Black Dog Posted February 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 What the city needs to do is remove transit planning and development from the political realm entirely. Metrolinx seems like a better agency to achieve this - they are essentially faceless and have ongoing planning as part of their mandate. We need to move forward now, as the problem with transit will soon become unmanageable. Metrolinx needs to grow a pair and seize that role. They effed up by striking the MOU with Ford in the first place instead of telling him where to go and how to get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Metrolinx needs to grow a pair and seize that role. They effed up by striking the MOU with Ford in the first place instead of telling him where to go and how to get there. They need to take the ball back from the City of Toronto, since they've proven that they can't play nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted February 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 They need to take the ball back from the City of Toronto, since they've proven that they can't play nice. Well, this is a good first step. Absent Council’s endorsement of the MoU, the City is not bound by the plan and it is increasingly difficult for Metrolinx to implement it. We believe that both you and Council must soon confirm the direction the City wishes to take. Basically, Metrolinx is setting Ford up for a vote he could well lose, especially now that his toadies have started eating their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Basically, Metrolinx is setting Ford up for a vote he could well lose, especially now that his toadies have started eating their own. We need a decision either way, and I think this moves that along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Every mini-controversy and political chess move prolongs the problem that Torontoians are facing. I thought the problem in Toronto was too much gravy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 When will Rob Ford resign? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mentalfloss Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 When will Rob Ford resign? Resign from what? Councillor to councillor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I thought the problem in Toronto was too much gravy. It's not gravy that's the problem, it's juice. You can't cut juice out of the roast easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 I thought the problem in Toronto was too much gravy. No thats Rob Fords problem , and too much carbs , too many drinks and not enough exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 Resign from what? Councillor to councillor? Would staying in the same position be a resignation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted February 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 The clown show continues as Ford goes on offensive for his transit plan One day after Mayor Rob Ford’s allies on the TTC board blocked a report on the potential pitfalls of his plan to tunnel the entire Eglinton LRT, Ford himself went on the offensive to dismiss alternatives to his vision.“I campaigned on building subways and I stand behind that commitment 100 per cent, because it is the right thing to do,” Ford said at an outdoor rush-hour news conference at Eglinton and Victoria Park Aves. “Putting trains down the middle of congested, jammed-up streets like the one behind us is not the answer. It is wrong.” I mean, just look at the place. Of course, I see nobody has told Ford that an underground LRT is not the same thing as a subway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Ford apparently knows nothing about city planning either. Anyone that studies these things will tell you that making more space to cars will bring more cars to the space. Putting LRT in will encourage more people to use it, helping to clear up congestion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) The clown show continues as Ford goes on offensive for his transit plan I mean, just look at the place. Of course, I see nobody has told Ford that an underground LRT is not the same thing as a subway. Quite a photo-op, showing the jammed-up congested Eglinton-Victoria intersection at rush hour. Except that it looks busy, but certainly not congested to me. Interestingly, when looking at Google sattelite images of Eglinton between Leslie and Kennedy, I think that on most of its lenght (except on the viaducts just east of Leslie and around Wynford Drive) one could argue that there is enough space on most of the lenghtto add an LRT AND keep the same number of car lines. And although that may come in a far future, the same could also be said of Eglinton west of Jane. Edited February 2, 2012 by CANADIEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mentalfloss Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Mississauga mayor says Ford transit plan can’t come at other cities’ expense “I give (Ford) all kinds of credit if he can implement his promise to build all underground without funding from the province and federal government that would impact other communities —Durham, York, Halton, Peel. If the province has to allocate the money to go underground, it has to impact the projects in the other regions,” McCallion said. “What Mr. Ford wants to do, contrary to what Metrolinx wants to do, with the limited amount of money available — I don’t want funding to go all the way underground in Toronto to interfere with the other regions.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Those other regions didn't elect him. The people of Toronto did. And they want subways. That's a fact. Rob F'ing Ford asked all the people of Scarborough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted February 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) These pro-"subway" councilors must be smoking some righteous dope. “By the time the LRT is in place, we could see the type of density (along Eglington) you see in the downtown core,” (Councillor Michelle Berardinetti) said. Ford ally Councillor Paul Ainslie said Wednesday that burying the Eglinton line would move passengers twice as fast and increase capacity four-fold. Edited February 2, 2012 by Black Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted February 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) Remember how the Sheppard line was going to be built purely through the largesse of the private sector? HAHAHA! A long-awaited report on how to finance Mayor Rob Ford’s Sheppard subway plan concludes the line is “feasible” but only with controversial revenue tools including road tolls, a tax on parking spots, building development charges and subway-focused sales tax. How about a vehicle registration tax? Edited February 2, 2012 by Black Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mentalfloss Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 These pro-"subway" councilors must be smoking some righteous dope. “By the time the LRT is in place, we could see the type of density (along Eglington) you see in the downtown core,” (Councillor Michelle Berardinetti) said. Ford ally Councillor Paul Ainslie said Wednesday that burying the Eglinton line would move passengers twice as fast and increase capacity four-fold. So they've reverted to simply outright lying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted February 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 So they've reverted to simply outright lying? What do you mean "reverted"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) These pro-"subway" councilors must be smoking some righteous dope. “By the time the LRT is in place, we could see the type of density (along Eglington) you see in the downtown core,” (Councillor Michelle Berardinetti) said. Ford ally Councillor Paul Ainslie said Wednesday that burying the Eglinton line would move passengers twice as fast and increase capacity four-fold. I must admit I totally agree with Councillor Berardinetti. Thanks to Mayor Ford, by the time there's rapid transit on Eglinton, the density will indeed be like what the downtown core. Mind you, I'd prefer for it to be built sometime before 2040. As for Mr. Ainslie's comment... faster, yes, twice the speed, excuse me? Edited February 2, 2012 by CANADIEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 So they've reverted to simply outright lying? No, for it to be a lie they would have to know what they're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIEN Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) Remember how the Sheppard line was going to be built purely through the largesse of the private sector? Apparently, private investors are not interested. I wonder why. Edited February 2, 2012 by CANADIEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPCFTW Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) These pro-"subway" councilors must be smoking some righteous dope. “By the time the LRT is in place, we could see the type of density (along Eglington) you see in the downtown core,” (Councillor Michelle Berardinetti) said. Ford ally Councillor Paul Ainslie said Wednesday that burying the Eglinton line would move passengers twice as fast and increase capacity four-fold. They must be reading my posts.. Maybe I should be a Councillor..? Edited February 3, 2012 by CPCFTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted February 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 They must be reading my posts.. Maybe I should be a Councillor..? You do have a key qualification to be one of Ford's allies: you don't know what you're talking about either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted February 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Ford facing transit uprising Mayor Rob Ford’s victory in avoiding a strike by city outside workers could be short-lived as a group of 24 city councillors moves to effectively bury the mayor’s vision of underground transit.If they are successful, Toronto would return to a 2009 light rail transit plan, and it will be clear that Ford’s unwillingness to compromise is seriously hampering his ability to move his agenda forward. TTC chair Karen Stintz plans to present a petition to the city clerk on Monday morning asking for a special council meeting on Wednesday. The petition is signed by 24 councillors, which constitutes a majority which in turn requires the clerk to schedule a meeting. Under city bylaws that meeting must be held within 48 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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