Persecuted Christians In America!

[cybercoma]

How does that even make any sense anyway? It's a slap in the face when any other religion or non-religious person does an invocation, but it's not a slap in the face to those people when Christians do it? Talk about completely lacking any self-awareness whatsoever.

[msj]

How does that even make any sense anyway? It's a slap in the face when any other religion or non-religious person does an invocation, but it's not a slap in the face to those people when Christians do it? Talk about completely lacking any self-awareness whatsoever.

Or, to borrow from another thread, those people are "overreacting" while these people (the Christians) are not when they defend their practice.

[cybercoma]

Or, to borrow from another thread, those people are "overreacting" while these people (the Christians) are not when they defend their practice.

I see what you did there.

[cybercoma]

A funny thought occurred to me today.

People want Church teachings embedded in science classes.

Wouldn't it be fun to get a bunch of scientists together to demand that the Church teaches science during their sermons?

[The_Squid]

Wouldn't it be fun to get a bunch of scientists together to demand that the Church teaches science during their sermons?

Fun, yes. But the thing is, no scientist is that bloody stupid to want to do that!

[Smallc]

Wouldn't it be fun to get a bunch of scientists together to demand that the Church teaches science during their sermons?

[guyser]

A funny thought occurred to me today.

People want Church teachings embedded in science classes.

Wouldn't it be fun to get a bunch of scientists together to demand that the Church teaches science during their sermons?

Sure..."Moses parted the Sea, well...actually the tide went out for awhile and we scampered across"

"And this bush just burst into fire.....until we realized that some broken glass underneath refracted the light into a narrow beam and it was a hot sunny dry day...and well, duh...fires start that way"

Im still working on the Virgin thing and how she got knocked up. Science will never explain that....but if the household help starts speaking, all bets are off.

[msj]

Im still working on the Virgin thing and how she got knocked up. Science will never explain that....but if the household help starts speaking, all bets are off.

Will they "give up the ghost" or spill the beans?

All I know is that it certainly was not a "legitimate rape."

[cybercoma]

Sure..."Moses parted the Sea, well...actually the tide went out for awhile and we scampered across"

"And this bush just burst into fire.....until we realized that some broken glass underneath refracted the light into a narrow beam and it was a hot sunny dry day...and well, duh...fires start that way"

Im still working on the Virgin thing and how she got knocked up. Science will never explain that....but if the household help starts speaking, all bets are off.

Perhaps the social sciences can help with the latter topic.

[guyser]

Will they "give up the ghost" or spill the beans?

Neither, they are all dead but maybe a seance will shed some light.

Break out the Ouiji Board.

Edited September 5, 2012 by guyser

[guyser]

Perhaps the social sciences can help with the latter topic.

Certainly would help.

[msj]

I was going to start a new thread with a poll asking the questions found in the link below but thought better of it (not because AW and Shady would whine about another thread "attacking" Christianity but because I don't want to "steal" the questions).

Anyway, this may help separate the truly persecuted from the whiny:

How to Determine If Your Religious Liberty Is Being Threatened in Just 10 Quick Questions

Sample of questions:

1. My religious liberty is at risk because:

A) I am not allowed to go to a religious service of my own choosing.

Others are allowed to go to religious services of their own choosing.

5. My religious liberty is at risk because:

A) Being a member of my faith means that I can be bullied without legal recourse.

I am no longer allowed to use my faith to bully gay kids with impunity.

6. My religious liberty is at risk because:

A) I am not allowed to purchase, read or possess religious books or material.

Others are allowed to have access books, movies and websites that I do not like.

10. My religious liberty is at risk because:

A) I am not allowed to teach my children the creation stories of our faith at home.

Public school science classes are teaching science.

Also see the graph here.

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I think kimmy's point in this thread essentially is the same as above - what some people are claiming to be "persecution" is not really persecution.

Oh, and add in "what did we learn from the story about the little boy who cried wolf?" for good measure.

Edited September 7, 2012 by msj

[cybercoma]

Yeah. It's pretty clear that the way Christians are being persecuted is that they're not allowed to persecute others. I don't know how they can manage.

[cybercoma]

These Christians were so persecuted they had to fire a teacher over it.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/09/08/after-high-school-teacher-defends-atheist-and-gay-students-he-is-forced-to-resign/

PBP

-> Student tries to publish an article in the school newspaper about how she's persecuted as an atheist.

-> Student publishes an article in the school yearbook entitled about persecution of homosexuals called "It's OK to be gay."

-> Journalism teacher loses his job because these articles persecute Christians.

[msj]

Yeah, I saw that about the teacher but didn't have time to post it.

I also saw this yesterday: NFL Punter Chris Kluwe Helpfully Explains Gay Marriage To A Bigot

-> Baltimore Raven Linebacker is part of a video supporting gay marriage

-> Reverend Democratic Maryland Delegate Emmett C. Burns writes letter demanding that the Ravens "take the necessary action... to inhibit such expressions from" their employee.

