bush_cheney2004 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 In the US, you see, there is so much choice that they can even choose leaders of other countries in the world: Chile, the Philliplines, Iraq, Afghanistan. Oh come now...don't be so modest. Canada got to un-pick the democratically elected president of Haiti. Salute! Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Oh come now...don't be so modest. Canada got to un-pick the democratically elected president of Haiti. Salute! I'd say they had a hand in choosing the leaders of Iraq and Afghanistan, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 I'd say they had a hand in choosing the leaders of Iraq and Afghanistan, too. Yes...but it's funny how they always get amnesia about such things. Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleeding heart Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 (edited) That's a good question: Who was worse, Pinochet or Allende? Like I said, the most reasonable way to answer such a question is to determine who objectively hurt the most people. You seem to believe that the speculative future evils of an Allende regime--wholly unproven, and based on hypotheticals--is worse than the actual, real-world performance of Pinochet. Under this mehtod of measurement, anyone could be hypothetically better or worse than anyone else...and we'd determine this based on opinion rather than on objective reality. In short, your own underlying thesis here demolishes your own argument as quickly as anyone else's. IMHO, people in civilized societies are never forced to choose between such extremes - because in a true democracy, people are free to choose. The "true democracy" was the legal election of Allende, not the violent dictatorship of Pinochet. Edited April 8, 2012 by bleeding heart Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Yes...but it's funny how they always get amnesia about such things. Amnesia wasn't a problem with some when it came time to talk contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Why are you addressing me with this ? This is getting to be rediculous. Everytime someone addresses another (like I replied to your post) ... there seems to be a negative connotation to it. If you don't want to be addressed, perhaps don't post? You do have a choice there. Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 (edited) Like I said, the most reasonable way to answer such a question is to determine who objectively hurt the most people. You seem to believe that the speculative future evils of an Allende regime--wholly unproven, and based on hypotheticals--is worse than the actual, real-world performance of Pinochet. Under this mehtod of measurement, anyone could be hypothetically better or worse than anyone else...and we'd determine this based on opinion rather than on objective reality. In short, your own underlying thesis here demolishes your own argument as quickly as anyone else's. The "true democracy" was the legal election of Allende, not the violent dictatorship of Pinochet. It was Pinochet that said soomething along the lines of "Democracy is the incubator of Communism!"... 'cause Augie was all about "freedom" of choice.... Edited April 8, 2012 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 This is getting to be rediculous. Everytime someone addresses another (like I replied to your post) ... there seems to be a negative connotation to it. If you don't want to be addressed, perhaps don't post? You do have a choice there. You said I think I have a choice, but I didn't say I had a choice. You seem to be thinking I am on a different side of the argument. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Oh come now...don't be so modest. Canada got to un-pick the democratically elected president of Haiti. Salute! I'd say they had a hand in choosing the leaders of Iraq and Afghanistan, too. Like clockwork. Quote "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." --Thomas Jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 I came across this today and I thought I would share it. This is what the "freedom" to choose looks like. Quote "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." --Thomas Jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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