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Of course God is not an author; people are.

Completely off topic, and should save it for one of the gun control threads, but this reminded of the joke:

So, if guns don't kill people; people kill people - does that mean that toasters don't toast toast; toast toast toast? :D

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Ah, AW, still don't know what this thread is about do you?

It is not about "All Christians."

It is about those that publicly, and hopefully hilariously, expose themselves to be hypocrites.

I have provided two fine examples:

1) A person (who could be Jewish) who has tattooed Leviticus 18:22 onto his shoulder while ignoring/being ignorant of Leviticus 17:28 (which states that tattoos are a no-no).

I will just respond to your first "fine example" to illustrate the point that I already made: the Bible is subject to interpretation. The verse you quoted ends with "I am the Lord." - Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord.

In ancient times, it was common for some people to cut or "print" symbols of their idols on their flesh out of superstition and/or to show servitude - and one interpretation of the verse you quoted is that one must not do that, one must not print idols on the dead or on their body, for "I am the Lord." IOW: I am the Lord; who only is to be acknowledged as such, obeyed and served, and not any strange god, whose mark should be imprinted on them.

Again, the Bible is open to interpretation, and for you to determine how others should interpret it, or for you to declare people "hypocrites" for not abiding to the Bible the way you think they should, is quite funny. In fact, to use your word, "hilarious."

Furthermore, atheists proclaim that they don't need a belief in God, a religious code of conduct, to behave in a moral and ethical way. So really, every time an atheist behaves in an immoral or unethical way, they, too - to use your word and your judgement - are "hypocrites."

It's as I said previously, hypocrisy and 'hilarity' are not limited to the religious - and the need some of you have to make fun only of the religious is quite telling. I could spend my time looking for examples and making fun of the hypocrisy and hilarity of many an atheist, but if my life should ever deteriorate to the point where I have such a need, I will pray to God to take me out of my misery. :P

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I will just respond to your first "fine example" to illustrate the point that I already made: the Bible is subject to interpretation. The verse you quoted ends with "I am the Lord." - Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord.

In ancient times, it was common for some people to cut or "print" symbols of their idols on their flesh out of superstition and/or to show servitude - and one interpretation of the verse you quoted is that one must not do that, one must not print idols on the dead or on their body, for "I am the Lord." IOW: I am the Lord; who only is to be acknowledged as such, obeyed and served, and not any strange god, whose mark should be imprinted on them.

Again, the Bible is open to interpretation, and for you to determine how others should interpret it, or for you to declare people "hypocrites" for not abiding to the Bible the way you think they should, is quite funny. In fact, to use your word, "hilarious."

Was that so hard?

Really, was that so hard to do?

Instead you go on this multi-post tangent about how I'm bashing Christians when you had this in you all along.

Why didn't you start with this?

I think it is very good and a fine interpretation of the scripts.

I still think my interpretation is funnier but we can agree to disagree.

Furthermore, atheists proclaim that they don't need a belief in God, a religious code of conduct, to behave in a moral and ethical way. So really, every time an atheist behaves in an immoral or unethical way, they, too - to use your word and your judgement - are "hypocrites."

Huh? You are now speaking for atheists?

Really?

As for this being an example of atheists being hypocrites - I really don't follow.

If you take some psycho-atheist who has no code of ethical behaviour then it is not hypocritical to be a psycho-killer q'est que c'est (I think - but once again, I'm not really following you here).

I'm not a psycho-killer atheist and I base my own code of ethics on a .... ah, forget it, that's not what this thread is about. :P

It's as I said previously, hypocrisy and 'hilarity' are not limited to the religious - and the need some of you have to make fun only of the religious is quite telling.

Yes, it means that I want to have a good laugh while interpreting the Bible.

If it leads to some interesting interpretations like you have done above then all the better.

