Jack Weber Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Not really Jack. Lately, I don't have much respect for either of 'em! I don't really have any palatable choices, Jack. That's ok. I've lived a fair time so far and I've gotten used to it. Then you'll have to explain why,in a thread about the mounting evidence of the autocratic and ideologically driven nature of the federal Harper (majority) Government ,you went off on a rant about things that seem to perturb you about Mr. McGuinty's provincial Liberal government (no tm) in Ontario?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Then you'll have to explain why,in a thread about the mounting evidence of the autocratic and ideologically driven nature of the federal Harper (majority) Government ,you went off on a rant about things that seem to perturb you about Mr. McGuinty's provincial Liberal government (no tm) in Ontario?? because bill is a righty, he comes in these threads and tries to turn it around on the libs or dippers completely ignoring the topic of the thread, he wont admit it publicly but he is a harper loyalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 (edited) Bill a classic liberal is against big government yet Harpers government is the biggest in Canadas history yet you've defended it you've also defended the new measures against marijuana classic liberal is for no law against marijuana and you are also against the in site safe injection facility classic libs are for rehabilitation you are also for bombing iran which is not a classic lib stance you are no classic liberal you are a closet right winger Have you ever READ much of what I've posted? When have I ever said that I approve of Harper expanding government? I don't even approve much of Harper, except to say that I find the alternatives to be worse. As for the new Bill that involves marijuana, I must now believe you've never read a word I've posted and just pulled that out of your butt! I've been ranting in favour of marijuana legalization on MLW for years now. I put a lot of threads towards posters like Angus, telling them how I thought the Tories getting tough on pot users to be the stupidest thing they could possibly do, in effect handing a big club to the Opposition parties with which to bonk them on the head next election! I said a NUMBER of times that the new laws were stupid and political suicide. Now you tell me I defended them! I don't believe I've ever said ONE WORD about safe injection sites! Why would I? I simply don't care, other than the cost to my taxes. As a classic liberal I believe that we have the right to out and out poison ourselves, if that is our wish! Our bodies are OURS, not the State's! Rehab? Don't believe I've posted anything about that, either! Again, why would I? I believe that people have the right to get hooked on whatever they want. Rehab would cost us all far less in taxes than Prohibition. Bombing Iran? You might have me there. I perceive Iran to be a nuclear threat, if not now then in the very near future. I just don't see any other option but a first strike. Show me one that might WORK and maybe I'd change my mind. Tell me to just "be happy" and trust the fanatics who run Iran and sorry, I just can't. If a country doesn't appear to be a threat I would never support attacking it! Where in hell did you come up with all this? I want some of what YOU are smoking! Edited December 9, 2011 by Wild Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 (edited) Have you ever READ much of what I've posted? When have I ever said that I approve of Harper expanding government? I don't even approve much of Harper, except to say that I find the alternatives to be worse. As for the new Bill that involves marijuana, I must now believe you've never read a word I've posted and just pulled that out of your butt! I've been ranting in favour of marijuana legalization on MLW for years now. I put a lot of threads towards posters like Angus, telling them how I thought the Tories getting tough on pot users to be the stupidest thing they could possibly do, in effect handing a big club to the Opposition parties with which to bonk them on the head next election! I said a NUMBER of times that the new laws were stupid and political suicide. Now you tell me I defended them! I don't believe I've ever said ONE WORD about safe injection sites! Why would I? I simply don't care, other than the cost to my taxes. As a classic liberal I believe that we have the right to out and out poison ourselves, if that is our wish! Our bodies are OURS, not the State's! Rehab? Don't believe I've posted anything about that, either! Again, why would I? I believe that people have the right to get hooked on whatever they want. Rehab would cost us all far less in taxes than Prohibition. Bombing Iran? You might have me there. I perceive Iran to be a nuclear threat, if not now then in the very near future. I just don't see any other option but a first strike. Show me one that might WORK and maybe I'd change my mind. Tell me to just "be happy" and trust the fanatics who run Iran and sorry, I just can't. If a country doesn't appear to be a threat I would never support attacking it! Where in hell did you come up with all this? I want some of what YOU are smoking! Nice!!! But remember,he does'nt celebrate anything...And he's happy!!! Edited December 9, 2011 by Jack Weber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Its funny seeing Right wingers freak out after being exposed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Nice!!! But remember,he does'nt celebrate anything...And he's happy!!! I should keep my cool better, Jack. It's just that sometimes a bozo just so flabbergasts me that I react! I truly think this guy is not in the real world! He lives in a fantasy and just spits out whatever dream he has and calls it reason or evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 The fact that a " classic liberal" will vote for the Reformer Tories is enough evidence to call bullshiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 (edited) The fact that a " classic liberal" will vote for the Reformer Tories is enough evidence to call bullshiot Once again, you live in a cartoon! One of the most important planks in the Reformer platform was that an MP should represent the wishes of the majority of his constituents, not those of himself or his party. That's populist democracy! No other party before or since has championed that idea! Including the present CPC! What's more, Reform