-> Vikings punter writes back and I learn what fromunda means in the urban dictionary

Edited September 9, 2012 by msj

[Shakeyhands]

Yeah, I saw that about the teacher but didn't have time to post it.

I also saw this yesterday: NFL Punter Chris Kluwe Helpfully Explains Gay Marriage To A Bigot

-> Baltimore Raven Linebacker is part of a video supporting gay marriage

-> Reverend Democratic Maryland Delegate Emmett C. Burns writes letter demanding that the Ravens "take the necessary action... to inhibit such expressions from" their employee.

-> Vikings punter writes back and I learn what fromunda means in the urban dictionary

That is fantastically awesome.

[cybercoma]

Yeah, I saw that about the teacher but didn't have time to post it.

I also saw this yesterday: NFL Punter Chris Kluwe Helpfully Explains Gay Marriage To A Bigot

-> Baltimore Raven Linebacker is part of a video supporting gay marriage

-> Reverend Democratic Maryland Delegate Emmett C. Burns writes letter demanding that the Ravens "take the necessary action... to inhibit such expressions from" their employee.

-> Vikings punter writes back and I learn what fromunda means in the urban dictionary

A politician literally asking someone to "inhibit expression." WTF.

[cybercoma]

Holy crap. Kluwe's letter is one of the most brutal public facestompings I've ever seen.

[cybercoma]

Christian admin persecuted at hospital in Alberta. Kicks out patient.

A Calgary man says he’s furious after he was initially denied admission to the Rockyview General Hospital for a wrist injury this weekend when he refused to remove an inverted cross necklace he regularly wears as part of his goth garb.

Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/says+hospital+denied+treatment+goth+garb/7215339/story.html#ixzz264kwQPNP

[msj]

Looks like the University of Tennessee is going to start observing a moment of silence at football games rather than recite a Christian prayer.

Expect to hear the cries of persecution since Christians no longer get their special treatment.

[Black Dog]

Christian admin persecuted at hospital in Alberta. Kicks out patient.

The funny thing being the upside-down cross is a Christian symbol.

[cybercoma]

The funny thing being the upside-down cross is a Christian symbol.

St. Peter for the win!

[kimmy]

Great updates, guys! There's so much persecution going on right now! I especially liked the letter from the Vikings punter. That guy has a way with words, to say the least!

I was reading that the NFL commissioner, Roger Goodell, has spoken up in support of Brendon Ayanbadejo and other NFL players exercising their right to free speech.

I also noticed that there seems to be some amount of "durrr well that guy must be a fag or sumthin" type thinking directed at Ayanbadejo... even though he has 2 kids with his longtime girlfriend. I was also noticing that Ayanbadejo has a body that looks like it was sculpted from marble by a renaissance artist... but that's entirely off topic.

On a similar note, lots of other athletes are getting into persecution too! A lot of hockey players, like the Oilers' Ryan Jones, are participating in a project called "You Can Play," aimed at supporting gay athletes and fighting homophobia in sports. "You Can Play" was launched by Toronto Maple Leafs general manager Brian Burke, in memory of his late son Brendan, who died in a car crash in 2010. Brendan Burke was a hockey player who was gay. When Brendan came out of the closet to his family, Brian was supportive but also afraid that being openly gay in the macho world of hockey would be hard for his son. Though Brandon has died, Brian Burke started this project with the hope of helping other gay athletes.

-k

[kimmy]

More cries of persecution from the campaign trail this week!

First!

Campaigning in Virginia with God-fearing Christian icon Pat Robertson, Presidential hopeful Mitt Romney declared "That pledge says 'under God.' I will not take God out of our platform. I will not take God off our coins. And I will not take God out of my heart," to uproarious applause.

This is an obvious reference to the Democratic platform initially containing no references to God last week, and the suggestion that "God" will be taken off the coins is among the cheesiest appeals to Christian feelings of imaginary persecution I have seen in quite some time.

What's really sad, to me at least, is that Willard is so desperate that he's even campaigning with Pat Robertson. Pat Robertson is a withered old sack of garbage and any politician with any sense would avoid being seen with a guy with such a long history of saying despicable crap, like advising a guy to turn Muslim so that he can beat his wife this week.

But then!

The persecution went into overdrive when Barack Obama's September 11 proclamation did not talk about God either! And we all know that God gets very angry when we forget to thank Him on the day that His followers crashed airplanes into skyscrapers and killed thousands of people while He watched idly and did nothing.

Fox & Friends co-host Gretchen Carlson claimed that Obama has "called for a moment of silence, but has not called for the word God. So some people are asking, why is God being left out again?" Later, her colleague Steve Doocy said: "On this most somber of days, get this. Does the President of the United States call on people to pray for those lives lost? No."

"God being left out again"... is obviously another reference to God being left out of the DNC platform for several hours.

Never mind that Obama had already declared all last weekend to be National Days of Prayer in remembrance of 9/11.

-k

[msj]

Looks like someone has a "Last Ounce of Courage" and will take on this perseuction.

You better pray, kimmy, you better pray, cuz they're not gonna give up one more inch.

NOT ONE MORE INCH!!!!

Yeah.