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Maybe he got the heart of a liberal? ;)

Or maybe he got The Grinches "two sizes too small!" heart.

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Once again - "It's better to remain silent and thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." Seriously. If ever there was any doubt in my mind, this post took care of it. The rest of my post is not directed at you - I'm telling you that just in case you think I'm interested in any further exchange with you. I'm not. Ever.

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This post exemplifies exactly the mindset I've been referring to. Outside interest in the U.S., complete focus on the U.S., is the norm, and apparently it's all good, but if an American or two happen to have an interest in Canada's role in all of this, we are either obsessed or now apparently suffering from "CDS." (I feel as if my IQ just went down twenty points by simply quoting something that ignorant). BUT. If Americans don't show an interest in Canada, and don't know anything about it, they are ignorant, arrogant, typical Americans.

Anyway. A response such as this simply adds weight to what I am saying. Nothing I said was refuted. Nothing I said can be refuted as it's the truth. So the personal attacks begin.

Canada was secretly involved in Iraq right from the beginning, but focus on the U.S. takes precedence. It's why I have no respect for those who are all over Cheney while not feeling the same disgust towards their own government. There's so much anger over Cheney's lies while nary a peep about their own government's lies. So much concern over the deaths attributed to Bush-Cheney, making it so much easier not to focus on the deaths their government is accountable for - and ironically, that's something that they at least have some say/input in. Yet by far the energy is all directed outward - at the U.S.; which would be bad enough, but we have some here defending Canada. For the very things they are all bent out of shape over regarding the U.S.

Furthermore, as I said, there was nary an ounce of concern over Iraqi deaths when it was at Saddam's hands and likely the concern over Afghan's deaths will end with U.S. withdrawal.

But so many here don't want to discuss that. Oh, no. It's so much easier to blame the U.S. and go one step further and insult me for my interest - that's a bad thing, evidently - and to personally attack me. It becomes all about me. Oh the power of an American voice; an American who has the desire, the gall, to know about, and question, Canada's role in these events. :D

:lol:

I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger

Guest American Woman
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Oh for Pete's sake, more of the same AW defensive nonsense, getting your back up like a porcupine when a Canadian criticizes the US.

Umm. You appear to be the one getting defensive, getting your back up like a porcupine because I criticized some of you for not caring about your own country's actions the way you do the U.S. Never did I say you shouldn't criticize the U.S. - never even insinuated it. My response was spot on - hardly the "defensive nonsense" you claim it is.

Who cares about the "moral high road".

A lot of Canadians. Did you miss that in my post? :rolleyes:

Your government killed hundreds of thousands of people based on lies. Deal with it.

Your country was right there helping, as it was lying to the Canadian public, telling you that Canada wasn't involved. Evidently a lot of you bought into the lies. I suggest you take your own advice. Deal with it.

Expect to get a little heat when that happens.

Again, take your own advice. Expect to take a little heat when Canada/Canadians pretend Canada wasn't involved/deny Canada's involvement/ downplay Canada's involvement as ya'll direct your anger and criticism towards the U.S. Learn to care about what your own country does as much as you do the U.S. Until you do, expect to keep taking a little heat.

And no, I'm not glad Saddam is dead, but I'm glad he's out of power.

So there is something good to be said.

I don't care if you have any respect for my or others' outrage.

And I don't care if you care or not. I'm simply stating my feelings, my opinion, same as you state yours. If you think I "care" about yours, think again. It's a discussion. I responded to what you had to say. It's what people on a political forum do.

I'm going to criticize anyone and any government I choose and there's nothing you or BC's or anyone else's whining can do to stop that.

Sounds as if you're the one who's whining - and I wouldn't be surprised if you were stamping your foot as you wrote your post, too. <_< The thing is, when I state my opinion, I'm not "whining" - nor did I accuse you of doing so when you were saying what you had to say.

Criticize or don't criticize to your heart's content - but expect to be called on it when your criticism is one sided and biased.

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Guest Derek L
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Excellent! Darth Cheney lives on. Maybe he got the heart of a liberal? ;)

More machine now than man, twisted and eviler :ph34r:

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So why hasn't PM Chretien been arrested yet?

Same reason your guys never did. They are part of the same club.

It's not....lying is not a crime. Eisenhower lied to the Germans before D-Day too.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/impeach122098.htm

The House of Representatives impeached the president of the United States yesterday for only the second time in American history, charging William Jefferson Clinton with "high crimes and misdemeanors" for lying under oath and obstructing justice to cover up an Oval Office affair with a young intern.

Depends on the lie.

Hell to pay? You mean no more Canadian TV?

Pitch the TV altogether, it's actually really nice after a while.

The USA never ratified the treaty, but Canada did. And Chretien the war criminal remains a free man, just like Cheney.

Membership has it's privelages.

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This is why he cancelled it. So he could recover from surgery

@BreakingNews: Former Vice President Dick Cheney recovering after undergoing heart transplant - Reuters

But instead we get a flurry from the media about the 'security concerns'. And people actually put trust in him?

Guest American Woman
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But instead we get a flurry from the media about the 'security concerns'. And people actually put trust in him?

Just because stopstaaron says that's why he cancelled doesn't mean that is why he cancelled. How was he supposed to know when he was going to receive a donor heart?

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Just because stopstaaron says that's why he cancelled doesn't mean that is why he cancelled. How was he supposed to know when he was going to receive a donor heart?

