olpfan1 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 Who's to say Liberals didn't get immigrants in the riding to vote when they were ineligible? I don't see any allegations of that other than from you, of course if you have proof I urge you to hand it to elections canada Quote
Boges Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 I don't see any allegations of that other than from you, of course if you have proof I urge you to hand it to elections canada High-larious What evidence have you put forward that the Tories were behind this? Or behind a broad Robo-calling scandal outside of Guelph for that matter? Quote
Jack Weber Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 Who's to say Liberals didn't get immigrants in the riding to vote when they were ineligible? Is this your best "Dean Del Mastro..Car Salesman At Large!", attempt at throwing some feces up against a wall,trying to see how much of it actually sticks? Or is it just another take on The Great Del Mastro's attempt to try to explain how the Liberals were trying to supress their own vote? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
olpfan1 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 High-larious What evidence have you put forward that the Tories were behind this? Or behind a broad Robo-calling scandal outside of Guelph for that matter? I've already submitted the evidence to elections canada and I am not allowed to speak on that any further as theres an investigation underway Quote
Boges Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 I've already submitted the evidence to elections canada and I am not allowed to speak on that any further as theres an investigation underway So you've unearthed evidence yourself Woodwarlphan and Berolphanstein. Quote
capricorn Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 I've already submitted the evidence to elections canada and I am not allowed to speak on that any further as theres an investigation underway With an attitude like that, you'd be no fun in the opposition benches. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Boges Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) Is this your best "Dean Del Mastro..Car Salesman At Large!", attempt at throwing some feces up against a wall,trying to see how much of it actually sticks? Or is it just another take on The Great Del Mastro's attempt to try to explain how the Liberals were trying to supress their own vote? I'm not going to defend Dean Del Mastro. The most damning reports about this from the CPC are things they've claimed about the opposition that haven't been accurate like the calling centres in the US. But the truth is the opposition hasn't provided any convincing evidence regarding an overarching scandal either. Every day at QP they are just "throwing some feces up against the wall" as you put it and seeing what gains traction. Two recent polls have proven it hasn't gain much traction at all. And today's developments at Air Canada have taken this issue away from the front page. Edited March 8, 2012 by Boges Quote
capricorn Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 Two recent polls have proven it hasn't gain much traction at all. Hébert: Robocalls: Conservative support rock solid despite vote controversy Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
olpfan1 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 With an attitude like that, you'd be no fun in the opposition benches. I was only kidding haha Quote
capricorn Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 me too Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Jack Weber Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) I'm not going to defend Dean Del Mastro. The most damning reports about this from the CPC are things they've claimed about the opposition that haven't been accurate like the calling centres in the US. But the truth is the opposition hasn't provided any convincing evidence regarding an overarching scandal either. Every day at QP they are just "throwing some feces up against the wall" as you put it and seeing what gains traction. Two recent polls have proven it hasn't gain much traction at all. And today's developments at Air Canada have taken this issue away from the front page. For the moment... There's nothing like The Dominatrix of Canada Corp.....Er,sorry,that's definately uncalled for...The Minister of Labour,Lisa Raitt,interferring yet again in the collective bargaining process under the guise of "protecting the fragile recovery" and this is the best pretext yet," health and safety issues"... Then again,I just say Deano do his act,yet again,on P&P... Edited March 8, 2012 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
cybercoma Posted March 8, 2012 Author Report Posted March 8, 2012 Hébert: Robocalls: Conservative support rock solid despite vote controversy People gave them a majority government in spite of them being found guilty of engaging in illegal election financing and being in contempt of parliament too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35TbGjt-weA Quote
Boges Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) For the moment... There's nothing like The Dominatrix of Canada Corp.....Er,sorry...The Minister of Labour,Lisa Raitt,interferring yet again in the collective bargaining process under the guise of "protecting the fragile recovery" and this is the best pretext yet," health and safety issues"... How sexist of you. The government is consistent on this. Air Canada is important to Canada's economy so they'll try to keep it going as long as it can. Today they didn't force them back to work but they delayed any work stoppage until after March Break. That's very pragmatic considering how many Canadians would be effected by a work stoppage on one of the busiest travel periods of the year. Air Canada is getting beat down by its competitors, it can't compete like it used to but it still is Canada's only truly international Airline. But that's a different thread. Edited March 8, 2012 by Boges Quote
