Mayor Ford calls 911 on CBC comedians

Rick · December 30, 2011

I'm starting to think that perhaps Children's Aid should be asked to investigate Ford's actions.

With his drinking problem.....

911 calls to Ford’s home a sensitive issue

Early Christmas morning, police were called to the home of Mayor Rob Ford about a reported domestic dispute. It was the second such call in as many months.
On Oct. 25, less than 15 hours after Ford himself called 911 regarding the intrusion of the comedy show This Hour has 22 Minutes on his property, officers from 22 Division were back at the Etobicoke residence on a domestic call.

On Christmas, Ford’s mother-in-law called police between 4 and 5 a.m. to report that the mayor had been drinking and was taking his children to Florida against the wishes of his wife, Renata.

The Toronto police Youth and Family Violence Unit, which handles all domestic disputes, including incidents that are strictly verbal, is still investigating both events. No charges have been laid.

An interview request submitted to Ford’s office, which detailed the contents of this story, went unanswered.

According to numerous police and emergency service sources, 911 calls to the mayor’s Edenbridge Dr. home are a reality for the South Etobicoke division. Exactly how many calls have been made is unknown.

The calls leave police in an uncomfortable quandary. Ford is the city’s chief magistrate. The mayor — or a designate acting on his behalf — has a seat on the police board. In fact, four of the seven board members are appointed by city council. Police Chief Bill Blair reports to this civilian oversight board.

The chief was unavailable for comment Thursday, according to spokesman Mark Pugash, who said Ford’s position “absolutely” does not put police in a difficult situation.

“The procedures don’t take into account the social position or occupation of a person being investigated or charged.”

Through sources, the Star has heard about a handful of incidents in recent years, but a freedom of information request to the police service for a list of 911 calls relating to homes on Edenbridge Dr. over a five-year period was only partially granted. The dates for calls were removed.

A secondary request filed specifically for Oct. 25 was denied in part because the personal information was gathered “as part of an investigation into a possible violation of law.”

Sources say senior police officials are aware of these calls and there have been discussions on how to deal with media questions about them. Only one other domestic dispute involving Ford has ever been reported.

In March 2008, Ford, then still a councillor, called 911 after a conflict with Renata. Ford said she was acting “irrational.” He left their home with the couple’s children. Police later charged him with assault and uttering a death threat. Both charges were dropped two months later due to inconsistencies in Renata’s story. At the time, Ford told reporters the couple had begun counseling and that he supports his wife and she him.

Four years later, the 911 calls persist.

For Councillor Adam Vaughan, a former police board member, there is a sensitive balancing act between personal privacy and possible conflicts.

“What’s changed since the last time events made the headlines is that he has a designate on the police service board and he is involved directly with negotiations around the budget . . . the mayor can’t handle this the same way he handled it before.

“He has a higher burden of responsibility here. If he’s involved with the police, either with calling them or having them called against him. . . he’s got to be much more clear how he’s exercising this authority and whether or not there is any potential conflict.”

That probably would mean making a public declaration about what’s going on, he said.

“That being said, clearly he is dealing with some significant private issues. . . he needs the time and the space to deal with that.”

Det. Jacqueline Baus, the detective investigating the incidents, confirmed both cases are still open, but refused to provide details of either. It is typical practice in a domestic investigation, when an allegation of physical abuse is made, for the police to lay a charge. There is no evidence, as far as the Star is aware, of physical violence in either incident.

Edited December 30, 2011 by Rick

Shakeyhands · December 30, 2011

With his drinking problem.....

With this revelation I am certainly concerned about the "Marg 911 Call".... The Mayor was forced to scream and curse at the 911 dispatcher allegedly about their delay in responding to the call, surely after being called out to his house so many times they would know the quickest way to get there and could have reduced their response time significantly!

This guy sure is a piece of work!

Boges · December 30, 2011

With this revelation I am certainly concerned about the "Marg 911 Call".... The Mayor was forced to scream and curse at the 911 dispatcher allegedly about their delay in responding to the call, surely after being called out to his house so many times they would know the quickest way to get there and could have reduced their response time significantly!

This guy sure is a piece of work!

According to the Chief of Police he only used one expletive and didn't rant and rave. But it's nice that unsubstantiated claims by the CBC have now become believed to be true.

There's no evidence of child abuse here. And who doesn't drink on Christmas Eve? I sure was. :rolleyes:

Black Dog · December 30, 2011

I'll say this much for Ford; while with other politicians one senses their public and private personas are quite different, with Robbo, what you see is what you get: a boor in either sphere.

Rick · December 30, 2011

According to the Chief of Police he only used one expletive and didn't rant and rave. But it's nice that unsubstantiated claims by the CBC have now become believed to be true.

There's no evidence of child abuse here. And who doesn't drink on Christmas Eve? I sure was.

Most people with kids at home don't drink so much that they're hammered enough to have 911 calls placed to their residence at 4am...

It begs the question...did he answer the door in one of these...

Boges · December 30, 2011

Most people with kids at home don't drink so much that they're hammered enough to have 911 calls placed to their residence at 4am...

It begs the question...did he answer the door in one of these...

Now you're implying he beat his wife. Any evidence to support this.

Apparently the issue was over a vacation the wife didn't agree on.

We'll see when more information is released.

Rick · December 30, 2011

Now you're implying he beat his wife. Any evidence to support this.

Apparently the issue was over a vacation the wife didn't agree on.

We'll see when more information is released.

Multiple 911 calls to his house with multiple incidents that The Toronto police Youth and Family Violence Unit, which handles all domestic disputes, are still investigating...

Where there's smoke...there's a drunk Rob Ford.

History repeats itself.

Boges · December 30, 2011

Multiple 911 calls to his house with multiple incidents that The Toronto police Youth and Family Violence Unit, which handles all domestic disputes, are still investigating...

