How fair is the student protest?

Fletch 27 · May 18, 2012

Interesting link on how the protesters are threataning the students in class and teachers at home.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/16/masked-protesters-hunt-for-scabs-in-montreal-university-classes/

Signals.Cpl · May 18, 2012

Interesting link on how the protesters are threataning the students in class and teachers at home.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/16/masked-protesters-hunt-for-scabs-in-montreal-university-classes/

Really makes you want to support these protestors thugs doesn't it?

Tilter · May 18, 2012

Nothing is fair these days.

Condoms don't guarantee safe sex anymore.

A friend of mine was wearing one when he was shot by the woman's husband.

dre · May 18, 2012

It makes not one iota of difference if its fair or not. These protests are happening because the government has mismanaged our economy and our money, and we dont have price stability.

This phenomenon is historically one of the largest causes of protests related to the economy. Failure to maintain price stability has even brought governments down completely in the past.

College tuition prices are increasing faster than real wages and when that happens thousands or hundreds of thousands of people are effectively barred from entry, and when that happens they tend to get pissed off.

So looking at this in terms of whats "fair" is a rather juevenile approach to this issue. Its like saying that its not fair that it rains on the day you have a picnic planned. Cry about it all you want but its still raining.

And this is just the tip of the iceberg. We have food and energy and healthcare inflation as well at somewhere around 7-9%. These is going to hit people really hard sooner or later, if it isnt dealt with and youre going to have a lot more political unrest.

Edited May 18, 2012 by dre

-TSS- · May 18, 2012

No surprise that the public even in Quebec, not to mention the rest of Canada, have little or zero sympathy for these protestors.

May 18, 2012

It makes not one iota of difference if its fair or not. These protests are happening because the government has mismanaged our economy and our money, and we dont have price stability.

This phenomenon is historically one of the largest causes of protests related to the economy. Failure to maintain price stability has even brought governments down completely in the past.

College tuition prices are increasing faster than real wages and when that happens thousands or hundreds of thousands of people are effectively barred from entry, and when that happens they tend to get pissed off.

So looking at this in terms of whats "fair" is a rather juevenile approach to this issue. Its like saying that its not fair that it rains on the day you have a picnic planned. Cry about it all you want but its still raining.

And this is just the tip of the iceberg. We have food and energy and healthcare inflation as well at somewhere around 7-9%. These is going to hit people really hard sooner or later, if it isnt dealt with and youre going to have a lot more political unrest.

You might have missed the point, Quebec students pay the lowest University fees in North America and still will after the slight increase.

Thes are spoiled brats that have never heard no. They are anarchists and terrorists and need their collective asses put in jail in someplace that feeds them bread and water.

Otherwise piss on them and their left wing profs and the separatists that support them.

Answer your question?

dre · May 18, 2012

You might have missed the point, Quebec students pay the lowest University fees in North America and still will after the slight increase.

Thes are spoiled brats that have never heard no. They are anarchists and terrorists and need their collective asses put in jail in someplace that feeds them bread and water.

Otherwise piss on them and their left wing profs and the separatists that support them.

Answer your question?

Its not just one increase...

http://higheredstrategy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/quebec-tuition1.png

Tuition rates are projected to almost double over the next 5 years.

Otherwise piss on them and their left wing profs and the separatists that support them.

You are completely missing the point.

Thes are spoiled brats that have never heard no. They are anarchists and terrorists and need their collective asses put in jail in someplace that feeds them bread and water.

Retarded, and as I said before your opinion on the protesters is utterly irrelevant. If the costs of things like food, energy, medical care, and tuition keep increasing faster than real wages we are going to have big problems.

Answer your question?

No your Romper Room level analysis doesnt answer any questions at all about anything other than your failure to grasp the bigger picture.

Edited May 18, 2012 by dre

CPCFTW · May 18, 2012

Dre you seem to be missing an important factor:

People will be pissed if prices continue increase by more than their after tax[/] real income. The price increases wouldn't be so annoying if 20-40% of our real income wasn't going to the government.