I could spend my time looking for examples and making fun of the hypocrisy and hilarity of many an atheist,

Yes, and I hope I would not whine in that thread to the same degree that you continue to whine here.

but if my life should ever deteriorate to the point where I have such a need, I will pray to God to take me out of my misery. :P

No, your life has deteriorated to the point that you employ your straw man arguments into threads, show yourself to be a complete hypocrite by speaking for entire groups of people (both Christians and Atheists) [hypocritical because you rightly point out how faulty this is when "we" Canadians talk about "Americans" in general] and, yet, you have some good stuff in you.

Your interpretation of Leviticus above is awesome.

Keep that going and stop with this anti-Christian tangent and this thread could develop into something interesting.

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Again, the Bible is open to interpretation, and for you to determine how others should interpret it, or for you to declare people "hypocrites" for not abiding to the Bible the way you think they should, is quite funny.

I suppose this is a fundamental question.... who gets to interpret a holy book and by what authority?

Priests/Imams, etc? Each individual?

And how does one come up with the interpretation "gays = bad, but working on Sabbath is OK now"?

Birth control was bad... "be fruitful and all that", but now, it isn't so bad after all.

This is all good stuff. It should change with the times, but eventually, doesn't it become simply irrelevant? If you are only following a few rules and hundreds of pages are essentially discarded, what's the point?

Even the 10 commandments, that some folks would like to have in a courthouse in the USA (can't remember the exact situation), people essentially ignore what are supposed to be the bedrock of Christianity. The Sabbath? Ignored for the most part, except for a very few.

Are the rest of us going to hell? Who's interpretation should folks listen to about that? Your own? Because Jesus didn't reaffirm it in the New Testament it can be ignored? Even some of the most devout followers of religion pick and choose what to believe as a matter of convenience.

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Oklahoma student Kaitlin Nootbaar-- 4.0 GPA, 4 straight years of straight A's-- is being refused her high-school diploma because she uttered the word "hell" in her valedictorian speech. It was offensive, and she can't have her diploma until she writes a letter of apology. The hypocrisy might not hit you until you see the school's mascot. :lol:

Do you realize that "devil" isn't always associated with hell, right? For example, if you say someone is "full of the devil," it doesn't mean they are an evil demon, it means they are "very energetic, mischievous, daring, or clever." Also, when someone is described as a "handsome devil," there is no reference to hell or demons intended.

For the record, for whatever reason, in the speech Kaitlin Nootbaar presented to the school for approval, she used the word "heck," not "hell."

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I will just respond to your first "fine example" to illustrate the point that I already made: the Bible is subject to interpretation. The verse you quoted ends with "I am the Lord." - Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord.

For the record: Section 19 of Leviticus according to King James Version:

19 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,

2 Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say unto them, Ye shall be holy: for I the Lord your God am holy.

3 Ye shall fear every man his mother, and his father, and keep my sabbaths: I am the Lord your God.

4 Turn ye not unto idols, nor make to yourselves molten gods: I am the Lord your God.

5 And if ye offer a sacrifice of peace offerings unto the Lord, ye shall offer it at your own will.

6 It shall be eaten the same day ye offer it, and on the morrow: and if ought remain until the third day, it shall be burnt in the fire.

7 And if it be eaten at all on the third day, it is abominable; it shall not be accepted.

8 Therefore every one that eateth it shall bear his iniquity, because he hath profaned the hallowed thing of the Lord: and that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

9 And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not wholly reap the corners of thy field, neither shalt thou gather the gleanings of thy harvest.

10 And thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor and stranger: I am the Lord your God.

11 Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another.

12 And ye shall not swear by my name falsely, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the Lord.

13 Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.

14 Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the Lord.

15 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

16 Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour; I am the Lord.

17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord.

19 Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.

20 And whosoever lieth carnally with a woman, that is a bondmaid, betrothed to an husband, and not at all redeemed, nor freedom given her; she shall be scourged; they shall not be put to death, because she was not free.

