Jack Weber Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 Again, all you've demonstrated is that you do not understand what the term shill means. Shills GET paid. By definition they are NOT believers in a given cause, just guns for hire. Professional activists, for instance, are shills. No, I won't report you (I've never reported anyone). You're perfectly entitled to be as ignorant as you want. So... You're not even getting paid to be an idealogically driven mouthpiece??? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Moonlight Graham Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 Crazy story, despite that kid resigning they still need to do a full investigation as to who set it all up and punish them. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
olpfan1 Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 If this does get to the point that the uppermost echelons of the Harper Government were knowledgable or involved in voter surpression/nullification by deliberate and clandestine means,I do wonder if the Governor General has the perogative to dissolve a potentially disgraced majority government? he wouldn't do that, him and harper are chummy, the GG is compromised as is the RCMP Quote
Smallc Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 he wouldn't do that, him and harper are chummy, And? So? Does that keep you from doing your job? Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 What do we know about this kid that resigned? His name is Michael Sona from New Jersey, he is 23 years old Last election he was involved in controversy when he confronted people in his University of Guelph, he didn't believe it was legal for them to be voting early so he grabbed the ballot box and tried to walk away with it..not sure if he was escorted our or had just put it back A week a go he was hired by MP Eve Adams to work in her office He resigned last night However he is not linked to the robocalls yet and nobody knows why he resigned It should be curious though as to why he was hired just a week a go..did the CPC know this was going to happen? Were they tipped off? Did they hire him a week before this was leaked to the press just to put their fall guy in place? Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 And? So? Does that keep you from doing your job? If you're in the PMs back pocket you're not going to do anything to bring the government down If this man has any integrity he will call for by elections in the ridings which were affected which will be determined likely by Elections Canada Quote
Smallc Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 If you're in the PMs back pocket you're not going to do anything to bring the government down How is he in any way in Stephen Harper's pocket? He's Harper's boss, basically. Quote
cybercoma Posted February 25, 2012 Author Report Posted February 25, 2012 You're talking about a bunch of fake scandals that don't mean anything, that when presented with the "evidence", voters supported the CPC even more. Your feigned outrage doesn't exactly have alot of credibility on the matter... Sorry, but the contempt of Parliament was a serious issue for pundits. That the CPC were given a majority following it is a disgrace to Canadian politics and our political institutions. It sets the precedent that political parties are untouchable. They can break the rules all they want and they'll be rewarded for it. Quote
Jack Weber Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 How is he in any way in Stephen Harper's pocket? He's Harper's boss, basically. Well,he was appointed/selected by Mr. Harper... But so was Kevin Page and he certainly has'nt kowtowed to Harper... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Smallc Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Well,he was appointed/selected by Mr. Harper... True, he was appointed on the advice of Harper, but Harper can't do anything to him, so I don't see why he'd be in Harper's back pocket. Edited February 25, 2012 by Smallc Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 How is he in any way in Stephen Harper's pocket? He's Harper's boss, basically. Our last GG did everything harper asked Why should this be any different Quote
WWWTT Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 Sorry, but the contempt of Parliament was a serious issue for pundits. That the CPC were given a majority following it is a disgrace to Canadian politics and our political institutions. It sets the precedent that political parties are untouchable. They can break the rules all they want and they'll be rewarded for it. Man cybercoma give your a head a shake buddy!Don't fall for the bait man! Harpers' majority is courtesy of a changing of the guard(official opposition).His party is only proven against the week feeble crumbling liberals. This conservative party is proving to be the gift that just keeps giving...no matter how much the conservatives try to spin or deflect from this recent crime against democracy. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Evening Star Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 Sorry, but the contempt of Parliament was a serious issue for pundits. That the CPC were given a majority following it is a disgrace to Canadian politics and our political institutions. It sets the precedent that political parties are untouchable. They can break the rules all they want and they'll be rewarded for it. Tbf, just because the government was in contempt of Parliament doesn't mean that the public has to take Parliament's side in the dispute. Parliament has the right to demand anything they want and the government should oblige. They were found to be in contempt: they faced the consequences and lost a vote of confidence. However, even after recognizing this, the public is certainly entitled to decide that Parliament's demands were unreasonable and the government should be allowed to proceed with their actions. Quote
Guest Derek L Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Tbf, just because the government was in contempt of Parliament doesn't mean that the public has to take Parliament's side in the dispute. Parliament has the right to demand anything they want and the government should oblige. They were found to be in contempt: they faced the consequences and lost a vote of confidence. However, even after recognizing this, the public is certainly entitled to decide that Parliament's demands were unreasonable and the government should be allowed to proceed with their actions. Fair point, and if they were to continue to bring controversial legislation forward, like the surveillance fiasco, that the public (and the party in general) disagrees with they won’t be the Government past 2015.…….Like the old saying: Give them enough rope….. Edited February 25, 2012 by Derek L Quote
