August1991 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 No Lutheran would ever speak of success, but for a few brief centuries, Lutherans have made a wonderful life for many. I fear that it won't last. Quote
The_Squid Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 Care to expand on this so that those that don't live in your head can understand what the heck you are talking about? Quote
cybercoma Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Care to expand on this so that those that don't live in your head can understand what the heck you are talking about? And worst OP of the year award goes to.... Edited July 24, 2012 by cybercoma Quote
August1991 Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Posted July 24, 2012 Care to expand on this so that those that don't live in your head can understand what the heck you are talking about?Well for starters, the North American Left is once again talking about how Sweden and the rest of Scandinavia seem to be successful, sustainable, Big Government societies. And what strikes me about places like Finland, Estonia, Denmark is that the people are Lutheran.Secondly, a Lutheran church is a remarkable place, compared to a mosque or a Catholic Church. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 Secondly, a Lutheran church is a remarkable place, compared to a mosque or a Catholic Church. It is?? How so? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 Well for starters, the North American Left is once again talking about how Sweden and the rest of Scandinavia seem to be successful, sustainable, Big Government societies. And what strikes me about places like Finland, Estonia, Denmark is that the people are Lutheran. Secondly, a Lutheran church is a remarkable place, compared to a mosque or a Catholic Church. They're also more blonde... and everybody knows blondes are dumb... so therefore perhaps being stupid leads to wisdom and intelligent governments... Hmmmmm.... Hmmmmm.... Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 It is?? How so? You're more likely to hear Abba at a Lutheran mass, apparently. In other news, random observations are being followed with much interest with no understanding as to why. As long as we collectively regard these as poetic, and not worth the pixels they're printed on, then we'll all be okay. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Guest American Woman Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 They're also more blonde... and everybody knows blondes are dumb... Only fake blondes are dumb. Natural blondes are among the most intelligent people in the world. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 24, 2012 Report Posted July 24, 2012 Only fake blondes are dumb. Natural blondes are among the most intelligent people in the world. I love them either way. As for Lutherans... who knows... what's the DNA of a Lutheran look like ? Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
kimmy Posted July 25, 2012 Report Posted July 25, 2012 Well for starters, the North American Left is once again talking about how Sweden and the rest of Scandinavia seem to be successful, sustainable, Big Government societies. And what strikes me about places like Finland, Estonia, Denmark is that the people are Lutheran. The Scandinavians are among the least religious people on earth. They're Lutheran in the same sense that Quebecois are Catholics. (ie, theoretically, on paper.) Secondly, a Lutheran church is a remarkable place, compared to a mosque or a Catholic Church. Are you sure? I don't know anything about mosques, but I have seen some pretty remarkable Catholic churches. It's no secret that I don't like much about religion, but I have to give them a big thumbs-up for awesome architecture. And the Catholics do it up better than most. Although, my Scandinavian ancestors built some pretty rocking churches as well. I think these predate Lutheranism, however. They're also more blonde... and everybody knows blondes are dumb... so therefore perhaps being stupid leads to wisdom and intelligent governments... oooooh you're on extremely thin ice, you hapless mook. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
kimmy Posted July 25, 2012 Report Posted July 25, 2012 Natural blondes are among the most intelligent people in the world. Utterly shocking-- shocking!! that someone could suggest that intelligence could coincide with a phenotype. I would anticipate that the Political Correctness Police will be pounding at your door at any moment. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
Michael Hardner Posted July 25, 2012 Report Posted July 25, 2012 oooooh you're on extremely thin ice, you hapless mook. -k I'm parodying the thread itself. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
kimmy Posted July 25, 2012 Report Posted July 25, 2012 I'm parodying the thread itself. August is, if I recall correctly, a professional mathematician of some description. Perhaps a mathematician is drawn to search for generalizations to help make sense of chaos. Scandinavians ---> blonde Scandinavians ---> Lutheran but Blonde ---> cheerful Blonde ---> dumb and Lutheran ---> honest, earnest .:. Scandinavians ---> Honest, earnest, cheerful, but dumb Scandinavians ---> Socialists .:. Socialists ---> Honest, earnest, cheerful, but dumb. It probably makes even more sense if you draw Venn diagrams. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