21 And he shall bring his trespass offering unto the Lord, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, even a ram for a trespass offering.

22 And the priest shall make an atonement for him with the ram of the trespass offering before the Lord for his sin which he hath done: and the sin which he hath done shall be forgiven him.

23 And when ye shall come into the land, and shall have planted all manner of trees for food, then ye shall count the fruit thereof as uncircumcised: three years shall it be as uncircumcised unto you: it shall not be eaten of.

24 But in the fourth year all the fruit thereof shall be holy to praise the Lord withal.

25 And in the fifth year shall ye eat of the fruit thereof, that it may yield unto you the increase thereof: I am the Lord your God.

26 Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times.

27 Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.

28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord.

29 Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.

30 Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the Lord.

31 Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the Lord your God.

32 Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head, and honour the face of the old man, and fear thy God: I am the Lord.

33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.

34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.

35 Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment, in meteyard, in weight, or in measure.

36 Just balances, just weights, a just ephah, and a just hin, shall ye have: I am the Lord your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt.

37 Therefore shall ye observe all my statutes, and all my judgments, and do them: I am the Lord.

I suppose I'm a literalist on this one.

Oh, and there's a lot of "I am the Lord's" in there. :D

It's almost like god is talking to someone to write this stuff down or something. :lol:

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And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not wholly reap the corners of thy field, neither shalt thou gather the gleanings of thy harvest.

I find Christian vineyard owners hypocritical... the poor could use some merlot grapes dammit!

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The loss of faith in Europe is like an unseen black star that still has tremendous gravitational pull. they dont understand why their culture is failing. They dont understand why divorce rates and suicide rates are so high, they don't understand why so few european women have more than one child, and why on most european streets, you see more dogs than children. this is the impact of the death of real Christian belief in Europe.

If the West has become a hedonistic de-populating civilization exporting its values of consumerism throughout the world it will cave in and collapse like many civilizations before it and darkness will descend.

The God of Hedonism and Sexual Indulgence has given us a world of broken marriages, shattered families, the sestruction of the traditional family, epidemic ten pregnancy, fatherless children and the social dysfunction that accompanies such, and a younger generation addicted to pornography unmoored from sexual sanity. The God of Money, which rules Wall Street and America has delivered the world to a present and future calamity that will cause suffering not seen in at least a century.

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Do you realize that "devil" isn't always associated with hell, right? For example, if you say someone is "full of the devil," it doesn't mean they are an evil demon, it means they are "very energetic, mischievous, daring, or clever." Also, when someone is described as a "handsome devil," there is no reference to hell or demons intended.

:lol: Trying to argue that "devils" isn't necessarily meant to refer to a demon isn't going to fly when it's a picture of a red guy with a tail, horns, and a pitch-fork.

For the record, for whatever reason, in the speech Kaitlin Nootbaar presented to the school for approval, she used the word "heck," not "hell."

Be that as it may, I somehow doubt that many people will see the school as being in the right and her being in the wrong. What the school doing is most likely illegal. She's off to college regardless, and they've become the target of international laughter and ridicule.

I notice that their website is now redirecting to Google. They have no doubt discovered that they stepped in it in a big way.

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You are totally correct here Shady, I usually don't agree with you but some posters just don't get it.

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They go on and on and on, with "stuff" that is not only repetitive but is also mostly made up. It is sickening.

Critical thought indeed. Why the focus, bordering on obsession - mind, on something that has very little effect on them? Why not sink their teeth in to something where they have a stake in?

You're bang on with this one.

Post of the month. Congrats Shakey!

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If there is any book of God's wishes; any book that God himself or those acting on his behalf wrote; IE any book where God is the author, then it MUST be accurate if it is to be followed. Such a book with errors can not be considered the word of God because God does not make mistakes. Hence, any book that you consider the "Word of God" must be without error, or, you are insulting God by claiming he makes errors. Any claim that "Humans wrote the book and they made the errors" is easily wiped away by "Then how do you know what is an error?" Therefore, again, any book with an error, can NOT be the word of God.

