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All my guns are for hunting, I'm not much of a target shooter beyond sighting them in. But I reserve the right to defend myself in my own home by any and all means. Who are you to tell me that if some psycho comes kicking in my door I just have to sit there and take it? You do what you wnat in your house, I'll manage mine the way I see fit.

I think you should send a letter to the CFO of your province immediately with those sentiments. Let's see what happens then.

Your false bravado does nothing for the views that non-gun owners hold about us btw.

"They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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I think you should send a letter to the CFO of your province immediately with those sentiments. Let's see what happens then.

Your false bravado does nothing for the views that non-gun owners hold about us btw.

I have no idea what you are on about, or where you live, but I was brought up to believe I have the right to defend myself. Period. I don't own guns for self-defense, I own them to hunt with, but faced with an armed intruder I wouldn't throw sphagetti at them. You own guns, what would you do?

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I have no idea what you are on about, or where you live, but I was brought up to believe I have the right to defend myself. Period. I don't own guns for self-defense, I own them to hunt with, but faced with an armed intruder I wouldn't throw sphagetti at them. You own guns, what would you do?

Not sure, how could one know. I can say though that I wouldn't go all John Wayne. If you are storing your guns as per the regulations, which are sensible for the safety of everyone in the house IMHO, you most likely would be shot before being able to access one of your guns.

How about this, take precautions to keep the doors locked, install a monitored security solution, call 9-1-1...and don't be fooled by misplaced machismo... you'll most likely make it out alive!!!!!!!!

"They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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Exactly, which is the joke I was making. By the time you get your gun out of the safe, remove the trigger lock, get to the bullets and load, it's probably too late. Certainly equally as useful as calling 911. But then, considering how rare the occurrence of a home invasion is among society at large, I don't generally make plans for it.

Might be different if I lived out in "the boonies", and watched too many movies like "A Clockwork Orange"...

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Call 9-1-1...

I did that once when my neighbor showed up at my door with the crap kicked out of him following a home invasion. This was around one in the morning. The cops got there around four thirty, they'd been tied up somewhere else. So if you want to go that route, fine, but I am my own first line of defense. I'm not paranoid, I know the likelihood of being attacked in my own home is slim, the same as being attacked by a bear while out in the woods. But it does happen, and if it does I at least want a fighting chance. And if you think the boogy-man isn't real, go to unsolvedcanada.ca and spend an hour or two reading some of the stories. There are hundreds of cases of poor souls who probably thought, "Awww, that'll never happen to me."

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if you think the boogy-man isn't real, go to unsolvedcanada.ca and spend an hour or two reading some of the stories. There are hundreds of cases of poor souls who probably thought, "Awww, that'll never happen to me."

Not saying it couldn't happen, but hundreds of cases out of 35 million? Ehh.

In any case it still takes time to get to your guns as mentioned, so you'd be better off defending yourself with a good cast-iron frying pan...

If you're real worried about it you could keep a loaded gun under your pillow at night, to fend off said bogey men. Just make sure it's not the neighbour! More than a few have shot their friends

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Why don't they just ban illegal guns? No illegal guns, no problems!

His Blondness David Miller said that if people have legal guns in their homes people will likely steal them. :rolleyes:

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That's why you should always keep an unregistered gun too. If an intruder comes into your home, take your unregistered gun and shoot him dead. Then fill his pockets with ammo and use his dead hand to put fingerprints on the gun. Now, go call police. Tell them how you took away his gun and shot him with it. They will believe you because all your guns are registered. You will be a hero.

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Not saying it couldn't happen, but hundreds of cases out of 35 million? Ehh.

In any case it still takes time to get to your guns as mentioned, so you'd be better off defending yourself with a good cast-iron frying pan...

If you're real worried about it you could keep a loaded gun under your pillow at night, to fend off said bogey men. Just make sure it's not the neighbour! More than a few have shot their friends

The same argument about how unlikely it is to need a gun for self defence can be more easily used to argue that we don't need more gun control.

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In any case it still takes time to get to your guns as mentioned, so you'd be better off defending yourself with a good cast-iron frying pan...

OK, so everybody starts using fry pans for self defense. How long do you think it would take before you need a safety course and license to buy a fry pan. Then we can all spend billions to register every fry pan in Canada.

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OK, so everybody starts using fry pans for self defense. How long do you think it would take before you need a safety course and license to buy a fry pan. Then we can all spend billions to register every fry pan in Canada.

What a tired, old and silly argument.

"They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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If your guns are unloaded in a gun safe and trigger locked they arent going to be terribly usefull for self defense.

A baseball bat is ready in seconds.

If your big plan when faced with a home invasion is to defend the house with your properly stored long gun or shot gun, then youre going to be in big trouble if that ever happens.

I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger

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What a tired, old and silly argument.

Yes indeed. Today's T-Fal frying pans would hardly suffice, as a weapon for self defence. They are not a threat! But my old Grandma's cast iron, which she left to us in her will, now there is one fine utensil. It takes a full 5 minutes to heat up when you put it on the stove, but once it's hot, it'll cook anything you throw at it. You can cook on it all day! And if a bogey man ever came out from the closet, you could really brain him with that sucker.

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All my guns are for hunting, I'm not much of a target shooter beyond sighting them in. But I reserve the right to defend myself in my own home by any and all means. Who are you to tell me that if some psycho comes kicking in my door I just have to sit there and take it? You do what you wnat in your house, I'll manage mine the way I see fit.

What if you go psycho and think schoolkids are deer?

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And if a bogey man ever came out from the closet, you could really brain him with that sucker.

I hear that guy is never on par..... :lol:

"They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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I take it you lost that argument too?

yup, against a master debater like you! It's a silly argument friend, there's a big difference between the two. If you want to go with it, fine, but don't expect a serious response here.

"They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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Sometimes you make sense, and then sometimes you write stuff like this. Do you really expect me to take you seriously when I read comments like this?

You don't know very much about the nature of mental illness do you? It can strike anyone anywhere and sometimes suddenly, like any other disease people get. Mental illness will strike 20 to 25% of all Canadians in their lifetime. There is also an epidemic of age onset dementia coming at us.

I repeat, what if you suddenly become psychotic and decide to go...hunting?

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A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

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Keep in mind that this is just the first step. These people want all our guns

America wanted "Change" and they got it.

Bad analogy...Obama's gun control rhetoric is about identical to Romney's.

“There is a limit to how much we can constantly say no to the political masters in Washington. All we had was Afghanistan to wave. On every other file we were offside. Eventually we came onside on Haiti, so we got another arrow in our quiver."

--Bill Graham, Former Canadian Foreign Minister, 2007

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