DogOnPorch Posted November 28, 2011 Report Posted November 28, 2011 jews lived peaceful existence in islamic countries until the zionists began ethnic cleansing campaign in palestine...islamic lands have been refuge for the religiously persecuted for centuries, during the inquisition in europe where did the jews find shelter? ya that's right islamic lands... selective historical knowledge is boring... Bull Sheet. You forgot The Grand Mufti and his Jew hatred. But, of course you'd forget. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Post To The Left Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) Isn't it about time that 'we' stopped making Israel out to be the bad guy, when Arabs are killing (not just demolishing illegal shacks), citizens in Muslin countries that want the democracy 'Palestinians" enjoy in Israel and the occupied territories? Palestinians don't enjoy democracy in the occupied territories they are disenfranchised and denied basic human rights. When that happened in America it set off a bloody revolution to fight for their freedom but when it happens now, they're just terrorists who don't deserve their own country. I don't know why you try and justify the oppressive treatment of Palestinians with an argument like two wrongs make a right. Treatment by brutal foreign dictators should have zero influence on how a people are treated in another country. Palestinians living in the occupied territories shouldn't have to suffer the harsh Israeli apartheid system: military judges tasked with imposing order and meting out punishment in the West Bank and Gaza during more than 43 years of Israeli rule. Some are defensive about their role in the occupation, others proud. One judge admits knowing that interrogators were systematically beating the suspects. Overall, an uncomfortable truth emerges: while the judges had in mind a fair and lenient occupation, they ended up rubber-stamping measures that could not possibly square with international law—including land grabs, collective punishment, detention without trial, deportation, and torture.Yonatan Livni, who served as a judge from 1976 to 1999, suggests that wasn’t the case. “What are you asking me, if I knew about these things?” Livni says. “Of course.” When asked whether judges have the power to curtail abuses, Livni cuts to the heart of the problem: “Theoretically, you can write, you can complain, you can speak out. Practically speaking, no. You serve a system.” Another former judge describes helping the government make use of arcane Ottoman legislation to declare uncultivated areas of the West Bank as “dead land” that Israel could seize. The old law defines dead land as an area “far enough from the village that no one can hear the crow of the rooster when it’s at the center of the village.” By this law, Israel has managed to confiscate nearly one sixth the territory where it has built settlements. http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/11/27/israel-s-military-courts-exposed-in-new-documentary.html Edited November 29, 2011 by Post To The Left Quote
Post To The Left Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) First the Israel's seize land after Jewish Settler attacks drive off the Palestinian farmers then pro-settler judges seize through a number of dubious means including seizing it after Settlers have caused the land to be abandoned. Then to protect the settlement from an outraged Palestinian population the IDF seizes more land for roads, utilities, military outposts, etc. And the Palestinians are caught in a system where they have little if any rights under the apartheid occupation territories. The United Nations says the number of attacks by extremist Jewish settlers on Palestinians resulting in either injury or damage to property has roughly tripled since 2009.The UN says so far in 2011 around 10,000 Palestinian-owned olive trees have been destroyed or damaged in attacks by settlers. Jewish settlers from Itamar shout from behind a fence as Palestinian farmers from Awarta try to pick olives in October There were clashes between Itamar settlers and Palestinians during the annual olive harvest "They've made life very difficult for Palestinians in the West Bank," says Ramesh Rajasingham, Head of the United Nations Office for Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs in the Occupied Palestinian Territory. "You have settler attacks on Palestinian property, on shepherds. In some cases, they attack kids going to school." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15753945 Israeli child-killer escapes jail Israeli soldiers stand by a burning Palestinian property in Gaza after the murder of a settler The authorities are accused of aiding and abetting settlers A Jewish settler convicted of beating a Palestinian child to death in the West Bank four years ago has been sentenced to six months' community service by an Israeli court http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1129829.stm Armed Israelis are systematically wrecking trees that have stood for hundreds of years and frequently provide the only livelihood for Palestinian families. Human rights groups estimate that more than 1000 trees have been damaged or destroyed in recent weeks, some planted in Roman times. Among the victims are Mr Yusuf and his neighbours in the village of Sawiya, south of Nablus."We