Now that this is clear, it is very simple really. Any book that IS the word of God must be 100% correct. Every paragraph, every sentence, every word, every letter. If even a single letter is wrong it means that your book is NOT the word of God, but rather, just what YOU think God wants; but not what God actually wants.

Considering that every holy book has "unpopular" parts that are not followed, it really just backs up my view on this topic and all related topics: God is not an Author.

100% agree with this. You can only pick and choose things to believe/not believe from the Bible if you use it only as source of philosophical/moral inspiration as you would any book of philosophy, not as the divine word/will of God. If you take anything in the Bible as the actual divine word/will of God which cannot be questioned, then you can't pick and choose the parts you like/dislike. You must follow every message in that book as its meaning is best understood, like or dislike them, otherwise your beliefs fall apart in a hypocritical, illogical mess.

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:lol: Trying to argue that "devils" isn't necessarily meant to refer to a demon isn't going to fly when it's a picture of a red guy with a tail, horns, and a pitch-fork.

I'm not trying to "argue" anything; that is, of course, the visual that goes with "devil." I'm just saying that there are different characteristics ascribed - it's not all demonic.

Be that as it may, I somehow doubt that many people will see the school as being in the right and her being in the wrong. What the school doing is most likely illegal. She's off to college regardless, and they've become the target of international laughter and ridicule.

Do you think that matters? Do you act on whether "that many people will see [you] as being in the right" or do you act according to what you believe? As for it "most likely being illegal," I doubt if you have enough knowledge of the situation to come to that conclusion. As for what they are the target of, I'm wondering if they care. Do you place that much emphasis on what everyone else thinks or do you care more about what you think?

I notice that their website is now redirecting to Google. They have no doubt discovered that they stepped in it in a big way.

You've no idea what they've "discovered." You are simply applying your mindset to the situation and assuming that they are reacting accordingly.

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I'm not trying to "argue" anything; that is, of course, the visual that goes with "devil." I'm just saying that there are different characteristics ascribed - it's not all demonic.

And "hell" isn't always used to mean a Biblical place of eternal suffering either. But if you're convinced that the principal of the school with the little demon logo isn't a hypocrite for taking this action over the word "hell", you are welcome to that belief. You have a right to your opinion, regardless of how ridiculous it is.

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And "hell" isn't always used to mean a Biblical place of eternal suffering either.

No, it's not, and I don't recall the principal objecting on those grounds.

But if you're convinced that the principal of the school with the little demon logo isn't a hypocrite for taking this action over the word "hell", you are welcome to that belief.

Why, thank you. That's so very tolerant of you. :)

And if you believe that the principal is a hypocrite simply because the school logo is a devil, well, I'm not surprised.

From what I've read, the principal has refused comment, so I won't pass judgment, not knowing the school code regarding use of 'four letter words.' What I do believe is that a school has the right to require certain conduct of its students. Again. The student in question didn't submit a speech for approval with "hell," but with "heck." Once she found out that the school administration found it offensive, all she had to do was apologize - a simple, "I'm sorry, I realize that's not what I submitted for approval, I didn't mean to offend" really isn't that difficult nor the worst expectation in the world on the part of the principal. I'm not saying whether I think the school is right or wrong - I'm saying I don't think every school has to set its standards on what I think is right or wrong.

You have a right to your opinion, regardless of how ridiculous it is.

Again. I thank you for your oh-so-gracious tolerance. :)

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I have one :D

Mathew 6:19

Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal

Mathew 19:23

I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.

Basically these are directives against hording wealth and earthly materialism... be it food, water, gold, money, etc. Yet the church itself has worked to obtain an absolutely staggering ammount of earthly treasure, and Christians today are probably the most materialistic people in human history.

