cybercoma Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 McGuinty's broken dozens of promises. That's far worse than a 911 call. He should resign immediately.Breaking promises is wrong. Giving the finger to a mother and her daughter, inferring that a kids' author is a bitch and now calling 911 dispatchers "fucking bitches" is just disgusting. Rob Ford is a shameful misogynist. He's a disgusting human being that ought to resign from office. His actions have been completely indecent. Quote
Boges Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 How did that Ontario provincial election turn out? Faced with a leader that had a wishy washy platform that really didn't differ a whole lot from McGuinty's the Ontario Liberals lost about 25 seats and now have a minority government as opposed to the strong majority the received in 2007. I think the Ontario Liberals should probably have a bit of humility from this result. But that's not what this thread is about. Everyone knew Rob Ford was like this when they elected him. It's just disappointing that his reaction has allowed the CBC to skate on their heinous behaviour. Quote
msj Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 It's just disappointing that his reaction has allowed the CBC to skate on their heinous behaviour. What "heinous behaviour?" I know that some people and some in the media are portraying this as an "ambush" but watch the video. Hardly an ambush and, even if it was, all one has to do is politely decline any interview, get in one's vehicle and drive away. But no, Rob f'ing drama queen Ford has to do it his way. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Black Dog Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 McGuinty's broken dozens of promises. That's far worse than a 911 call. He should resign immediately. So has Ford. Quote
capricorn Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 It's just disappointing that his reaction has allowed the CBC to skate on their heinous behaviour. A police source said the mayor got impatient and called the 9-1-1 service a second time and got into a heated discussion with the dispatchers.The source, who is familiar with the events, disagreed however with a CBC Radio report that said Mr. Ford had used profanities in his discussion with the dispatcher. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/toronto/torontos-rob-ford-verbally-abusive-but-reports-of-911-profanity-inaccurate-source/article2215608/ The way things are going this may turn out to be more about the CBC's actions than Ford's reaction. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Black Dog Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 Is there proof he did this yet? There may be but since 911 calls are supposed to stay private we might never hear it. There's a good reason people are finding this story credible and it's nowt to do with political orientation. for example: Ford admits lying to media about drunken outburst Ford, a right-leaning, law-and-order councillor, says he had too much to drink before going to a Maple Leafs game at the Air Canada Centre on April 15.According to a couple sitting nearby, Ford was boisterous and insulting, shouting obscenities before he and a companion were escorted out of the arena by security guards. Also it's odd that a 911 operator would act all traumatized from hearing a few F-bombs. I'm sure she hears worse everyday. How do you know she's acting traumatized and not simply reporting what went down? Quote
Boges Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 (edited) There's a good reason people are finding this story credible and it's nowt to do with political orientation. for example: Ford admits lying to media about drunken outburst How do you know she's acting traumatized and not simply reporting what went down? Because reports say she was. But now there's this from that Conservative Rag: The Globe and Mail. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/toronto/torontos-rob-ford-verbally-abusive-but-reports-of-911-profanity-inaccurate-source/article2215608/ A police source said the mayor got impatient and called the 9-1-1 service a second time and got into a heated discussion with the dispatchers. The source, who is familiar with the events, disagreed however with a CBC Radio report that said Mr. Ford had used profanities in his discussion with the dispatcher. Edited October 27, 2011 by Boges Quote
Black Dog Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 Because reports say she was. Cite? But now there's this from that Conservative Rag: The Globe and Mail. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/toronto/torontos-rob-ford-verbally-abusive-but-reports-of-911-profanity-inaccurate-source/article2215608/ I wonder if 9-11 calls are subject to FOI. Quote
Shady Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 So has Ford. Cool. Maybe they should both resign. I'd take that deal in a second! Quote