cybercoma Posted February 25, 2012 Author Report Posted February 25, 2012 Man cybercoma give your a head a shake buddy!Don't fall for the bait man! Harpers' majority is courtesy of a changing of the guard(official opposition).His party is only proven against the week feeble crumbling liberals. This conservative party is proving to be the gift that just keeps giving...no matter how much the conservatives try to spin or deflect from this recent crime against democracy. WWWTT I got a buddy, but not freekin. This means you're worked up, but not too worked up yet. Quote
CPCFTW Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 Tbf, just because the government was in contempt of Parliament doesn't mean that the public has to take Parliament's side in the dispute. Parliament has the right to demand anything they want and the government should oblige. They were found to be in contempt: they faced the consequences and lost a vote of confidence. However, even after recognizing this, the public is certainly entitled to decide that Parliament's demands were unreasonable and the government should be allowed to proceed with their actions. Great post from one of the bad guys... It's nice to see someone on the left finally post something that isn't blatantly partisan. Quote
Bryan Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Sorry, but the contempt of Parliament was a serious issue for pundits. PUNDITS, yes. Voters on the other hand saw it for what it really was, a cheap stunt, and punished the opposition for pulling it. Edited February 25, 2012 by Bryan Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Does this look like an innocent, fall guy to you or someone who would do anything to make sure his party won? These are pictures of Michael Sona during the controversial ballot grab at Guelph University you can see he is right angry http://guelphmercury.blogs.com/guelphvotes/2011/04/pictures-worth-a-thousand-words.html Edited February 25, 2012 by olpfan1 Quote
Bryan Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 Does this look like an innocent, fall guy to you or someone who would do anything to make sure his party won? These are pictures of Michael Sona during the controversial ballot grab at Guelph University you can see he is right angry http://guelphmercury.blogs.com/guelphvotes/2011/04/pictures-worth-a-thousand-words.html Nothing at all wrong with what Sona did in Guelph. He had every right and duty to stop the illegal voting. I wouldn't hesitate to do the same thing. Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 Sona with Flaherty http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01378/web-elxn-sona-f_1378089cl-8.jpg Sona with Harper http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/topstories/2012/02/24/li-sona-harper.jpg Sona with Marty Burke http://media.mmgdailies.topscms.com/images/bc/eb/824d520b45ccbf5a849c883e60ee.jpg Sona with a big ass gun http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pHIX4K8VMlY/Tbh9ojp_JAI/AAAAAAAAAGU/gFMj7V6P3-g/s1600/gunpic.JPG Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 Nothing at all wrong with what Sona did in Guelph. He had every right and duty to stop the illegal voting. I wouldn't hesitate to do the same thing. According to Elections Canada it was not illegal.. or did you usurp Elections Canada's authority? Quote
Bryan Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 According to Elections Canada it was not illegal.. or did you usurp Elections Canada's authority? It was illegal. EC did say so, even went to far as to explicitly ban anyone from holding such ballots again. They did allow the ballots cast to stand so that those who voted before the scam was shut down were not disenfranchised. Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) It was illegal. EC did say so, even went to far as to explicitly ban anyone from holding such ballots again. They did allow the ballots cast to stand so that those who voted before the scam was shut down were not disenfranchised. You seem to have been misinformed, it was done many times in the past at the university but the conservatives made a huge stink about it because most of the students voted liberal, and in no way did EC say what she did was illegal all they said was it was not pre-authorized http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/elections-canada-puts-end-to-special-ballot-voting/article1987880/ But the electoral body also ordered all returning officers to refrain from setting up on-campus stations to accept special-ballot votes, eliminating a potentially easy way for students to vote early during their busy final exam period. As in past years, Anne Budra, the Elections Canada returning officer for Guelph, had set up an on-campus polling station allowing students to cast their votes by special ballot, a system used for groups that are often underrepresented on election day Elections Canada spokesman John Enright said that although Ms. Budra’s efforts were “well-intentioned,” they were not preauthorized by Elections Canada, nor were the parties given enough warning. Special ballots can still be cast with returning officers. Edited February 25, 2012 by olpfan1 Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 To read all of Michael Sona's tweets go here http://topsy.com/twitter/michaelsona Quote
CPCFTW Posted February 25, 2012 Report Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Sona with Flaherty http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/01378/web-elxn-sona-f_1378089cl-8.jpg Sona with Harper http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/topstories/2012/02/24/li-sona-harper.jpg Sona with Marty Burke http://media.mmgdailies.topscms.com/images/bc/eb/824d520b45ccbf5a849c883e60ee.jpg Sona with a big ass gun http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pHIX4K8VMlY/Tbh9ojp_JAI/AAAAAAAAAGU/gFMj7V6P3-g/s1600/gunpic.JPG To read all of Michael Sona's tweets go here http://topsy.com/twitter/michaelsona Stalk much? Edited February 25, 2012 by CPCFTW Quote
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