Im not sure I would call this hypocracy though. Christians today live in a sandbox where material wealth is a panacea for EVERYONE, and they generally rely on members of the church hierarchy for guidance as opposed to reading scriptures themselves.

To expand on this a bit... Is it fair to call christians that dont adhere to Jesus's teachings "hypocrits"? At the end of the day they are forced to live life by todays rules, and are immersed in todays culture.

I think generally I would describe christians that ignore or rationalize around religious edicts in a book written thousands of years ago to be logical, smart, and pragmatic. Not "hypocrits". And if being willing to ignore scripture in order to coalesce around modern culture and morals makes you a "hyprocrit" then I wish there was a whole lot more of them! Christians deserve credit for finding a way to reconcile their faith with the modern world... not scorn.

The risk is that we set the bar too damn high. If religion folks adhere to scripture we call them fundamentalist and extremist. If they dont... we call them hypocrits.

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The risk is that we set the bar too damn high. If religion folks adhere to scripture we call them fundamentalist and extremist. If they dont... we call them hypocrits.

Excellent points, Dre.

The Chrisitians (or Jews, Muslims etc) that I'm concerned with are the ones who are fundamental extremist hypocrites.

Like the ones I have pointed to: pick the vilest sections of the Bible as the principles for everyone else to adhere to while ignoring the adjacent sections that just aren't convenient for themselves to adhere to.

Yes, I revile those Muslims who stone to death women who allegedly have had affairs.

Sure, it is consistent with the Koran and the Bible.

But there is so little value in the Bible/Koran that to harken back to these primitive books is laughable.

Why not simply teach people the "Golden rule" and other principles that make logical sense and stop with this nonsense of "this old book says such and such?"

IOW, why should we respect anyone who bases their ethics based on what some book of "authority" says whether we agree with their ethical conclusions or not?

Why should we respect anyone who takes such "reading of scriptures" or, worse, " guidance from" the priest/pastor seriously?

To the extent that these people want to apply the "Good Book" to their own lives then by all means don't marry people of the same gender, don't eat shrimp or pork, and, better yet, live a life more accustomed to Matthew 6:19 and 19:23. That's fine and good.

But as soon as these freaks want to make public policy, or public stonings, then I say get the pitch forks and brooms out and lets start treating them

if only to give them a taste of their own God Damned medicine.

Or not.... ;)

As I said, excellent points, Dre.

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Time for another example of some Christian using the Bible in a Republican repugnant way.

AW brought up the point about interpreting the Bible and maybe I'm not doing it right (for which we agree to disagree or, at least, I agree to disagree).

This example is interesting because once again shows a religious person who presumably takes the bible seriously but not so seriously as to consider the context with which the quote is being pulled:

Milton Neitsch, Jr. of Victoria, Texas put up a billboard (in accusatory “Arabic”-y font) saying “Pray for Obama” and “Psalms 109:8″ because the verse in question says this:

Let his days be few; and let another take his office.

Neitsch must have been thinking: Let’s make Obama a one-term president! (Also, he’s a secret Muslim!)

What Neitsch didn’t pick up on was how the verse looks in context. In fact, the chapter in question refers to “wicked men” and says this (Psalms 109:7-13):

7 When he shall be judged, let him be condemned: and let his prayer become sin.

8 Let his days be few; and let another take his office.

9 Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.

10 Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.

11 Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labour.

12 Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favour his fatherless children.

13 Let his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let their name be blotted out.

That’s… pleasant. Believe it or not, the Bible wasn’t referring to a one-term American presidency. (Shocking, I know.) It was talking about killing people.

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Oh, there were, and there are men who have read the Bible and yet do things that are opposed to the Bible's teachings. Present day biggest example are pedophiles who present themselves as representatives of God. And so it will go on....

What's the diferrence between a pedophile priest and a pedophile football coach? None.

They're both wolves in sheep's clothings! Both got into a position where they can have access to young boys....and girls.