attracted a LOT of not just Liberal but NDP supporters! I suppose you're going to try to tell me that they ALL were closet right wing goons! Where have you gotten your political views? Got drunk a few times with some university students from the Junior Socialist Club? You all wiled away the hours making high school jokes about conservatives? Just because a joke got a laugh doesn't make it historical fact. You really should open a book sometime! Or even spend a couple of evenings googling some political history. It seems every time you make a post you get farther and farther out there! Keep it up and you'll be the first man to reach Mars! Edited December 9, 2011 by Wild Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 (edited) So you are saying many ndp and liberals are now tories? what are you smoking? Edited December 9, 2011 by olp1fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Then you'll have to explain why,in a thread about the mounting evidence of the autocratic and ideologically driven nature of the federal Harper (majority) Government ,you went off on a rant about things that seem to perturb you about Mr. McGuinty's provincial Liberal government (no tm) in Ontario?? So harper is the 1st ideologically PM ever. It was alright for trudeau to totally chaneg the country's landscape and without debate with his multiculture policies. But he was a liberal ,so that is ok. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 So you are saying many ndp and liberals are now tories? what are you smoking? You just have no sense of logic at all, do you? I guess I have to use capitals. I NEVER SAID MANY NDP AND LIBERALS ARE NOW TORIES! GO BACK AND READ MY WORDS AGAIN! I SAID THAT MANY OF THEM JOINED REFORM! REFORM WAS NOT THE OLD PC PARTY! IT IS NOT THE PRESENT CPC! WHEN THE CPC WAS FORMED THE OLD PCS TOOK OVER POWER AND THE PRESENT PARTY HAS NOT SHOWN ANYTHING AT ALL OF THE OLD REFORM PHILOSOPHY! NO DOUBT THOSE REFORM SUPPORTERS WHO CAME FROM THE NDP AND LIBERALS HAVE GONE BACK TODAY. BTW, IS ENGLISH YOUR SECOND LANGUAGE? OR DO YOU HAVE A READING DISABILITY? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Enough! Back to the 'ignore' list! It's not worth the raise in blood pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Did your caps lock button get stuck? you might wanna fix that or one would think you are yelling at me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 So harper is the 1st ideologically PM ever. It was alright for trudeau to totally chaneg the country's landscape and without debate with his multiculture policies. But he was a liberal ,so that is ok. lol Speaking of ideologically driven rants... I'm shocked it took one of the booster club members this long to trot out the dreaded spectre of Pierre Trudeau!!! This sort of confirms what I think the real "goal" of the Harper (majority) Government is...Namely do it's level best to rid this country of any remnants of the deaded (at least to them) Trudeau governments By the way,could you point out anywhere where I've said everything Pierre Trudeau did was A-OK??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 (edited) It was alright for trudeau to totally chaneg the country's landscape and without debate with his multiculture policies. But he was a liberal ,so that is ok. lol Such right wing revisionist views! *gasp!* Multiculturalism, made in Canada In 1971, Canada became the first modern state to establish multiculturalism as its national policy. In 1982 multiculturalism was written into the constitutional Charter of Rights and Freedoms. By the 1980s, Trudeau's project was embraced by all the major federal parties, and in 1988 the historic Multiculturalism Act was passed with nearunanimous consent.Canadian Multiculturalism Act The federal government, under Prime Minister Pierre Elliott Trudeau, declared in 1971 that Canada would adopt multicultural policy. Canada would recognize and respect its society included diversity in languages, customs, religions, and so on.[1] In 1982 multiculturalism was recognized by section 27 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The Canadian Multiculturalism Act was then enacted by Prime Minister Brian Mulroney. pwned! Edited December 9, 2011 by Shwa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Such right wing revisionist views! *gasp!* Multiculturalism, made in Canada . Canadian Multiculturalism Act pwned! Whoopsee... I think PIK just wants things to return to normal... Ya'know...Mackenzie Bowell "normal"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Whoopsee... I think PIK just wants things to return to normal... Ya'know...Mackenzie Bowell "normal"... It's posters like PIK who make me yearn for the good old days of Progressive Conservatives. Please. God. Bring back the federal PC's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 It's posters like PIK who make me yearn for the good old days of Progressive Conservatives. Please. God. Bring back the federal PC's! not too many people yearn for brian mulrooney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 not too many people yearn for brian mulrooney You would prefer Mackenzie Bowell??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 You would prefer Mackenzie Bowell??? I prefer none of the above I prefer someone who isnt yet known Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 not too many people yearn for brian mulrooney Well then that should tell you something shouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 I'd classify Bill as a right leaning libertarian... Yeah but what would you know about such leanings, aren't you as dead set against marijuana as any other social conservative? None if this right left lib con crap seems to mean anything anymore, everyone just seems to make it up as they go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Well then that should tell you something shouldn't it? it tells me not many people yearn for brian mulrooney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 it tells me not many people yearn for brian mulrooney I see. Abstracts are not your strong suite eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 I see. Abstracts are not your strong suite eh? It's going to be hard for you two to communicate then. Your thought process is so muddled up and bizarre that if he can't understand abstracts, he'll never understand a thing you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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