Boges Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) People gave them a majority government in spite of them being found guilty of engaging in illegal election financing and being in contempt of parliament too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35TbGjt-weA Sorta feel that way about Ontario giving McDalton another mandate. But whatcha gonna do? Speaking of which, when people bitch about Harper getting a majority with 39% popular vote. Dalton McGuinty came one seat short of a majority and only receive a percentage point or two more popular support than the Hudak PCs. The system works both way. Edited March 8, 2012 by Boges Quote
Jack Weber Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 How sexist of you. The government is consistent on this. Air Canada is important to Canada's economy so they'll try to keep it going as long as it can. Today they didn't force them back to work but they delayed any work stoppage until after March Break. That's very pragmatic considering how many Canadians would be effected by a work stoppage on one of the busiest travel days of the year. Air Canada is getting beat down by its competitors, it can't compete like it used to but it still is Canada's only truly international Airline. But that's a different thread. Erm...Yeah... And it's definately thread drift... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Topaz Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 You know there's so much "stuff" coming in on election day, even outside of the robo calls, that the election was not done fairly, and I can't see why EC will have to call for another election sooner than the 2015. Even if the Tories are innocence, things done before and during the election are very questionable and that the Toires may not have won Ontario, Toronto, especially. Quote
Boges Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) You know there's so much "stuff" coming in on election day, even outside of the robo calls, that the election was not done fairly, and I can't see why EC will have to call for another election sooner than the 2015. Even if the Tories are innocence, things done before and during the election are very questionable and that the Toires may not have won Ontario, Toronto, especially. Dude you have no evidence for this. Who's throwing feces against the wall? I haven't heard anyone call for a new election in MSM, even the Star and the CBC. Does EC even have the power to call another election? To even approach that being needed you'd have to prove the Tories cheated and won in 30 or more ridings. Edited March 8, 2012 by Boges Quote
Boges Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) Call me cynical, but I don't think it would make a damn bit of difference. If people will give a party that is found in contempt of Parliament a majority government less than a year later, then this sure as hell isn't gonig to make a damn bit of difference. The voting public set an abhorrent precedent in the last election. Was In and Out even an issues the other parties made a big deal about? I doubt it because people didn't really want to hear about news from two elections past. They wanted to hear about the economy. The three main things the Liberals raged about were the Jails, Corporate Taxes and the F-35's. That got them nowhere nationally. But people on this site still bitch about those issues as if John Q Public cares. Edited March 8, 2012 by Boges Quote
Smallc Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 Contempt of parliament is really nothing. I'm not sure why you're so hung up on it. Quote
Jack Weber Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) Contempt of parliament is really nothing. I'm not sure why you're so hung up on it. Sorry John,but it actually is a big deal...At least a 400 year big deal...Parliament is supreme,particularily in a minority situation... The problem,as I saw it,was that the idea was a little too arcane for most people to grasp... Edited March 8, 2012 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
olpfan1 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 Sorry John,but it actually is a big deal...At least a 400 year big deal...Parliament is supreme,particularily in a minority situation... The problem,as I saw it,was that the idea was a little too arcane for most people to grasp... It was more of a partisan thing from the ndp, liberals & bloc, it wasn't like the courts found him in contempt I say we stop focusing on that and focus on the current sins of the government Quote
Smallc Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 Sorry John,but it actually is a big deal...At least a 400 year big deal...Parliament is supreme,particularily in a minority situation... The problem,as I saw it,was that the idea was a little too arcane for most people to grasp... I agree with you that in theory, it's a big deal, but I also agree with the below. The Contempt of Parliament charge, was, in this case, a very political thing. It was more of a partisan thing from the ndp, liberals & bloc, it wasn't like the courts found him in contempt I say we stop focusing on that and focus on the current sins of the government Quote
Jack Weber Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 It was more of a partisan thing from the ndp, liberals & bloc, it wasn't like the courts found him in contempt I say we stop focusing on that and focus on the current sins of the government I'm sorry,(and Toadbrother would agree with me),but that's not the historical truth of the matter... I agree that most people won't take the time to understand that,but it's the truth... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Smallc Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 I'm sorry,(and Toadbrother would agree with me),but that's not the historical truth of the matter... It may not be the truth in most cases, but in this case, it was. For most of Canada's governing history, we haven't had minority governments, and so things like the contempt charge of the last parliament didn't usually happen. Quote
capricorn Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 People gave them a majority government in spite of them being found guilty of engaging in illegal election financing and being in contempt of parliament too. Absolutely, I can see how rabid anti-Harper/Conservatives would be perplexed over this turn of events. They simply cannot understand it. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
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