Report Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) No, not all Quebeckers are racist. The PQ is racist. Did I say that ,No I did not, can't read? Please read what I said before you mouth off, ok? Edited September 4, 2012 by PIK Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
PIK Posted September 4, 2012 Author Report Posted September 4, 2012 I suppose. and with equal validity, Harpers reaction will make everyone in Canada look bad. Well please explain that, this should be fun. Show me where anything harper did ,is anything like the racist marois. This is just pure BS on your part. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Peter F Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 Well please explain that, this should be fun. Show me where anything harper did ,is anything like the racist marois. This is just pure BS on your part. Harpers reaction will make everyone in Canada look bad. Not what he did, you see, but what he will do. I cannot show you what he will do because he hasn't done it yet...very much along your line that whatever Marois does will make Quebec look bad. My point being who gives a shit if you don't like the way Quebecers look. I most certainly don't. Quote A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends
Topaz Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 Well, it didn't take long for the violence to begin over the PQ as the government in Quebec. A man with a rifle, was caught by the police but one person was hurt another man died. Charest, lost HIS seat and its time for another leader for the Liberals in Quebec but they will have the NDP against them in the next election. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/quebecvotes2012/story/2012/09/05/marois-victory-speech-shot-fired.html Quote
PIK Posted September 5, 2012 Author Report Posted September 5, 2012 Harpers reaction will make everyone in Canada look bad. Not what he did, you see, but what he will do. I cannot show you what he will do because he hasn't done it yet...very much along your line that whatever Marois does will make Quebec look bad. My point being who gives a shit if you don't like the way Quebecers look. I most certainly don't. More BS , harper will do nothing, he does not have to. I see the media is trying to make it look like he is in trouble, what a joke that is. Harper is in the drivers seat and I am glad it is he and not a lib. He will give her enough rope to hang herself. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
madmax Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 Harpers reaction will make everyone in Canada look bad. Not what he did, you see, but what he will do. I cannot show you what he will do because he hasn't done it yet...very much along your line that whatever Marois does will make Quebec look bad. My point being who gives a shit if you don't like the way Quebecers look. I most certainly don't. Your Point? I can't figure out what you have said? Quote
jacee Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 Well please explain that, this should be fun. Show me where anything harper did ,is anything like the racist marois. This is just pure BS on your part. Where are you from PIK? Is everyone there as prejudiced as you? Quote
Canuckistani Posted September 5, 2012 Report Posted September 5, 2012 (edited) No. There is no different "race" between Americans and Canadians, so if one were to think they were a race to oppose the other, than that would be simple racism. There is, however, an identifiable "Japanese" race, and so if Japan decided that anyone who is not "Japanese" is not allowed to stay, than they are free to do so, in part as well because Japan has never sold itself as the place to be for immigrants. Pretzel logic Come on. Japanese are a race so enacting race based policies aren't racism? And how are the Japanese any more or less a race than the Quebecois? If you want to go down this road, neither Japanese nor Quebecois are races. Neither are the Israelis. So I guess they're all racist for enacting policies based on their ethnicity. Edited September 5, 2012 by Canuckistani Quote
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