Where there's smoke...there's a drunk Rob Ford.

History repeats itself.

If no charges end up being laid will you take that back?

cybercoma · December 30, 2011

According to the Chief of Police he only used one expletive and didn't rant and rave. But it's nice that unsubstantiated claims by the CBC have now become believed to be true.

There's no evidence of child abuse here. And who doesn't drink on Christmas Eve? I sure was.

People that are abusive to their wife and kids when they're drunk probably shouldn't be though.

cybercoma · December 30, 2011

Funny how Ford isn't hiring any more emergency service workers (there was supposed to be 340 more hired for 2012), yet he has 911 on speed dial.

LonJowett · December 30, 2011

And who doesn't drink on Christmas Eve? I sure was.

Exactly. And who doesn't regularly call 911 (or have people call it on them) when they've been drinking? We've all been there. :rolleyes:

Boges · December 30, 2011

Exactly. And who doesn't regularly call 911 (or have people call it on them) when they've been drinking? We've all been there.

Never said that.

Personally I'd like to hear the tape of this 911 call.

I wonder if the lady said. I'M ROB EFFIN FORD'S MOTHER IN LAW!!! :rolleyes:

Shakeyhands · December 30, 2011

According to the Chief of Police he only used one expletive and didn't rant and rave. But it's nice that unsubstantiated claims by the CBC have now become believed to be true.

Do you know what allegedly means?

Rick · December 30, 2011

Do any of you Ford defenders seriously think that a man whose family finds his anger so threatening that the police are called, not just once but on multiple occasions, is truely,a fit leader?

Shady · December 30, 2011

Do any of you Ford defenders seriously think that a man whose family finds his anger so threatening that the police are called, not just once but on multiple occasions, is truely,a fit leader?

First, you need to provide us with proof that you don't beat YOUR wife.

Rick · December 30, 2011

First, you need to provide us with proof that you don't beat YOUR wife.

:rolleyes:

The topic is about Rob Ford Shady, try and keep up and quit with the red herrings..

Your failure to answer the question about your belief in Rob Ford though is duly noted.

I'll put you down as one who thinks he's not fit.

Boges · December 30, 2011

:rolleyes:

The topic is about Rob Ford Shady, try and keep up and quit with the red herrings..

Your failure to answer the question about your belief in Rob Ford though is duly noted.

I'll put you down as one who thinks he's not fit.

He's admitted to being arrested Twice and he still got elected.

He didn't even get arrested here, as Ford stories go this is rather tame.

NWRS · December 30, 2011

I'm no fan of the guy, but who doesn't have a crazy MIL? I'm pretty sure mine would do the same to me for little or no reason, but she's bat shit crazy.

cybercoma · December 30, 2011

I'm no fan of the guy, but who doesn't have a crazy MIL? I'm pretty sure mine would do the same to me for little or no reason, but she's bat shit crazy.

Blame the victim. Nice.

NWRS · December 31, 2011

Blame the victim. Nice.

Sorry, what victim? Has it been proven who the victim(s) are yet? Maybe his MIL hates him and jumped the gun on the 911 call, stranger things have happened, but anyway, it wouldn't surprise me that he is an insufferable ass at home.

Btw, if you want to accuse me of blaming any victim please put more effort into it, that was a sad attempt.

December 31, 2011

This article - Ford says story wrong on 911 call - puts a different light on it.

A Christmas Day 911 call from Mayor Rob Ford’s home alleging the mayor was drunk and trying to take his kids out of the country against his wife’s wishes was just plain false, members of the Ford family said Friday.

[...]

There are dozens of domestic calls at Christmas but this one seemed to land on the front page of the very newspaper Ford is feuding with. Last time it was an erroneously leaked report to the left-leaning CBC that Chief Bill Blair told reporters incorrectly quoted Mayor Ford calling dispatchers “bitches.”

Who has it in for Ford in the 911 office and will Blair now investigate internally?

According to the article, drinking was a factor in the issue, but not by Ford.

Boges · December 31, 2011

What I find rather hilarious about this issue is if you look earlier in this thread many people say Ford should be charged for calling 911 on Marg. They said it's a waste of police resources to call over what they deemed to be a simple prank.

BUT I'm sure the same people think Ford's MiL was perfectly justified in calling 911, because we all know Ford is a bad person afterall.

All that was said was that he wanted to go to Florida and his wife disagreed, And he had been drinking. No evidence of abuse no evidence of violence. Married couples fight. Do you really want people to be calling 911 over every marital spat you have?

Unless evidence is provided that he was violent to his family or actually was about to "abduct" the kids, this is ultimately a non-story.

msj · December 31, 2011

What I find rather hilarious about this issue is if you look earlier in this thread many people say Ford should be charged for calling 911 on Marg. They said it's a waste of police resources to call over what they deemed to be a simple prank.

If many people claimed Ford should be charged then it should be easy to quote those people, no?

I've reviewed the first 10 pages or so of this thread and found references to Ford's poor judgement but not the "many people" writing that he should be charged.

So, cite please.

BUT I'm sure the same people think Ford's MiL was perfectly justified in calling 911, because we all know Ford is a bad person afterall.

Unless you can prove your claim above about "many people say Ford should be charged for calling 911 on Marg" I don't think you are in any position to speak for anyone else on this issue.

All that was said was that he wanted to go to Florida and his wife disagreed, And he had been drinking. No evidence of abuse no evidence of violence. Married couples fight. Do you really want people to be calling 911 over every marital spat you have?

Unless evidence is provided that he was violent to his family or actually was about to "abduct" the kids, this is ultimately a non-story.

I agree.

The evidence in this case is sketchy, at best, and his MIL showed a lack of judgement in calling 911, just like Ford did back in October.