used to think they just wanted our olives, but it's about land," he said. "They want to expand their settlement: by cutting the trees, they can say the land is neglected and no one is taking care of it." The assault came from an outpost of the Jewish settlement of Eli. "It was the first day of picking and we worked for three or four hours," said Mr Yusuf, the head of Sawiya's council. "The settlers came down the hill with knives and guns. They slashed open our sacks and emptied the olives onto the ground. They put guns against our heads and made us stand there while they did it.... The destruction of trees has drawn fire from Mr Sharon and the Yesha council, which represents settlers. But the latter qualified its criticism by saying that, while wrecking trees is wrong, it is acceptable for settlers to loot the olive crop - because Jews are entitled to harvest the produce of non-Jews in what the council defines as the "Land of Israel". http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/11/14/1068674380631.html Edited November 29, 2011 by Post To The Left Quote
WWWTT Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 Try building without a building permit in Canada. See what happens. Hint...it involves bulldozers. Actually a neighbour of mine in the Kawarthas built without a permit. He got nailed with big fines. Aswell if you build something that goes against the building code(such as being to close to a property line or the structure is too large)then you can apply for exception and make notice to your neighbours,etc,etc. In other words the bulldozer(demolition) is the last option. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 What about the Jews kicked out of Arab countries? Is this a one sided issue? I don't think so. Look at how the Syrians are treating 'Palestinians." Isn't it about time that 'we' stopped making Israel out to be the bad guy, when Arabs are killing (not just demolishing illegal shacks), citizens in Muslin countries that want the democracy 'Palestinians" enjoy in Israel and the occupied territories? Selective finger pointing is getting quite boring. Then start a thread about Syria. Or about the injustices in muslim countries. If you don't like this thread then don't reply or make comment here. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
wyly Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 Actually a neighbour of mine in the Kawarthas built without a permit. He got nailed with big fines. Aswell if you build something that goes against the building code(such as being to close to a property line or the structure is too large)then you can apply for exception and make notice to your neighbours,etc,etc. In other words the bulldozer(demolition) is the last option. WWWTT your deflecting from the issue...the difference being canadians all have the same rules to follow regarding permits our building rules do not differ according to our ethnic or religious background...our building rules are not dictated to us by a foreign occupying army...our land is not being annexed piece by piece by a foreign state...we are not being squeezed into ever shrinking pockets of land and banned from freedom of travel in our own country...comparing building practices here with the occupied territories is beyond ludicrous what israel is doing is illegal under international law and even canadian law...what israel is doing is ethnic cleansing by creating bantustans/apartheid... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Army Guy Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 your deflecting from the issue...the difference being canadians all have the same rules to follow regarding permits our building rules do not differ according to our ethnic or religious background...our building rules are not dictated to us by a foreign occupying army...our land is not being annexed piece by piece by a foreign state...we are not being squeezed into ever shrinking pockets of land and banned from freedom of travel in our own country...comparing building practices here with the occupied territories is beyond ludicrous what israel is doing is illegal under international law and even canadian law...what israel is doing is ethnic cleansing by creating bantustans/apartheid... Well to be fair to the entire Palestinian problem is not just Israel, it;s the entire middle eastern area...perhaps you should check on Jordian laws in regards to Palestinian (jordians) who have citinship, what are those laws in regards to them buying land in Jordan....just a note that palestians actually make up the majority in Jordan.... you might also check into the other laws in the other nations as well....this problem is not just AN ISRAELIS problem but a middle eastern one.... When it comes down to it nobody wants them..... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