The real problem is that our liberal governments gave away so many services for free and subsidized the pricing of other products/services. Now that the credit card is getting tapped, the government can't afford these handouts/subsidies anymore and the people greedily want their entitlements.

It would be no different if you had a million dollar credit card and treated your children like royalty, then maxed your credit card and had to raise your teenage kids on a 50k salary. They'd be "rioting" for their yachts and penthouse condos and beemers.

punked · May 18, 2012

It is not like these students will get jobs when they get out anyways. How fair is the society we live in really?

Signals.Cpl · May 18, 2012

Listen they can protests all year long, I couldn't care less, the problem here is not the increase in the price it is the disregard for the rights of the students who would like to be in school. All of the hundreds or thousands of protestors can protest to their hearts desire but some students do not have the luxury to protest. Some students want to remain in school, and others cannot afford to be protesting maybe they cannot afford the lost tuition or maybe they are a student from another province or an international student and thus have little interest in the politics of the province. What this thugs are trying to do is scare students from going to school, as far as I'm concerned those thugs should have been arrested on the spot.

WWWTT · May 18, 2012

This topic should not be in federal politics.

Provincial issue therefore provincial politics

WWWTT

MiddleClassCentrist · May 18, 2012

It is not like these students will get jobs when they get out anyways. How fair is the society we live in really?

The crap is really going to hit the fan when these people can't find jobs. We should let the protests continue... because they are going to become a lot more commonplace in the near future...

Our entire society is a pyramid scheme for the baby boomers. Yet, everyone else is an entitled brat.

dre · May 19, 2012

The crap is really going to hit the fan when these people can't find jobs. We should let the protests continue... because they are going to become a lot more commonplace in the near future...

Our entire society is a pyramid scheme for the baby boomers. Yet, everyone else is an entitled brat.

Not just the baby boomers by my generation as well... people born in the 70's. Generation Deadbeat.

We drank the bar dry and were gonna leave them the huge tab.

dre · May 19, 2012

Dre you seem to be missing an important factor:

People will be pissed if prices continue increase by more than their after tax[/] real income. The price increases wouldn't be so annoying if 20-40% of our real income wasn't going to the government.

The real problem is that our liberal governments gave away so many services for free and subsidized the pricing of other products/services. Now that the credit card is getting tapped, the government can't afford these handouts/subsidies anymore and the people greedily want their entitlements.

It would be no different if you had a million dollar credit card and treated your children like royalty, then maxed your credit card and had to raise your teenage kids on a 50k salary. They'd be "rioting" for their yachts and penthouse condos and beemers.

20-40% of our income would get eaten up pretty quickly if the cost of things like energy, food, tuition, and medicine keep inflating 7-10 per year. And this same inflation also raises costs for the government so that they need MORE tax revenue.

We can have a discussion about tax rates/ service levels... but it not going to mitigate the fact that these costs are increasing way faster than the purchasing power of peoples paychecks/dollars.

Rick · May 19, 2012

You might have missed the point, Quebec students pay the lowest University fees in North America and still will after the slight increase.

Thes are spoiled brats that have never heard no. They are anarchists and terrorists and need their collective asses put in jail in someplace that feeds them bread and water.

Otherwise piss on them and their left wing profs and the separatists that support them.

Answer your question?

Many of them feel the same way about people who espouse fanatical right wing extremist views...like calling them anarchists or terrorists when all they are doing is protesting.

Even retired Supreme Court Justice Gomery has come out now and said...this new law Charest and his right wing pals have put in place is wrong and in his words " "a limitation on free expression."

Signals.Cpl · May 19, 2012

Many of them feel the same way about people who espouse fanatical right wing extremist views...like calling them anarchists or terrorists when all they are doing is protesting.

Even retired Supreme Court Justice Gomery has come out now and said...this new law Charest and his right wing pals have put in place is wrong and in his words " "a limitation on free expression."