I was thinking the same thing....how would Cheney know when his number would come up for a matched heart? I guess VP Cheney is automatically untrustworthy but the late Jack Layton gets a pass when it comes to divulging such things. Typical.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

Guest American Woman
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He had the same heart condition and was on the waiting list when he spoke in Vancouver - didn't stop him from appearing. What would stop him, legitimately, is concern over whether or not he would be able to safely leave the building if a medical emergency were to arise. Waiting several hours as police in riot gear tried to get the situation under control would not be an option; that is definitely a security concern.

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Just because stopstaaron says that's why he cancelled doesn't mean that is why he cancelled. How was he supposed to know when he was going to receive a donor heart?

Hey that is what the 'media' reported initially correct? Sorry, what was the title of this thread again? What was the initial article again ???

Sure, it IS the reason. But not what we were told at the beginning. Why the need to lie?

Chickenshit Cheney is a freakin liar. But many of us already knew that.

Guest Peeves
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Hey that is what the 'media' reported initially correct? Sorry, what was the title of this thread again? What was the initial article again ???

Sure, it IS the reason. But not what we were told at the beginning. Why the need to lie?

Chickenshit Cheney is a freakin liar. But many of us already knew that.

He may be, but Clinton was proven to be.

Guest American Woman
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Hey that is what the 'media' reported initially correct? Sorry, what was the title of this thread again? What was the initial article again ???

Sure, it IS the reason. But not what we were told at the beginning. Why the need to lie?

Chickenshit Cheney is a freakin liar. But many of us already knew that.

"Chickenshit Cheney" didn't know he when he was going to get a heart. You do know that, right? That organ recipients don't know ahead of time when a matching organ is going to be available? The death of a matching donor isn't scheduled ahead of time. Just because a poster on this board is claiming that he cancelled so he could recover from heart transplant surgery doesn't make it so.

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When Cheney dies it will look like the celebration of Bin Ladens death in the streets .. except it would be like that all across the world

Don't ban me bro. Oh behave, I'll behave. I'll be a good little boy.

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"Chickenshit Cheney" didn't know he when he was going to get a heart. You do know that, right? That organ recipients don't know ahead of time when a matching organ is going to be available? The death of a matching donor isn't scheduled ahead of time. Just because a poster on this board is claiming that he cancelled so he could recover from heart transplant surgery doesn't make it so.

Well someone had to give him some heart, the cold killer that he is. After sending those troops to die all based on lies, .. really.. do you think this jerk should be on any list for organ donar? The mechanical one was not working anymore?? Could he not have just grown one in a lab with all his Haliburton Bucks and defence contract money while working at the CFR during his election campaign.

So now we have two things I guess. The real story of him needing a heart, or the other story where he thinks Canadians are dangerous.

Guest American Woman
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So now we have two things I guess. The real story of him needing a heart, or the other story where he thinks Canadians are dangerous.

As I've said repeatedly now - he did not say that "Canada/Canadians are too dangerous" - that is the media's take on it; the media's words. He said there were security concerns. Again. Those are two different things. So are you going to keep repeating the lie that he said/thinks "Canadians are dangerous" - as you accuse him of being a liar?

As for "the real story" - a poster on a web board said his heart surgery is the real reason he cancelled. That's the third time I'm repeating that now. You think a poster on this board speaks for Cheney??

As I said previously, he needed a heart when he was at his speaking engagement in Vancouver, too - that didn't cause him to cancel. Again. He didn't know he was going to be getting a heart at this point in time - so why would he cancel because of that? You think he has ESP? He cancelled for security reasons - then ended up getting a matching donor heart.

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When Cheney dies it will look like the celebration of Bin Ladens death in the streets .. except it would be like that all across the world

That's OK, because when Dick Cheney finally does die, he will be buried face down with his boots on, so that all his critics can kiss his ass! ;)

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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As I've said repeatedly now - he did not say that "Canada/Canadians are too dangerous" - that is the media's take on it; the media's words. He said there were security concerns. Again. Those are two different things. So are you going to keep repeating the lie that he said/thinks "Canadians are dangerous" - as you accuse him of being a liar?

Iraq.

As for "the real story" - a poster on a web board said his heart surgery is the real reason he cancelled. That's the third time I'm repeating that now. You think a poster on this board speaks for Cheney??

Not sure, do you? Cause, he has spoken for you in the past, the American citizen.

As I said previously, he needed a heart when he was at his speaking engagement in Vancouver, too - that didn't cause him to cancel. Again. He didn't know he was going to be getting a heart at this point in time - so why would he cancel because of that? You think he has ESP? He cancelled for security reasons - then ended up getting a matching donor heart.

Cheney and staff run for their lives, meanwhile in a classroom in Florida.

Yeah you are right, it does not make sense to me either.

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AW being a cheney apologist is no different than being an jihadist apologist

When did Cheney ever go to a school and start shooting people at random?

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That's OK, because when Dick Cheney finally does die, he will be buried face down with his boots on, so that all his critics can kiss his ass! ;)

That's fine, but the history books will not look kindly on Cheney's legacy

Don't ban me bro. Oh behave, I'll behave. I'll be a good little boy.

Guest Manny
Posted

When did Cheney ever go to a school and start shooting people at random?

I heard he shot a guy right in the face while hunting, a couple of years ago. Musta had an argument or something.

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