WWWTT Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 your deflecting from the issue...the difference being canadians all have the same rules to follow regarding permits our building rules do not differ according to our ethnic or religious background...our building rules are not dictated to us by a foreign occupying army...our land is not being annexed piece by piece by a foreign state...we are not being squeezed into ever shrinking pockets of land and banned from freedom of travel in our own country... comparing building practices here with the occupied territories is beyond ludicrous what israel is doing is illegal under international law and even canadian law...what israel is doing is ethnic cleansing by creating bantustans/apartheid... Hey man hold on I was replying to someone who was implying that building here without a permit would result in instant demolition of the structure in question. I am not familiar with the body that is responsible for building codes and administering by laws,conducting inspection and such in the west bank or the Palestinian state. In Canada and the US(I'm going to assume many countries around the world)building codes can be reffered to,administered/regulated/apply/excecuted/amended on all levels of government.I am not aware of how building codes work in Isreal or Palestine and the West Bank. Aswell I am not familiar with the building codes there. I know in Canda there have bein many examples were municipalities have descriminated against the construction of mosques.Citing failure to comply with minor sub-sections of local building bi-laws/code and still refusing the opportunity to build after applying for variance.There have bein proven cases because these same municipalities allowed churches with proven similar infractions of the code to be constructed after approving similar application for variance. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 I know in Canda there have bein many examples were municipalities have descriminated against the construction of mosques.Citing failure to comply with minor sub-sections of local building bi-laws/code and still refusing the opportunity to build after applying for variance.There have bein proven cases because these same municipalities allowed churches with proven similar infractions of the code to be constructed after approving similar application for variance. WWWTT I remember hearing about a mosque that was proposed to be built near ground zero in New York city.This could be a good case point for what I am describing above with more research into specific details surrounding the case. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
DogOnPorch Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 your deflecting from the issue...the difference being canadians all have the same rules to follow regarding permits our building rules do not differ according to our ethnic or religious background...our building rules are not dictated to us by a foreign occupying army...our land is not being annexed piece by piece by a foreign state...we are not being squeezed into ever shrinking pockets of land and banned from freedom of travel in our own country... comparing building practices here with the occupied territories is beyond ludicrous what israel is doing is illegal under international law and even canadian law...what israel is doing is ethnic cleansing by creating bantustans/apartheid... You see...there was this thing called the Six Day War.... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
wyly Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 Well to be fair to the entire Palestinian problem is not just Israel, it;s the entire middle eastern area...perhaps you should check on Jordian laws in regards to Palestinian (jordians) who have citinship, what are those laws in regards to them buying land in Jordan....just a note that palestians actually make up the majority in Jordan.... ....let's see your evidence for that in another threadyou might also check into the other laws in the other nations as well....more deflection of the issue...we aren't discussing other countries, this thread is about ethnic cleansing apartheid in palestine by an occupying force...this problem is not just AN ISRAELIS problem but a middle eastern oneisraels problem? ISRAEL is the problem...israel created a refugee problem be expulsion of a native population and continued illegal occupation, the neighboring countries never created the refugee situation israel did...When it comes down to it nobody wants them.....wow what racist bull crap, the equivalent of anything to come from the pre ww2 fascism...and from a military man who represents our armed forces that fought and died fighting those who espoused that belief, only back then it was jews and gypsy's no one wanted now it's palestinians... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
wyly Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 I remember hearing about a mosque that was proposed to be built near ground zero in New York city.This could be a good case point for what I am describing above with more research into specific details surrounding the case. WWWTT opposition to the mosque was wrong, and it has opened... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
DogOnPorch Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 wow what racist bull crap, the equivalent of anything to come from the pre ww2 fascism...and from a military man who represents our armed forces that fought and died fighting those who espoused that belief, only back then it was jews and gypsy's no one wanted now it's palestinians... There's a good reason nobody wants them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September_in_Jordan Nobody wants to be in the same position Jordan was in back in 1970. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
