cybercoma Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Actually, that's exactly what it means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 They plead guilty to end it, same as some people makes deals and plead guilty rather than spend any more money fighting it, thus keeping it in the public eye. Doesn't mean they actually where guilty... they even admitted to wrongdoing they just disguised it so their idiotic followers who probably didn't graduate grade 8 wouldn't know better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 They plead guilty, but they're not really guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 they even admitted to wrongdoing they just disguised it so their idiotic followers who probably didn't graduate grade 8 wouldn't know better Or they don't really care idiotic posters say who probably didn't graduate from kindergarten and wouldn't know better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Or they don't really care idiotic posters say who probably didn't graduate from kindergarten and wouldn't know better. you really shouldn't talk to yourself like that self deprecation is kind of pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 you really shouldn't talk to yourself like that self deprecation is kind of pathetic looked in the mirror lately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 It could also mean that paying 50 grand or so to make the case go away is cheaper for Canadian taxpayers than going through with it. Yeah! They did it for the tax payer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Elections Canada agreed to the deal for the taxpayers, the Tories agreed to it for themselves - and this too will pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I recall the conservatives were angry when the Bloc did this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E James Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 You can't say that this came at the Conservatives because of some type of Liberal majority in the Election Canada world. If anything the tight grasp and sudden Conservative flip that has overtaken Ottawa has proven true with nothing being laid on the heads of any Conservative top brass workers. We know that they are guilty of the charges because they plead guilty. We also know that they didn't take any of it seriously largely no doubt because they had already made headway in the election because of it. It was after all effective. The fact is that we do have a government that plays short and fast with the rules. It will remove almost any opposition especially that from professional opinion. This whole affair I think is yet another example of the Harper government showing it's disregard toward the Ottawa establishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Elections Canada agreed to the deal for the taxpayers, the Tories agreed to it for themselves - and this too will pass. Deal. The Conservative Party plead guilty to lesser charges save itself from further embarassment. Imagine the dirt that would have been drug out with a massive public trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 I think is yet another example of the Harper government showing it's disregard the entire electorate. FTFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shwa Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 They plead guilty to end it, same as some people makes deals and plead guilty rather than spend any more money fighting it, thus keeping it in the public eye. Doesn't mean they actually where guilty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Ashley Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 (edited) http://www.firstperspective.ca/news/3380-conservatives-fined-for-breaking-elections-laws-but-tories-claim-outcome-a-big-victory.html This is absurd, they committed election fraud and only got a pecuniary penalty this is absurd, Pay some money to break election law it is effectually corruption in the justice system to take that stance,Plea bargaining by the crown with government agents is corrupt to the core. NO PLEA BARGAIN SHOULD HAVE OCCURRED. FOUL! what rubbish the corrupt government of Canada has become Edited November 13, 2011 by William Ashley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 http://www.firstperspective.ca/news/3380-conservatives-fined-for-breaking-elections-laws-but-tories-claim-outcome-a-big-victory.html This is absurd, they committed election fraud and only got a pecuniary penalty this is absurd, Pay some money to break election law it is effectually corruption in the justice system to take that stance,Plea bargaining by the crown with government agents is corrupt to the core. NO PLEA BARGAIN SHOULD HAVE OCCURRED. FOUL! what rubbish the corrupt government of Canada has become And it's illegal corruption like that which has led to the Occupy Movement.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 http://www.firstperspective.ca/news/3380-conservatives-fined-for-breaking-elections-laws-but-tories-claim-outcome-a-big-victory.html This is absurd, they committed election fraud and only got a pecuniary penalty this is absurd, Pay some money to break election law it is effectually corruption in the justice system to take that stance,Plea bargaining by the crown with government agents is corrupt to the core. NO PLEA BARGAIN SHOULD HAVE OCCURRED. FOUL! what rubbish the corrupt government of Canada has become And it's illegal corruption like that which has led to the Occupy Movement.