wyly Posted July 25, 2012 Report Posted July 25, 2012 lutheran? Estonia 86% atheist...Sweden 83% atheist...Denmark82% atheist...Norway 72% atheist... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
socialist Posted July 25, 2012 Report Posted July 25, 2012 lutheran? Estonia 86% atheist...Sweden 83% atheist...Denmark82% atheist...Norway 72% atheist... I need this information for school. where can i find a cite of these stats? thanks in advance. Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
wyly Posted July 25, 2012 Report Posted July 25, 2012 I need this information for school. where can i find a cite of these stats? thanks in advance. they're just what I can remember, there are a number of sites that have similar poll results they're not hard to find...but go with the source that you find reasonable...some religious sites will have vastly different results because they base their numbers on church records, but they don't take into account continuing cultural tradition where people are still going to church for traditional wedding and festive celebrations even though they're atheists... and others are counted into church numbers because their parents were member's even though they no longer follow parental beliefs... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Michael Hardner Posted July 25, 2012 Report Posted July 25, 2012 August is, if I recall correctly, a professional mathematician of some description. I don't think that's true. I have a degree in mathematics, and I have him tagged as a Bachelor of Arts, in my mind at least. It probably makes even more sense if you draw Venn diagrams. -k No it does not. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
cybercoma Posted July 25, 2012 Report Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) I don't think that's true. I have a degree in mathematics, and I have him tagged as a Bachelor of Arts, in my mind at least. No it does not. Oooo. Is it share your degree day? I have a BA w. first class honours in North American history (concentrated in the history of medicine) and quantitative sociology. I'm also SSHRC funded for my graduate research. Edited July 25, 2012 by cybercoma Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 25, 2012 Report Posted July 25, 2012 Oooo. Is it share your degree day? I have a BA w. first class honours in North American history (concentrated in the history of medicine) and quantitative sociology. I'm also SSHRC funded for my graduate research. I have my PMP and a drivers license with 3 demerit points also. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Canuckistani Posted July 25, 2012 Report Posted July 25, 2012 Protestantism in general certainly contributed a lot to the modern states we enjoy. Question authority, worth and empowerment of the individual, etc. Work ethic. The Scandinavian states may be atheist now, but I think Lutheranism laid a lot of the groundwork for their success. OTOH, Germany is predominanlty Lutheran, and that didn't always work out so well. Quote
wyly Posted July 26, 2012 Report Posted July 26, 2012 Protestantism in general certainly contributed a lot to the modern states we enjoy. Question authority, worth and empowerment of the individual, etc. Work ethic. The Scandinavian states may be atheist now, but I think Lutheranism laid a lot of the groundwork for their success. OTOH, Germany is predominanlty Lutheran, and that didn't always work out so well. you might be overstating lutheranism it may go much further back than that, pre-lutheran or even pre-christian?...work ethic of northern europe is ethnically biased IMO, work ethic is strong everywhere in the world... third world citizens work long hours just survive day to day...my asian dad-in-law worked 12-14hr days 6-7 days a week starting when he left his home alone at 14 and he did that until he retired at 50, I don't know any europeans that did that... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
wyly Posted July 26, 2012 Report Posted July 26, 2012 Oooo. Is it share your degree day? I have a BA w. first class honours in North American history (concentrated in the history of medicine) and quantitative sociology. I'm also SSHRC funded for my graduate research. so, what kind of job prospects do have with a history degree?... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Michael Hardner Posted July 26, 2012 Report Posted July 26, 2012 so, what kind of job prospects do have with a history degree?... What you do when you arrive in the marketplace is a different question than what you studied. There are lots of careers that train you, and ask for a non-specific degree to apply. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Guest Manny Posted July 26, 2012 Report Posted July 26, 2012 I think the point is likely an attack on socialism, welfare, and taxes. In many of these European countries it's mandatory to pay a "church tax", especially the Lutheran. These churches are doing alright because they get PAID, regular. Quote
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