wyly Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 Hey man hold on I was replying to someone who was implying that building here without a permit would result in instant demolition of the structure in question. I am not familiar with the body that is responsible for building codes and administering by laws,conducting inspection and such in the west bank or the Palestinian state. In Canada and the US(I'm going to assume many countries around the world)building codes can be reffered to,administered/regulated/apply/excecuted/amended on all levels of government.I am not aware of how building codes work in Isreal or Palestine and the West Bank. Aswell I am not familiar with the building codes there. I know in Canda there have bein many examples were municipalities have descriminated against the construction of mosques.Citing failure to comply with minor sub-sections of local building bi-laws/code and still refusing the opportunity to build after applying for variance.There have bein proven cases because these same municipalities allowed churches with proven similar infractions of the code to be constructed after approving similar application for variance. WWWTT building codes aren't the issue...jews can build on stolen palestinian land, palestinians can not build on their land...this isn't about codes it's ethnic discrimination, ethnic cleansing... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
DogOnPorch Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 building codes aren't the issue...jews can build on stolen palestinian land, palestinians can not build on their land...this isn't about codes it's ethnic discrimination, ethnic cleansing... It's not stolen. It was lost by the attacking side during THEIR war of aggression. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
WWWTT Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 building codes aren't the issue...jews can build on stolen palestinian land, palestinians can not build on their land...this isn't about codes it's ethnic discrimination, ethnic cleansing... I am sorry but I lack sufficient knowledge to continue debating the morality of who is granted building permits in that region of the world. Perhaps you can find a website(in English) from the building department for these regions and find out what is required when submitting. Good luck with your debate. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
DogOnPorch Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 opposition to the mosque was wrong, and it has opened... Opposition to the Ground Zero Mosque wasn't wrong. Just a different POV than yours. Sort of like having a monument to National Socialism at Treblinka. Many thought it was in poor taste and disrespectful. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Hudson Jones Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 (edited) What does Israel want? Security. Not to have rockets constantly fired at its citizens. I wonder about this comment. How is land theft called security by staunch Israeli supporters? If anything, it reduces security. Edited November 29, 2011 by Hudson Jones Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
wyly Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 I wonder about this comment. How is land theft called security by staunch Israeli supporters? If anything, it reduces security. correct...if anything it just increases the violence how people expect palestinians to react as they see their country stolen piece by piece...of course this plays right in the hands of the zionist propaganda machine..."look how these ungrateful palestinians attack us for occupying them we must take even more land as punishment"... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Army Guy Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 Well to be fair to the entire Palestinian problem is not just Israel, it;s the entire middle eastern area...perhaps you should check on Jordian laws in regards to Palestinian (jordians) who have citinship, what are those laws in regards to them buying land in Jordan....just a note that palestians actually make up the majority in Jordan.... .... let's see your evidence for that in another thread 3.9 OwnershipPalestinians in Jordan have the right to own property. Only holders of temporary passports do not have this right. They are requested to have a local Jordanian partner in any property they own and to request the approval of a ministerial council .link At the time, the population east of the Jordan River contained over 400,000 Palestinian refugees who made up one-third of the population of the Kingdom; another third of the population was Palestinians on the West Bank. Only one third of the population consisted of the original inhabitants of Trans-Jordan, which meant that the Jordanians had become a ruling minority over a Palestinian majority. Jordan: King Hussein of Jordan was maligned throughout the Arab world for having attacked the Palestinian resistance, and although he had now averted the physical threat to his throne, his legitimacy had suffered a crippling blow among Palestinians (who made up the majority of the kingdom's inhabitants) and on the regional Arab scene. Only a few years later, in 1974, the Arab League (and then the UN) would recognize the PLO as the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people, denying Jordan's