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 And it's illegal corruption like that which has led to the Occupy Movement.. Is there such a thing as legal corruption? And I think it's lack of education and general ignorance which has led to the occupy movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilter Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 And it's illegal corruption like that which has led to the Occupy Movement.. Get serious---- the great crime of spending more than allowed to get elected--something EVERY politician in Canada does every election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilter Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Is there such a thing as legal corruption? And I think it's lack of education and general ignorance which has led to the occupy movement. Or something to do for the very bored & boring sons (and daughters) of wealthy people to do to show that they really have some reason for existence (besides being the support group for the illegal drug industry) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olp1fan Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Or something to do for the very bored & boring sons (and daughters) of wealthy people to do to show that they really have some reason for existence (besides being the support group for the illegal drug industry) well its not like they can become super heroes like bruce wayne and oliver queen did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Peeves Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Get serious---- the great crime of spending more than allowed to get elected--something EVERY politician in Canada does every election. \Exactly, and other parties have done the same thing in the past without elections Canada doing a thing. Even the political news station discussions have indicated the Bloc did the same thing frequently. Certainly that's not an excuse, the law was broken, but one has top wonder why it became an issue suddenly in 2008 with the Conservative elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 (edited) you mean like how cons still rant about libs and sponsorship scandal?Big, huge, mammoth, difference between in-out and the sponsorship scandal.You do realize the Conservative Party plead guilty, right?In marriage and politics, you pick your fights.---- IMV, the Ottawa bureaucracy doesn't like Harper and they are trying to "bring down" Harper. In fact, these Ottawa bureaucrats - in their hamfisted way - are simply driving more voters into the Harper/Conservative camp. From the Wheat Board to the CBC, from Foreign Affairs to Heritage Canada and Elections Canada, I don't think the bureaucrats quite understand the contempt of ordinary Canadian taxpayers for the "bureaucratic way of life". For example, the CBC organized a Harris-Decima poll through the Canadian Press recently. Link As if life could be so simple as a poll, and a press release into the Toronto-centric media. ---- Harper is on the right track. These bureaucrats are paper tigers. But perhaps what is more important, when they attempt to "bring down" Harper, they are so inconscient that they merely push more voters into the Conservative camp. Edited November 14, 2011 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 (edited) This is absurd, they committed election fraud and only got a pecuniary penalty this is absurd,Pay some money to break election law it is effectually corruption in the justice system to take that stance,Plea bargaining by the crown with government agents is corrupt to the core. NO PLEA BARGAIN SHOULD HAVE OCCURRED. FOUL! what rubbish the corrupt government of Canada has become William Ashley, some Ottawa bureaucrats decided that Harper and the Conservatives committed "fraud". For many voters, that's like a lawyer for the Hell's Angels declaring that the RCMP are unfair. IOW Ashley, I don't think that you quite understand how little respect many Canadian taxpayers have for the opinions of some bureaucrats in Ottawa. "Hypocracy" electoral fraud? I'd say rather that Harper just gained a few more votes. Edited November 14, 2011 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 I think the word you're looking for is "hippocracy"... government by hippos. -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 (edited) William Ashley, some Ottawa bureaucrats decided that Harper and the Conservatives committed "fraud". For many voters, that's like a lawyer for the Hell's Angels declaring that the RCMP are unfair. IOW Ashley, I don't think that you quite understand how little respect many Canadian taxpayers have for the opinions of some bureaucrats in Ottawa. "Hypocracy" electoral fraud? I'd say rather that Harper just gained a few more votes. Like I said. Youre desperate to give them a pass for ideological reasons. If theyre investigated by the police youll simply dismiss the police as corrupt. If they plead guilty to charges, youll consider them innocent. If they get caught raping a teenage girl youll say it was because she dressed slutty. Its pretty a pretty common phenomenon today, and certainly not something thats your fault. My feeling is that we have campaign finance laws for a reason, and they should have a lot more teeth, and people should be willing to hold all the parties to thes ame standard. Edited November 14, 2011 by dre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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