Yeah because bursting in to classrooms when people are trying to learn, and intimidating those same people is sooooooooooooooooo innocent. They are thugs, an now they are throwing molotov cocktails at the police, you know the once who are stuck enforcing the laws of the land, all the laws passed by the democratically elected leader not just the once they choose. Protesting is one thing, intimidating students is another thing, and trying to murder police officers is a whole different thing.

madmax · May 19, 2012

Really makes you want to support these protestors thugs doesn't it?

worked for the americans against king charles III.

madmax · May 19, 2012

Nothing is fair these days.

Condoms don't guarantee safe sex anymore.

A friend of mine was wearing one when he was shot by the woman's husband.

Didn't work for my friend either and he had one on each finger.

fellowtraveller · May 19, 2012

College tuition prices are increasing faster than real wages and when that happens thousands or hundreds of thousands of people are effectively barred from entry, and when that happens they tend to get pissed off.

What world are you talking about?

Hundred of thousands of Quebec students are barred from entry? Neither their current fees or the increased fees mean a speck of difference for low income students: they attend for free now and attend for free in the future. The remaining (middle and high income)students have to pay a few pesos more for the degree that will earn them an increasd income for life. Taxpayers continue to provide massive subisdies so they can have a chance at good jobs for what is actually a very small investment in their futures.

Cry me a river.

May 19, 2012

Many of them feel the same way about people who espouse fanatical right wing extremist views...like calling them anarchists or terrorists when all they are doing is protesting.

Even retired Supreme Court Justice Gomery has come out now and said...this new law Charest and his right wing pals have put in place is wrong and in his words " "a limitation on free expression."

What they arr doing, that covered on nightly news, IS NOT a protest. NOt free Expression!

It's anarchy, riot and violent demonstration that is breaking the law. Free expression does not allow for such behavior. Kick their asses and they just might have a brain fart and realise they are not entitled to break the law and call it anything but what it is. If free expression is what you see occurring you are badly in need of counseling.

Rick · May 19, 2012

What they arr doing, that covered on nightly news, IS NOT a protest. NOt free Expression!

It's anarchy, riot and violent demonstration that is breaking the law. Free expression does not allow for such behavior. Kick their asses and they just might have a brain fart and realise they are not entitled to break the law and call it anything but what it is. If free expression is what you see occurring you are badly in need of counseling.

Thankfully your antiquated 18th century views on things are becoming less prevalent.

Dinosaurs are extinct...your kind's not far off

In the meanwhile, I think Justice Gomery has far more credibility than yourself on what constitutes free expression.

And the beat goes on...like I've said it would.. the Occupy Movement, Canadian Spring...growing unrest with neo-cons and their corporate rich mentality...all continues to grow

Signals.Cpl · May 19, 2012

Thankfully your antiquated 18th century views on things are becoming less prevalent.

Dinosaurs are extinct...your kind's not far off

In the meanwhile, I think Justice Gomery has far more credibility than yourself on what constitutes free expression.

And the beat goes on...like I've said it would.. the Occupy Movement, Canadian Spring...growing unrest with neo-cons and their corporate rich mentality...all continues to grow

Thank God that there are so few people like you, close-minded, ignorant, and bipolar when it comes to violence.

jacee · May 19, 2012

... extremist views...like calling them anarchists or terrorists when all they are doing is protesting.

Well said Rick.

A few people misbehaving does not make hundreds of peaceful protesters criminals, despite the police who use any feeble excuse to declare protests "unlawful", and sometimes plant paid agitators to give them that excuse.

I am amazed by the courage of the Quebec students and their supporters who are facing tear gas, deafening noises, rubber bullets, and police batons, scattering and regrouping and continuing to assert their right to protest, defending freedom of expression and freedom of assembly in Canada.

That's supposed to be the job of the police.

They're supposed to uphold constitutional rights.

jacee · May 19, 2012

Neither their current fees or the increased fees mean a speck of difference for low income students: they attend for free now and attend for free in the future.

Cite?

Topaz · May 19, 2012

I understand what the students are saying, but I don`t agree with the way they are doing this. If they could get two-thirds of the students to boycott all the schools, that would have a better effect than getting arrested record.