long-held claim to ownership of East Jerusalem and sovereignty over the Palestinian West Bank population. I think you can check with some of the other countries in the nieborhood for their laws... more deflection of the issue...we aren't discussing other countries, this thread is about ethnic cleansing apartheid in palestine by an occupying force... Yes lets get specific because at one time Jordan and Eygpt were occupping forces as well...But YA we are slamming Israel i get it.... israels problem? ISRAEL is the problem...israel created a refugee problem be expulsion of a native population and continued illegal occupation, the neighboring countries never created the refugee situation israel did... From 1948 until the early 1970s, 800,000–1,000,000 Jews left, fled, or were expelled from their homes in Arab countries; 260,000 of them reached Israel between 1948 and 1951; and 600,000 by 1972.[1][2][3] Lebanon was the only Arab country to see an increase in its Jewish population after 1948, which was due to an influx of refugees from other Arab countries.[4] However, by the 1970s the Jewish community of Lebanon too dwindled due to hostilities of the Lebanese Civil War. By 2002 Jews from Arab countries and their descendants constituted almost half of Israel's population.[3] How many Palistinians were expulled from Occupy terrorities again.... When the Haganah went on the offensive, between April and July, a further 250,000 to 300,000 Palestinian Arabs left or were expelled, mainly from the towns of Haifa, Tiberias, Beit-Shean, Safed, Jaffa and Acre, which lost more than 90 percent of their Arab inhabitants.[10] Expulsions took place in many towns and villages, particularly along the Tel-Aviv-Jerusalem road[11] and in Eastern Galilee.[12]"] linkBetween December 1947 and March 1948, around 100,000 Palestinian Arabs fled. Among them were many from the higher and middle classes from the cities, who left voluntarily, expecting to return when the Arab states took control of the country.[9] When the Haganah went on the offensive, between April and July, a further 250,000 to 300,000 Palestinian Arabs left or were expelled, mainly from the towns of Haifa, Tiberias, Beit-Shean, Safed, Jaffa and Acre, which lost more than 90 percent of their Arab inhabitants.[10] Expulsions took place in many towns and villages, particularly along the Tel-Aviv-Jerusalem road[11] and in Eastern Galilee.[12] About 50,000-70,000 inhabitants of Lydda and Ramle were expelled towards Ramallah by the Israel Defence Force during Operation Danny,[13] and most others during operations of the IDF in its rear areas.[14] During Operation Dekel, the Arabs of Nazareth and South Galilee were allowed to remain in their homes.[15] Today they form the core of the Arab Israeli population. From October to November 1948, the IDF launched Operation Yoav to remove Egyptian forces from the Negev and Operation Hiram to remove the Arab Liberation Army from North Galilee during which at least nine massacres of Arabs were carried out by IDF soldiers.[16] These events generated an exodus of 200,000 to 220,000 Palestinian Arabs. Here, Arabs fled fearing atrocities or were expelled if they had not fled.[17] After the war, from 1948 to 1950, the IDF expelled around 30,000 to 40,000 Arabs from the borderlands of the new Israeli state.[18] My link wow what racist bull crap, the equivalent of anything to come from the pre ww2 fascism...and from a military man who represents our armed forces that fought and died fighting those who espoused that belief, only back then it was jews and gypsy's no one wanted now it's palestinians... Really name one country that has offered to take them in as equals....in any numbers...Racist crap...it's the truth...and you know it...Maybe if you did some more reading.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
wyly Posted November 29, 2011 Report Posted November 29, 2011 . link At the time, the population east of the Jordan River contained over 400,000 Palestinian refugees who made up one-third of the population of the Kingdom; another third of the population was Palestinians on the West Bank. Only one third of the population consisted of the original inhabitants of Trans-Jordan, which meant that the Jordanians had become a ruling minority over a Palestinian majority. Jordan: King Hussein of Jordan was maligned throughout the Arab world for having attacked the Palestinian resistance, and although he had now averted the physical threat to his throne, his legitimacy had suffered a crippling blow among Palestinians (who made up the majority of the kingdom's inhabitants) and on the regional Arab scene. Only a few years later, in 1974, the Arab League (and then the UN) would recognize the PLO as the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people, denying Jordan's long-held claim to ownership of East Jerusalem and sovereignty over the Palestinian West Bank population. I think you can check with some of the other countries in the nieborhood for their laws... Yes lets get specific because at one time Jordan and Eygpt were occupping forces as well...But YA we are slamming Israel i get it.... How many Palistinians were expulled from Occupy terrorities again.... When the Haganah went on the offensive, between April and July, a further 250,000 to 300,000 Palestinian Arabs left or were expelled, mainly from the towns of Haifa, Tiberias, Beit-Shean, Safed, Jaffa and Acre, which lost more than 90 percent of their Arab inhabitants.