You think these pedophiles ever entertained the idea of working in a retirement home? :lol:

Law-breakers are everywhere. You see a father presenting a decent image for everyone yet secretly gobbles up porn sites, and go with hookers. There's the wife and mother who indulges in adulterous affair with the neighbor or her child's hockey coach. There's your everyday Joe and Jane, trying to come up with creatives ways to cheat from paying their taxes.

What about politicians? from every stripe or color (doesn't matter whether liberals or conservatives or whatever!)

Look at the feminist movement - who became silent about Clinton's abuse of power in the oval office! With a local Joe Blow, they'd be screaming sexual harrassment in the workplace! Look at Clinton! Didn't he champion protecting women?

What about Communism? A godless ideology selling the idea of equality. What happens in communist regimes?

What about scientists who try to pass fiction for facts - which borders on dishonesty, not to mention fraud? Encouraged, supported, abetted and in some cases funded by a secularist society who claim to abhor being dictated to by religion....

....and yet this same secularist society want to dictate what we eat, and how we live? Furthermore, they're not content to simply dictate - they start imposing their own laws!

Isn't this scarey???

Somebody telling you, "you CANNOT eat this or that because I say it is bad for you!" "I know you are an adult, and that this is a free society ....but...I'll make the decision for you anyway! I know what's good for you."

Boy....talk about the mother of all hypocrisy! :D

And that's just the tip of it.

Guess what. Most of these people claim to be upstanding citizens!

Hypocrisy is everywhere, Msj.

So what's your point?

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Oh, but it's so much more fun this way! Another thread criticizing Christians! Yippee Skippy. What fun. We must expect every Christian to be perfect, or point it out the hypocrisy. Because of course every Christian proclaims to be perfect, thus the hypocrisy when they aren't, don't 'cha know.

No, it's just another thread showing the usual ignorance. The OP sums it all up.

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Here is an oldie but a goodie:

Ricky Gervais explains why he, despite being an atheist, is really a good Christian.

He uses the 10 commandments as the basis for his proof.

I note that the ten commandments are important to Judaism, Christianity, and Islam - I agree with Ricky Gervais when he states "ecause unlike ALL religions, as an atheist, I treat ALL religions equally." :D

I particularly like his take on the 3rd commandment:

'You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.'

I never do. But let me explain something. Most people think that The Third Commandment means that they shouldn't use his name as a swear word, e.g. shouting, "Oh God!" when they stub their toe instead of, "Oh Fuck!"

This is not the case (although I love the idea that God would rather them shout "Fuck" than "God". That makes him cool in my book. But no.)

The commandment could equally be, You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in "vanity" e.g. when your enemy is hurt or defeated saying, "that's God's wrath," or when you win an award saying, "thank God." This is using his name in vanity. It's suggesting that you KNOW that God helped you win that award because you deserved it more, or because he was on your side. It's always tickled me that God would have a favourite actor at The Golden Globes.

Anyway I get another point. I think most non-atheists will lose a point here.

The entire article is worth a read and is a good, and humourous, interpretation of this part of the Bible.

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Now here is a positive story about respecting the Bible: Penn State Atheists Will Get ‘Stoned’ for Charity

Basically, the "blasphemer" atheists are going to get stoned (see Leviticu 24:14) to support a charitable cause.

While the Bible condones actual stoning the University policy won't allow it (thank you secularism!). :D

So water balloons will be used instead.

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Well, I'm back to this thread... and not dead yet wink.png

This story isn't so funny and it could be some lone whack job (even an atheist whack job ph34r.png ) but lets tell it anyways:

The allegation is that opponents of marriage equality have been phoning people in Washington State and lying to them by asking them to reject referendum 74 so as to allow same sex marriage.

As is pointed out in the link, this is a violation of the 9th commandment - thous shall not bear false witness.

I know, I know - religious people would never lie so this must be some atheist group doing this! laugh.png

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