Boges Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 Cite? http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2011/10/27/rob-ford-911-call.html Appearing on CBC News Network on Thursday morning, CBC reporter Dave Seglins said dispatchers are "incensed" about the language Ford used during the 911 call and have complained to their union. Do they file a union grievance everytime a caller gets mad at them or only when a Conservative politician does it? Quote
Wild Bill Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 How do you know she's acting traumatized and not simply reporting what went down? Or she's trying to cover their asses for such a long response time to an emergency call, even if it wasn't for the mayor! If Ford called her the second time 10 minutes after his first call it's a damn good thing he wasn't bleeding! All this brouhaha is about Ford's character, as a weapon against his actual approach to running Toronto. The Left knows that he must be popular with the majority of Toronto's citizens, since he won the election. He won because of what he promised to DO, not how he promised to handle CBC ambushes! That leaves the Left with no effective weapons in those areas, so their best tactic is ad hominem attacks, hoping to make him look like a dork. That way, next election he can be beaten easily by someone like George "Snuffleupagus", the "hip" CBC interviewer, who LOOKS cool but doesn't have a practical bone in his body! I sincerely wish that Toronto would get a whole string of mayors like David Miller. That way they would go bankrupt. As long as the rest of us don't have to pay taxes to bail them out it would at least eventually shut up their perpetual whining. Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Black Dog Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2011/10/27/rob-ford-911-call.html Do they file a union grievance everytime a caller gets mad at them or only when a Conservative politician does it? "Incensed" is not "traumatized." Rob Ford is not a "Conservative politician." He's their boss. I'd be pissed off. Wouldn't you? Quote
guyser Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 (edited) Or she's trying to cover their asses for such a long response time to an emergency call, even if it wasn't for the mayor! Response time was likely predicated on his "no I am not in danger, no one is injured, I am just upset" and they sent out an APB...'guy mad someone w a camera is talking to him'. If Ford called her the second time 10 minutes after his first call it's a damn good thing he wasn't bleeding! Had he said he was bleeding ( and he is metaphorically)the response would have been immediate. All this brouhaha is about Ford's character, Of course it is! He lied, he swore at his city's employees as Mayor, what else could this be about? ... as a weapon against his actual approach to running Toronto. The Left knows that he must be popular with the majority of Toronto's citizens, since he won the election. He won because of what he promised to DO, not how he promised to handle CBC ambushes!That leaves the Left with no effective weapons in those areas, so their best tactic is ad hominem attacks, hoping to make him look like a dork. That way, next election he can be beaten easily by someone like George "Snuffleupagus", the "hip" CBC interviewer, who LOOKS cool but doesn't have a practical bone in his body! I sincerely wish that Toronto would get a whole string of mayors like David Miller. That way they would go bankrupt. As long as the rest of us don't have to pay taxes to bail them out it would at least eventually shut up their perpetual whining. His actual approach to running this city is what this is connected too. He went out on a platform to cut the fat, without knowing what fat existed (kind of none-KPMG) so he has been neutered by his own actions. He doesnt want to tell anyone whats going on. No one is making him look like a dork, he does just fine all by himself. Perpetual whiners live in 905 and beyond. If not for TO , this province would have problems. You're welcome to all our tax money we send outside the 416. We really dont need to much kept back, we'll be alright. Edited October 27, 2011 by guyser Quote
Boges Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 Perpetual whiners live in 905 and beyond. If not for TO , this province would have problems. You're welcome to all our tax money we send outside the 416. We really dont need to much kept back, we'll be alright. Yeah the 905 isn't growing and creating wealth at all. Quote
