jbg Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Hey I figured since you have a sence of imagination I might as well put the cherry on the cake! Or show you how to have some fun with the imagination. WWWTT But seriously there are some linguistic differences between our countries. Granted, Canadian is a form of English. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
cybercoma Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Is Mulcair going to surrender his French citizenship? Or is Canada to have a PM in Waiting who is the citizen of another country? These sorts of things might matter to Americans and Conservatives, but Mulcair has a proven his loyalty to Canada through two referenda in Quebec and by ending the federal separatists' reign in Quebec. Quote
jbg Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 i won't vote for a party who's leader has dual citizenship, unless he renounces it I'm not voting NDP, or Greens since May is American that leaves the liberals And I won't vote for the Liberals, the NDP or the CPC? Or the Green Party for that matter. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
cybercoma Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 (edited) Any news yet if Harper has congratulated Mulcair yet? WWWTT Rae congratulated him on his win and Harper called him an opportunist, amongst other things. Stephen Harper can't help but be classless and divisive. Edited March 25, 2012 by cybercoma Quote
jbg Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Why would we believe that when you also claim you're a "left-wing progressive" who is an ivy-league educated American lawyer with plenty of time to spend on a Canadian political forum?I went to an Ivy League undergraduate school. My law school, though supposedly Number 13 in the "Gorman" rankings was not Ivy League. I also will be honest and say that my law school is overrated.You're a CPC shill and you aren't fooling anybody.Call me on my (914) area code cell and find out. I'll leave you to continue with your Harper-endorsed talking points about Mulcair's dual citizenship. Again, is Mulcair a French citizen or not? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
stopstaaron Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 And I won't vote for the Liberals, the NDP or the CPC? Or the Green Party for that matter. yeah i know, you live in the U.S Quote Don't ban me bro. Oh behave, I'll behave. I'll be a good little boy.
stopstaaron Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 and by ending the federal separatists' reign in Quebec. Nah, that was all Layton's personality and his willingness to fight through cancer so that he can fight for Canadians, it had nothing to do with Mulcair Quote Don't ban me bro. Oh behave, I'll behave. I'll be a good little boy.
WWWTT Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 But seriously there are some linguistic differences between our countries. Granted, Canadian is a form of English. I am sorry jgb.I have had a long day today and I was just having a laugh.Thanks for giving me the opportunity! Im off to bed now. Talk again soon. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
August1991 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Posted March 25, 2012 (edited) In my opinion,if Mulcair brings the NDP towards the centre they will take the place of the Liberal party,and position themsleves for the most growth...At least that's the theory...It would be a mistake to claim that the Liberal party brought Canadians together.That may have been the case historically,however,since the '80 election,the Liberals have been an Eastern establishment/urban party...Even that's fading fast now...What was the quote from Trudeau? "Eff the West,we'll take the rest!" Jack, you raise a good point. Can Mulcair gain the support of the Western Left?It's interesting that the last three surviving NDP leadership candidates were all Easterners. Cullen presented himself as someone from northern BC but in this, Cullen struck me as a poseur - just like Martin Singh. Edited March 25, 2012 by August1991 Quote
cybercoma Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Nah, that was all Layton's personality and his willingness to fight through cancer so that he can fight for Canadians, it had nothing to do with MulcairIt's funny when you make things up out of nowhere just to parade your biases all over the forum. Layton didn't announce he was still battling cancer until after the election (July 25 to be exact). Quote
stopstaaron Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 It's funny when you make things up out of nowhere just to parade your biases all over the forum. Layton didn't announce he was still battling cancer until after the election (July 25 to be exact). I'm talking about the first time Quote Don't ban me bro. Oh behave, I'll behave. I'll be a good little boy.
stopstaaron Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Mulcair isnt going to be able to handle Harper. sorry but I just don't see it Quote Don't ban me bro. Oh behave, I'll behave. I'll be a good little boy.
cybercoma Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 I'm talking about the first time No one knew he was fighting cancer during the election campaign. Quote
Jack Weber Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Jack, you raise a good point. Can Mulcair gain the support of the Western Left? It's interesting that the last three surviving NDP leadership candidates were all Easterners. Cullen presented himself as someone from northern BC but in this, Cullen struck me as a poseur - just like Martin Singh. I remember after the election in the Spring,someone on TV bringing up the theory that as the NDP moves to the more electable centre,they had a very good chance of ressurecting the "Trudeau coalition" of '68... That was while Layton was alive...During the leadership campaign,Mulcair was attacked for basically not paying continuaous hommage to the Western NDP legacy of Tommy Douglas and and Alan Blakeney etc...And for trying to change the party...etc...Niki Ashton went after him on that one during the debate in Manitoba... The fact of the matter is that the NDP have been shut out of Saskatchewan,the birthplace of Tommy Douglas form of bread and butter social democracy,for a long time.It would seem that the old ways simply are not working for them anymore and they have to try a different approach if they really want national electoral success.I think that's what Mulcair is talking about...If they can do that,and supply a viable option for folks out there,instead of shouting Tommy Douglas and Medicare,they have a realistic shot at getting to where they want to go... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Jack Weber Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Mulcair isnt going to be able to handle Harper. sorry but I just don't see it If Mulcair can't handle Harper,how would a wimp like Cullen have faired? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
stopstaaron Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 If Mulcair can't handle Harper,how would a wimp like Cullen have faired? Cullen is no wimp, Cullen is 39 years old, he's more in touch with the youth of this country than Harper or Mulcair are Quote Don't ban me bro. Oh behave, I'll behave. I'll be a good little boy.
Jack Weber Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Cullen is no wimp, Cullen is 39 years old, he's more in touch with the youth of this country than Harper or Mulcair are Says you...And he did'nt win... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Smallc Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 (edited) Reasonable? Pragmatic? Sorry, whole swaths of Canada, both French and English but in particular in the West, could not identify with Martin or Chretien. Both were simply too far to the left. Martin, too far left? Chretien, not pragmatic? Are you smoking something. Edited March 25, 2012 by Smallc Quote
Jack Weber Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Martin? Too far left? Chretien, not pragmatic? Are you smoking something. I guess August feels Rick Santorum is a middle of the road centrist? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
August1991 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Posted March 25, 2012 Martin, too far left? Chretien, not pragmatic? Are you smoking something.Welcome to the new Canada.I guess August feels Rick Santorum is a middle of the road centrist?We Canadians do things differently. In particular, our banks are different.On roule à notre manière chez nous. Quote
bleeding heart Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Martin, too far left? Chretien, not pragmatic? Are you smoking something. When Martin is deemed "too far left," we can see how perverse the paramaters of discussion can get. Quote “There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver." --Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007
mentalfloss Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 (edited) When Martin is deemed "too far left," we can see how perverse the paramaters of discussion can get. And the claim that ideology is delineated to the left. Edited March 25, 2012 by mentalfloss Quote
Newfoundlander Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 Paul Martin went to the left as Prime Minister, one could argue, but as finance minister he was fiscally conservative. Quote
TheNewTeddy Posted March 25, 2012 Report Posted March 25, 2012 I guess August feels Rick Santorum is a middle of the road centrist? I know people who hate Harper for being a "sell out to the left" Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
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