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[Argus]

Sure, assuming a lie is a lie is a lie. You have to admit that calling voters on election day to tell them that their has been moved, when indeed it had not been, is one of the sleaziest most underhanded things ever done. Not only that but lies about what you're going to implement in a budget is orders of magnitude less than interfering with the electoral process.

Sorry, but how is lying about what you intend to do that much less important than this? Lying about your plans actually DOES impact the election in a substantial way. There's no evidence this did.

[Argus]

Its Harper in charge so don't count on it

I emailed the GG asking him to call for elections in the ridings

we'll see if he has any integrity., this is a national crisis

and its his duty to act

:lol:

[Argus]

Call me cynical, but I don't think it would make a damn bit of difference. If people will give a party that is found in contempt of Parliament a majority government less than a year later, then this sure as hell isn't gonig to make a damn bit of difference. The voting public set an abhorrent precedent in the last election.

Found in contempt of parliament? Now who here DOESN'T hold parliament in contempt?

[olpfan1]

:lol:

laugh all you want but this won't be going away, its about to make international news.. i saw it already on bbc (tv)

wont be long before cnn has it, and if there is an american link in this

you can expect things to domino for harper

and if an election is held say goodbye to your majority

[cybercoma]

Found in contempt of parliament? Now who here DOESN'T hold parliament in contempt?

And who here is an MP?

[Topaz]

Question, what PM would do anything to get Alberta's oil exported? What PM would bribe an MP for their vote? These Tories are worse than Mulroney's gang.

[olpfan1]

Question, what PM would do anything to get Alberta's oil exported? What PM would bribe an MP for their vote? These Tories are worse than Mulroney's gang.

yeah.. Mulroney punished his mps and ministers when they got caught doing something bad

harper sticks up for them and rewards them!!!'

Edited February 24, 2012 by olpfan1

[Bryan]

laugh all you want but this won't be going away, its about to make international news.. i saw it already on bbc (tv)

wont be long before cnn has it, and if there is an american link in this

you can expect things to domino for harper

and if an election is held say goodbye to your majority

Lefties in this country have been saying that for years. The louder they cry foul, the stronger the CPC support gets.

I wonder how the NDP would do the second time around, especially with Nycole Turmel at the helm for the last 7 months. Yeah, I'm for that idea.

An election with Nycole Turmel and Bob Rae as the opposition leaders? YES PLEASE!!!

Edited February 24, 2012 by Bryan

[olpfan1]

theyd be bi elections not a full scale election of the whole country

[Evening Star]

But of course the NDP would never do anything like that.

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/02/15/liberal-mp-accuses-ndp-of-dirty-tricks

This is the key sentence from that article:

But St-Denis couldn't explain which law she thought had been broken by the New Democrats.

[olpfan1]

There is also a difference when you screw with a traitor, if you are elected as ndp but move to the liberals right after

you should accept the consequences of your backstabbing

Not that I agree with that kind of thinking, thats just how life works

With this robo calling there was no reason for it other than to cheat

Edited February 24, 2012 by olpfan1

[CPCFTW]

On The Wire the drug dealers would drive 8 hours away sometimes to buy (burners) which are disposable cell phones

They are harder to get wire tapped and once you are done you break the phone and throw it away

This is what crime syndicates do in real life, they drive or fly to a distant city and buy burners

Can you stop referencing the Wire? It's embarrassing to read.

"In Harry Potter, Snape kills Dumbledore so obviously the conservatives could kill people indiscriminately!!!"

Edited February 24, 2012 by CPCFTW

[olpfan1]

Understood, but that's not what was implyed.

These conservatives have yet to be open and honest so I can't see them agreeing to any bi elections

Conservative voters are losing faith in the cpc.. they might just not vote

so unless an election iis forced it will have to be something we remember for next election

shame really

hope i wake up and theres developments

[CPCFTW]

Conservative voters are losing faith in the cpc..

No we're not. That's what you guys said last election when you forced another election and Canadians gave Harper a majority. Canadians don't want yearly elections no matter how much the opposition huffs and puffs that it isn't fair that they aren't in power.

Edited February 24, 2012 by CPCFTW

[scribblet]

I assure you I'm not 'scurred'. I have no doubt the Tories would win again, but the point is you're making a mountain out of a mole hill. There's no evidence this had any effect on the election at all.

So far that's what I'm reading too, I don't see the CBC making a list of other parties using the same firm.

