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If nothing else: tap water can have a strong chlorine taste depending where you are. Bottled water does not have that issue.

Since some bottled water does come from municipality sources (with our chlorine, and other things put into the water) .. I will say that bottled water DOES have that issue. It's not regulated like your tap water is.

Water is water is water, and without all the crap put into tap water, or that is naturally out there in the spring water (different mineral compositions in the water because of the area it's coming from) ...

If you can taste the difference in water, I would say you are tasting what is present in the water, or the lack of these items in the water. That to me can explain the difference people experience.

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Repeating the same lie doesn't make it true.

Agreed.

What part isnt true?

Just because the crappy bottled water you choose to refer to comes from the same source, doesn't mean someone with a brain can't read a label and check what the source is.

I only quoted the top 2 selling brands. I generally dont buy it .

The label may not tell you a thing, unless it comes from a spring or other underground source.

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Agreed.

What part isnt true?

I only quoted the top 2 selling brands. I generally dont buy it .

The label may not tell you a thing, unless it comes from a spring or other underground source.

Depending on local regulations, there might not even be a requirement to label the source of the bottled water.

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Who are you calling stupid? I love how quick all you fools are to pass judgement. People will pay for products that they prefer. Period. Some of us prefer the taste of certain brands of bottled water as compared to tap water. And we'll drink it whether or not some moralizing jerk that can't keep their nose out of other people's business thinks its stupid.

I think it's stupid that people drink beer. Do you see me creating threads that people waste money and resources on bottling and distributing it? No. None of my business.

Unconscionable eh? What about the waste associated with making all other kinds of consumer products that aren't strictly necessary? Bottled water is a product like any other. Some people like it, others don't. No one is forced to drink it if they don't want to.

Sorry,it is not 'like any other product'. Its effect is an unnecessary blight on our environment and while true that is as are many other products, but there is a viable alternative. Those using bottled water simply don't care about the impact of using a product that serves no purpose in most daily lives.

There are alternatives ..better choices. So continue if you must but face the reality of what you sow.

and the cost.

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Depending on local regulations, there might not even be a requirement to label the source of the bottled water.

Regulatioons require that the ground source of the water has to be labeled. Not muni-water.

Ergo it has to be labeled mineral water or spring water and ingredients then go on that label.

Muni water has none of that nor do bottlers of muni water have to label the source.

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Depends where you live. We have good water where we live so drinking bottled isn't necessary. That isn't true of a lot of places. The only time I don't use tap water is with good whiskey.

"Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC

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Those using bottled water simply don't care about the impact of using a product that serves no purpose in most daily lives.

1. You know nothing about "those" people, so stop pretending that you know what they care about or don't care about.

2. The product serves a purpose, greater enjoyment/satisfaction, just like every other product that is not strictly necessary.

There are alternatives ..better choices.

And you get to be the one who gets decide what is the better choice for everyone? Who died and made you god? Sorry, but no.

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And you get to be the one who gets decide what is the better choice for everyone? Who died and made you god? Sorry, but no.

Why not quote the whole sentence? Why leave out this....

So continue if you must but face the reality of what you sow.

and the cost.

Because it deflates your post?

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Sorry,it is not 'like any other product'. Its effect is an unnecessary blight on our environment.....

Oil extraction, refinement and delivery.

Bottle manufacturing and delivery.

Bottling plant.

Delivery to customer.

Customer might be a warehouse, then delivered to a store.

Customer might be a store and delivered direct.

All while using transport trucks to deliver all items at every step along the way. As I work in a warehouse, the amount of energy wasted on the delivery of water really hits you when you look at the bulk storage area and there are no less than 200 pallets of bottled water at any given time ... ... the other warehouses can get a few hundred pallets of bottled water daily.

The amount of energy it takes to get that bottled water to your shelf in a grocery store or to a vending machine is incredible.

So to Bonam's bit the big 15L bottles for water fountains are really the way to go .. if you must buy bottled water.

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Oil extraction, refinement and delivery.

Cup and soap manufacturing and delivery.

Delivery to customer.

Customer might be a warehouse, then delivered to a store.

Customer might be a store and delivered direct.

Wash cup with water and soap before drinking "free" tap water.

Washing might occur in a washing machine which uses lots of water and energy.

