wyly Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Actually, the wars are about the only thing keeping the USA from going completely under in a NY minute. The industrial military complex is the only thing keeping the USA afloat. wars aren't always good for the economy but they distract the population from domestic problems... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
olp1fan Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 well if there is a thing in Iran...prepare for the battle lord Harper to summon the Canadian Forces Quote
GostHacked Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 wars aren't always good for the economy but they distract the population from domestic problems... True, not always good, but what would keep the US floating economically if it was not for the military and the industries supporting it? Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com
Shady Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Iran is more careful than this, this was very shoddy amateurish Yes, Iran is so brilliant and competent, that they have to export all of their oil. Get it refined in other countries. And then import it back into their country. They're so brilliant and competent that they openly fund terrorist groups like Hezbollah in other countries, undermining and influencing the legitimate governments in those countries. Quote
Shady Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 They're also so brilliant, they work cooperatively with North Korea on nuclear weapons programs. But yeah, this plot, they would never do such a thing. Quote
olp1fan Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) They're also so brilliant, they work cooperatively with North Korea on nuclear weapons programs. But yeah, this plot, they would never do such a thing. according to ex cia and people who've studied iran for decades this plot isn't likethem i believe them over you btw canada wants to refine oil in the US so they can sell it back to us too i agree we are not a competent country Edited October 13, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
Guest American Woman Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 reading that link it seems quite a strech of logic to link that plot to iran... Good Grief. Do you actually think by reading that link you are privy to the information that the Obama administration has at their disposal?? Quote
olp1fan Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Yes, Iran is so brilliant and competent, that they have to export all of their oil. Get it refined in other countries. And then import it back into their country. They're so brilliant and competent that they openly fund terrorist groups like Hezbollah in other countries, undermining and influencing the legitimate governments in those countries. the CIA is a pretty big terrorist group too Quote
olp1fan Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) Good Grief. Do you actually think by reading that link you are privy to the information that the Obama administration has at their disposal?? After the Iraq WMD fiasco no American should believe their government Edited October 13, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
Guest American Woman Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 After the Iraq WMD fiasco no American should believe their government Riiiiight. Because "our government" and "Bush Administration" are synonymous....and will be for the rest of time. Is Obama telling the truth? NO! Proof? BUSH misled the public. :rolleyes: Quote
GostHacked Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Riiiiight. Because "our government" and "Bush Administration" are synonymous....and will be for the rest of time. Is Obama telling the truth? NO! Proof? BUSH misled the public. :rolleyes: So ignoring the actions of the past administrations has no bearing on the actions of current or future administrations? Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com
Guest American Woman Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 So ignoring the actions of the past administrations has no bearing on the actions of current or future administrations? Do your views on what Harper says and does hinge on what Chretien said and did?? Quote
GostHacked Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Do your views on what Harper says and does hinge on what Chretien said and did?? There is some relevance to it yes. Chretien may have done things in the government that allowed Harper to do some of the things he is doing today. Remember, policy of the country does not change with the elected leader. Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com
Shady Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 according to ex cia and people who've studied iran for decades this plot isn't likethem Which ex CIA? All of them? Or just the one's you agree with? And how isn't the plot like them? Do you think you're aware of all of their plots over the years? And if it isn't like them, does that mean they'll never do something like that ever? Of course not. You're much too trustworthy of a totalitarian regime that kills it's own people protesting, and forbids any free press or criticizm of the government. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 There is some relevance to it yes. Chretien may have done things in the government that allowed Harper to do some of the things he is doing today. Remember, policy of the country does not change with the elected leader. If you say so. But FYI, it isn't the "policy of the [u.S.]" to mislead the public. Quote
Shady Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 If you say so. But FYI, it isn't the "policy of the [u.S.]" to mislead the public. He's a 911 truther. I wouldn't bother engaging him. He's right up there with holocaust deniers. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 He's a 911 truther. I wouldn't bother engaging him. He's right up there with holocaust deniers. I'm wondering how much Canadian policy has changed since y'all burned down the White House. Quote
blueblood Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Iran has the most advanced cruise missile technology available, there is no effective defense, warships in the persian gulf are quite literally sitting ducks...the US will win any full out war but the cost will be high, carriers will be lost... More advanced than the tomahawk, I am skeptical about that. I'd need a bc2004, army guy or smallc confirmation on that one. Its not like nato countries didn't learn their lesson from the brits adventure in the falklands. I don't see any carriers being lost. This is like the fears of iraqs army 20 yrs ago, with iraq having the best soviet kit money could buy. Estimates were about 25 percent US casualties, how did that turn out Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
olp1fan Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Riiiiight. Because "our government" and "Bush Administration" are synonymous....and will be for the rest of time. Is Obama telling the truth? NO! Proof? BUSH misled the public. :rolleyes: Obamas as much of a liar Bush was In fact your own govnmt armed the cartels why should we believe them? gitmo hasnt been shut down and youre still in iraq and afghanistan Quote
olp1fan Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) Of course not. You're much too trustworthy of a totalitarian regime you're wrong, I do not trust the American government Edited October 13, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
olp1fan Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 I'm wondering how much Canadian policy has changed since y'all burned down the White House. The British burned it down, lucky bastards! Quote
Guest American Woman Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 The British burned it down, lucky bastards! Not from what I hear tell. Quote
olp1fan Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Not from what I hear tell. well, canadians like to think that cause we're a bunch of socialist america haters Quote
jbg Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 If the CIA gets out of Iran, maybe Iran will get out of the US. Why are you looking for a way to blame any Western country you can find, i.e. Israel or the U.S.? Remember, we're civilized, they aren't. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
olp1fan Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Why are you looking for a way to blame any Western country you can find, i.e. Israel or the U.S.? Remember, we're civilized, they aren't. we aren't that civillized Quote
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