As far as I'm concerned this is nothing but an ongoing attempt to delegitimize a duly elected majority government and unfortunately facts won't count when the issue is resolved. NDP Martin allready did the damage by framing the issue ahead of any investigation and the CBC continues screaming and pushing the 'fraud' meme. This as all again, supposition and gossip with no facts whatsoever, but the usual culprits rush to judgement first, because it's in their interests to damage the Tories by flinging mud which they know can stick, regardless of the outcome.

IMO Mr. Harper should hire a private investigator to clear this up. I'm also pretty sure that the media knows who the scurillious twitterer was but isn't revealing it, but you'll bet if they find out who this is, they will.

[Topaz]

No we're not. That's what you guys said last election when you forced another election and Canadians gave Harper a majority. Canadians don't want yearly elections no matter how much the opposition huffs and puffs that it isn't fair that they aren't in power.

Its one thing to win an election, its another to rig it to win. This is Canada and we won't allow that type of election here and no matter how Tory supporters look at it, 60% didn't vote for the Tories. Beside, would you want a party to govern if they rigged the election? Please answer. Do you stand for truth and rspectability in elections or the Conservative/Reform/Alliance/ Party?

[cybercoma]

IMO Mr. Harper should hire a private investigator to clear this up.

Hell no. Harper should not hire his own personal private investigator to clear this up. There should be an independent public inquiry into what happened and if there was election fraud, the perpetrators should be punished accordingly.

[Michael Hardner]

This is getting old. 60% didn't vote for the Tories, but they won more seats than the other parties combined. This is how our system works in this country. There didn't seem to be an issue with it when the Libs took advantage of a non-majority majority.

I agree with you. Some people advocate for a wholesale change to how seats are allocated but I think that's a severe change. This is for another thread, though.

[Shakeyhands]

Hell no. Harper should not hire his own personal private investigator to clear this up. There should be an independent public inquiry into what happened and if there was election fraud, the perpetrators should be punished accordingly.

But how would Harper control the resulting findings if it wasn't his own investigator?

ADSCAM!!!!!!

[GostHacked]

Hell no. Harper should not hire his own personal private investigator to clear this up. There should be an independent public inquiry into what happened and if there was election fraud, the perpetrators should be punished accordingly.

Unfortunately if anyone is brought up on charges, the whole process will get bogged down in beurocracy taking to long and costing the taxpayers MORE money for an investigation that will only catch the small time criminals and not the ones who actually did the crime. I can get behind them getting punished, but we've seen it before, it won't mean much.

[capricorn]

This is getting old. 60% didn't vote for the Tories, but they won more seats than the other parties combined. This is how our system works in this country. There didn't seem to be an issue with it when the Libs took advantage of a non-majority majority.

There's also the fact that only 60% of eligible voters cast their vote. Who's to say which party the other 40% support.

[CPCFTW]

Its one thing to win an election, its another to rig it to win. This is Canada and we won't allow that type of election here and no matter how Tory supporters look at it, 60% didn't vote for the Tories. Beside, would you want a party to govern if they rigged the election? Please answer. Do you stand for truth and rspectability in elections or the Conservative/Reform/Alliance/ Party?

I can't believe I'm dignifying this drivel with a response. No matter how you look at it, 40% has been the threshold for a majority party for a long time. Stop bringing that nonsense up.

"Blah election blah rigging blah"... that's all CPC voters will hear. Some wild speculation from the left wing media isn't comparable to being held in contempt of parliament. All's fair in love, war, and politics. Everyone knows that politicians are slimeballs. Canada is waking up to the realization that you should just vote for the least slimy one (or the one who will have the least impact on your wallet). The Trudeau "nation-building" era is over.

Wake me up when the next lefty fabricated "scandal" comes around.

Edited February 24, 2012 by CPCFTW

[CPCFTW]

There's also the fact that only 60% of eligible voters cast their vote. Who's to say which party the other 40% support.

Please don't remind them...

In their world, every single CPC supporter turned up at the polls. Obviously, the 40% who didn't show up would have all voted for a united left party along with all NDP and Liberal voters.

[capricorn]

Wake me up when the next lefty fabricated "scandal" comes around.

Don't blink.

[scribblet]

My speculation is the person(s) involved will be identified as a Conservative campaign worker in one the 8 ridings, perhaps the Guelph riding as this appears to have the most activity.

Just read this morning but didn't keep the link, that they allready have identified a young campaign worker, but the damage is allready done with the NDP and the CBC in full tilt - destroy Harper - mode. They have been furiously slinging mud while allowed to frame the narrative before fact finding, they have been successful in their mudslinging, innuendo and gossip. No matter what facts are presented now, it's too late, judgement has been rendered.