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tap water here in calgary is every bit as good as bottled water...mrs wyly had me install a filtration system on our tap water and our fridge has yet another filter, still I taste no difference...mrs wyly swears she can tell the difference but then she thinks our kitchen tap has better water than the bathroom tap :rolleyes:...

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tap water here in calgary is every bit as good as bottled water

Same with here.

but then she thinks our kitchen tap has better water than the bathroom tap :rolleyes:...

Ha!

Almost everyone thinks that. I guess proximity to a toilet clouds reason. :)

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tap water here in calgary is every bit as good as bottled water...mrs wyly had me install a filtration system on our tap water and our fridge has yet another filter, still I taste no difference...mrs wyly swears she can tell the difference but then she thinks our kitchen tap has better water than the bathroom tap :rolleyes:...

Calgary also won in a big way with getting rid of the fluoridation of the municipal water supply.

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tap water here in calgary is every bit as good as bottled water...mrs wyly had me install a filtration system on our tap water and our fridge has yet another filter, still I taste no difference...mrs wyly swears she can tell the difference but then she thinks our kitchen tap has better water than the bathroom tap :rolleyes:...

It might, IF you don't close the lid b4 flushing. Otherwise there is a lot of possible (misted fecal)contamination in the room. So I've been led to believe.

I know one truism. Those that grew up when cost was a factor, perhaps ending with the boomers, the waste of a bottled water would not/could not be justified.

Lights were off when not in use.

Home heating entailed the wearing of a sweater.

A/C in moderate climes was a luxury.

Today we have ( an example),disposable water bottles which pretty much sums up much of the present generations wasteful attitude. But, the same one pitching a water bottle is frequently the one willing to lecture on global warming..

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It might, IF you don't close the lid b4 flushing. Otherwise there is a lot of possible (misted fecal)contamination in the room. So I've been led to believe.

Indeed, in fact the reality is that closing the lid doesn't really remove the chance of contamination. Presumably you've just wiped your butt when you then proceed to go and wash your hands. Guess what you touch to wash your hands? The tap. The tap handles of the bathroom sink are covered in fecal matter. This is the reason why so many public bathrooms are converting over to the motion sensor based sinks. However, most people don't have these in their homes. So yes, if I was getting water to consume, I'd get it from the kitchen tap, not the bathroom.

I know one truism. Those that grew up when cost was a factor, perhaps ending with the boomers, the waste of a bottled water would not/could not be justified.

Really? Then how come companies have been making a profit bottling water for over 100 years?

Lights were off when not in use.

Modern lights take less than 10% as much energy as they used to. Additionally, we have many other energy expenditures that overshadow the cost of lighting. Keeping all the lights in my place on continuously would cost me $1.64/month, out of a total electricity cost of ~$20.00/month. By turning lights off when not in use I can save ~$1.00/month. Not exactly a big difference.

Home heating entailed the wearing of a sweater.

Homes tend to be much more efficient and well insulated now and we have more efficient heating systems installed in many homes. I'd also like some proof of your statement.

A/C in moderate climes was a luxury.

It still is.

Today we have ( an example),disposable water bottles which pretty much sums up much of the present generations wasteful attitude.

Only in your mind.

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I know one truism. Those that grew up when cost was a factor, perhaps ending with the boomers, the waste of a bottled water would not/could not be justified.

Lights were off when not in use.

Home heating entailed the wearing of a sweater.

A/C in moderate climes was a luxury.

Today we have ( an example),disposable water bottles which pretty much sums up much of the present generations wasteful attitude. But, the same one pitching a water bottle is frequently the one willing to lecture on global warming..

I can add in my own, unsubstantiated, generalizations too:

Why do people whine about bottled water?

Like putting 25 grams of flavoured sugar into carbonated water is so special and adds so much value.

These people must be Marxists or something.

Good old capitalism is all about marketing something that people don't really need to make a buck.

Bottled water, flavoured water, all they need is a pretty logo or a pitcher crashing through walls yelling "Oh Yeah!"

I laugh at all the people who go to Tim's or Starbucks' to buy coffee or tea - very few bring in reusable mugs.

Tim's even encourages people to buy paper cups with their "roll up the rim" campaigns.

At least *Bucks pretends to be environmental now with their recycle bins for lids and cups (although I have my doubts).

Not to mention that my homemade loose leaf tea costs about 1/10th the price and is about 4 times better.

Personally, I think civilization started to fall apart with the introduction of disposable razors.