[10] Expulsions took place in many towns and villages, particularly along the Tel-Aviv-Jerusalem road[11] and in Eastern Galilee.[12]"] linkBetween December 1947 and March 1948, around 100,000 Palestinian Arabs fled. Among them were many from the higher and middle classes from the cities, who left voluntarily, expecting to return when the Arab states took control of the country.[9] When the Haganah went on the offensive, between April and July, a further 250,000 to 300,000 Palestinian Arabs left or were expelled, mainly from the towns of Haifa, Tiberias, Beit-Shean, Safed, Jaffa and Acre, which lost more than 90 percent of their Arab inhabitants.[10] Expulsions took place in many towns and villages, particularly along the Tel-Aviv-Jerusalem road[11] and in Eastern Galilee.[12] About 50,000-70,000 inhabitants of Lydda and Ramle were expelled towards Ramallah by the Israel Defence Force during Operation Danny,[13] and most others during operations of the IDF in its rear areas.[14] During Operation Dekel, the Arabs of Nazareth and South Galilee were allowed to remain in their homes.[15] Today they form the core of the Arab Israeli population. From October to November 1948, the IDF launched Operation Yoav to remove Egyptian forces from the Negev and Operation Hiram to remove the Arab Liberation Army from North Galilee during which at least nine massacres of Arabs were carried out by IDF soldiers.[16] These events generated an exodus of 200,000 to 220,000 Palestinian Arabs. Here, Arabs fled fearing atrocities or were expelled if they had not fled.[17] After the war, from 1948 to 1950, the IDF expelled around 30,000 to 40,000 Arabs from the borderlands of the new Israeli state.[18] My link Really name one country that has offered to take them in as equals....in any numbers...Racist crap...it's the truth...and you know it...Maybe if you did some more reading.... oh wow great link WIKIPEDIA bob from israel likely edited it...epic failure on your part....from your own biased link "Iraqi-born Shlomo Hillel, also a former speaker of the Knesset, Labor Party, claimed: "I do not regard the departure of Jews from Arab lands as that of refugees. They came here because they wanted to, as Zionists."...When it comes down to it nobody wants them.....this quote will be forever added to my signature...fascism is alive and well in our military, my father would have been appalled to know he was being liberated from fascists by the fathers of future fascists... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
DogOnPorch Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 Me thinks someone needs their meds. AG a fascist?????? If so, Mars is now also called the Green Planet. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bud Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 this quote will be forever added to my signature...fascism is alive and well in our military, my father would have been appalled to know he was being liberated from fascists by the fathers of future fascists... army guy is using a familiar tactic in justifying israeli actions. he tries to brush aside israel's actions by trying to equate them to other governments' actions. governments which he would, in other debates, call backwards and undemocratic. it's typical and expected of hasbara bots who are here to excuse and justify israeli actions. i'm happy to say that "army guy" doesn't represent most of the canadian military people that i know and met. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
Jack Weber Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 Me thinks someone needs their meds. AG a fascist?????? If so, Mars is now also called the Green Planet. It's the easiest thing in the world for these acquiescent leftists to call someone a "fascist"..It's like some sort of nullification excercise when faced with actual facts... The person in question also informed me last year that Adolph Hitler was a Christian Right wing zealot (and hinted that being nominally Catholic,he may have been on orders from The Vatican... ) Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Army Guy Posted November 30, 2011 Report Posted November 30, 2011 oh wow great link WIKIPEDIA bob from israel likely edited it...epic failure on your part....from your own biased link "Iraqi-born Shlomo Hillel, also a former speaker of the Knesset, Labor Party, claimed: "I do not regard the departure of Jews from Arab lands as that of refugees. They came here because they wanted to, as Zionists."... I guess the other link is tainted as well the forced migration online....lets make this easy you tell what links you like and what ones BOB does not work for and i'll redo the research....So just so we are clear none of the info is true that is what your saying. this quote will be forever added to my signature...fascism is alive and well in our military, my father would have been appalled to know he was being liberated from fascists by the fathers of future fascists... Glad i could help, just thought since we were discussing the Palistinian problem we should include the entire problem not just the Israelis side of the story.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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