Black Dog Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 Or she's trying to cover their asses for such a long response time to an emergency call, even if it wasn't for the mayor! If Ford called her the second time 10 minutes after his first call it's a damn good thing he wasn't bleeding! Perhaps the response time would of been faster were there an actual emergency. All this brouhaha is about Ford's character, as a weapon against his actual approach to running Toronto. The Left knows that he must be popular with the majority of Toronto's citizens, since he won the election. He won because of what he promised to DO, not how he promised to handle CBC ambushes!That leaves the Left with no effective weapons in those areas, so their best tactic is ad hominem attacks, hoping to make him look like a dork. That way, next election he can be beaten easily by someone like George "Snuffleupagus", the "hip" CBC interviewer, who LOOKS cool but doesn't have a practical bone in his body! Where have you been? Ford's popularity has been dropping like a stone. As for the notion that they are attacking his character for want of other weapons: nope. We have a whole wealth of broken promises, lies and crap policies for that. The character stuff is just-ahem-gravy. I sincerely wish that Toronto would get a whole string of mayors like David Miller. That way they would go bankrupt. As long as the rest of us don't have to pay taxes to bail them out it would at least eventually shut up their perpetual whining. You wouldn't be laughing if Toronto, a city that pays far more into the national wealth than it gets back and the major part of a region that accounts for one-fifth of Canada's GDP, went bankrupt. Idiot. Quote
Boges Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 (facepalm) Wild Bill totally sidetracked this thread. BTW I knew Ford's popularity would come up. If mid term poll number meant anything then Dalton McGuinty wouldn't still be premier and Obama is royally fucked next year. Quote
WWWTT Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 Or she's trying to cover their asses for such a long response time to an emergency call, even if it wasn't for the mayor! If Ford called her the second time 10 minutes after his first call it's a damn good thing he wasn't bleeding! All this brouhaha is about Ford's character, as a weapon against his actual approach to running Toronto. The Left knows that he must be popular with the majority of Toronto's citizens, since he won the election. He won because of what he promised to DO, not how he promised to handle CBC ambushes! Oh so it was perfectly fine for him to call 911 in the first place? This 911 operator could probably tell that Rob Fords case "was not" an emergency.And rightfully so!I believe part of the operators training would be the ability to tell between real calls and not so important ones. Rob Ford used poor judgement.This isn't some guy working at Tim Hortons.This is the mayor of Canadas largest city!This has nothing to do with character!Judgement has to be one of the most important aspects in being a politician! As far as the profanity thing goes and callind a second time,lets find out if any of this is true first. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Wild Bill Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 You wouldn't be laughing if Toronto, a city that pays far more into the national wealth than it gets back and the major part of a region that accounts for one-fifth of Canada's GDP, went bankrupt. Idiot. Cite please? Rude and arrogant crankbag! See, I can be just as childish as you! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Shady Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 Cite please? Rude and arrogant crankbag! See, I can be just as childish as you! That's all Black Dogg's good at. Name calling. Quote
Wild Bill Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 Yeah the 905 isn't growing and creating wealth at all. When I was an on the road salesman I didn't have a single account in old Toronto. There were none! Everything was in Mississauga or Pickering and north of the 401. Not surprising, considering first taxes and then under amalgamation you need a helicopter to go to work in old Toronto, unless you are fortunate enough to live in the core and can take public transit. If you have to come in from outside in a car you're screwed! I would suggest that the idea that Toronto's wealth comes from the 416 area comes from school textbooks likely over 40 years old! For practical purposes, it's ALL from the 905! Old Toronto is where they COUNT money, not MAKE it! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Wild Bill Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 That's all Black Dogg's good at. Name calling. I've noticed over the years! Under that alias MUST be somebody I once voted for... Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
guyser Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 Yeah the 905 isn't growing and creating wealth at all. Sure it is! Didnt say different. But a $4B difference between paid and services recieved, in the Provinces favour, sure tells a different story. Quote
Black Dog Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 Cite please? Canada's GDP is around $1.3 Billion. The GTA's GDP is around $323 billion. Do the math. Quote
Black Dog Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 That's all Black Dogg's good at. Name calling. Even if that were true, that'd be one more thing I'd be good at than you Shitty. Quote
Boges Posted October 27, 2011 Report Posted October 27, 2011 Canada's GDP is around $1.3 Billion. The GTA's GDP is around $323 billion. Do the math. That's actually not citing. That's stating an unsupported fact. Not that I disagree with you however. Quote
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