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I can add in my own, unsubstantiated, generalizations too:

Why do people whine about bottled water?

Like putting 25 grams of flavoured sugar into carbonated water is so special and adds so much value.

These people must be Marxists or something.

Good old capitalism is all about marketing something that people don't really need to make a buck.

Bottled water, flavoured water, all they need is a pretty logo or a pitcher crashing through walls yelling "Oh Yeah!"

I laugh at all the people who go to Tim's or Starbucks' to buy coffee or tea - very few bring in reusable mugs.

Tim's even encourages people to buy paper cups with their "roll up the rim" campaigns.

At least *Bucks pretends to be environmental now with their recycle bins for lids and cups (although I have my doubts).

Not to mention that my homemade loose leaf tea costs about 1/10th the price and is about 4 times better.

Personally, I think civilization started to fall apart with the introduction of disposable razors.

One thing I definately notice being fairly wide spread is this type of small portion plastic packaging.

It has pretty much now reached "bite-size" in scale, and the consumers have embraced it. Hell you dont even have to cut cheese any more... You can buy tiny little byte size cubes all individually plastic wrapped, and you can buy an increasing ammount of other products like this as well.

Eventually water will probably be sold in tiny little pre-packaged "sips", and the consumers will buy hundreds of millions of them. I noticed more and more drink companies now selling these tiny little 2 inch high plastic bottles now.

Oh well... Stupid people do stupid things. Banning this stuff is not gonna happen. North Americans would take to the streets if they lose their little "cheesy bites".

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Personally, I think civilization started to fall apart with the introduction of disposable razors.

Just incidentally, as something that a few men like myself might find interesting, I bought a six pack of disposable razors for seven dollars, and after use I put the blade in olive oil.

Razors are not dulled by facial hair, or at least, not for years (think about it! obviously!), but are dulled by the reactions of water and subsequent air.

Ten months, and I'm on my second blade, shaving six times a week. As sharp as brand new.

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--Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007

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...Today we have ( an example),disposable water bottles which pretty much sums up much of the present generations wasteful attitude. But, the same one pitching a water bottle is frequently the one willing to lecture on global warming..

Well, you'll only get a thorough mocking from me when it comes to global warming, and it is based on the exact same principles that make bottled water so popular....choice and economics. I can get a 36-count case of my favorite bottled water or a close substitute for about $4.00 +tax or about 12 cents per 500ml bottle. My time to fetch inferior tasting municipal water from a tap with washable glassware or even disposable cups is worth more than that. Even using a fridge door cold water dispenser does not tip the time/value proposition (because of portability).

The plastic bottled water container has a cap that I can re-use to extend the product's utility throughout the day, and it has an unopened shelf life of about two years. Some people are happy to schlepp their own water around in re-usable containers, but that means more maintenance time.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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Who are you calling stupid?

Actually, my father. He buys bottled water for home use, and I've told him that I think it's stupid.

As for taking something on the bus with you:

You can buy bottled pop. Bottled juice. Bottled beer. Bottled BBQ sauce. Why not Bottled water? Why is that such a crime?

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I do buy bottled water. It costs almost nothing, something like 4 bucks for a case. I only drink it at night. I keep a bottle by my bed in case I get thirsty. Why not use tap water? Because I don't like the taste of tap water when it's warm. Mind you, not all bottled water tastes good when it's warm either. I've poured entire cases down the drain because I didn't like the aftertaste.

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I do buy bottled water. It costs almost nothing, something like 4 bucks for a case. I only drink it at night. I keep a bottle by my bed in case I get thirsty. Why not use tap water? Because I don't like the taste of tap water when it's warm. Mind you, not all bottled water tastes good when it's warm either. I've poured entire cases down the drain because I didn't like the aftertaste.

Thats why youll appreciate the new NightSips™ 2 ounce plastic bottle coming to a store near you! No sense in letting a 12 ounce bottle of water get all warm on the bedside table when you can have just the right size tiny plastic packaged portion!

I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger

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It might, IF you don't close the lid b4 flushing. Otherwise there is a lot of possible (misted fecal)contamination in the room. So I've been led to believe.

:)

Since somewhere between 95% and 100% of people keep their uncapped toothbrushes in the bathroom, it would appear the risk of "fecal mist contamination" is not a serious issue. The tap water in there is unlikely to give you e. coli.

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