Scotty Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 The problem with Ezra is that he rightfully criticizes SA for HR abuses, but does not recognize the human (and animal) impact of environmental destruction in Alberta You haven't demonstrated that there is any environmental destruction in Alberta. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
Scotty Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) You're right....he's like Glenn Beck. Rush Limbaugh, after all, isn't insane. I've caught bits and pieces of Ezra's show now and then. Nothing about it strikes me as insane. I think what you really mean to say is that if anyone doesn't agree with your political and social views they are insane. Have I got that right? Edited October 11, 2011 by Scotty Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
bud Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 Bob didn't call for ethnic cleansing. He said that if the same conflict in the ME happened here, then it would be considered as a possible response. Please don't put words in other posters' mouths. looks like you didn't pay attention and didn't read the post and the thread carefully. bob repeatedly advocates for the expulsion (ethnic cleansing) of palestinians. try reading again: Maybe not all of them. But definitely many of them. And they're only going to be moved a few kilometres, either way. The Arabs were given about 80% of the British Mandate for Palestine, so let the rest of them join their "brothers and sisters". It's important to remember that my call for their removal isn't on a whim, it's based on about a century of violence that we've been victimized by from their side. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
guyser Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) If Ezra goes on a rant and nobody hears , is it still a rant? If he wants to be seen, he should apply at the CBC . At least they get measurable ratings ! Edited October 11, 2011 by guyser Quote
Smallc Posted October 11, 2011 Report Posted October 11, 2011 I think what you really mean to say is that if anyone doesn't agree with your political and social views they are insane. Have I got that right? No, you haven't got it. I've already said that Rush Limbaugh isn't insane. Neither is Charles Adler. Ezra Levant is. Quote
Wild Bill Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 If Ezra goes on a rant and nobody hears , is it still a rant? If he wants to be seen, he should apply at the CBC . At least they get measurable ratings ! Well, they're still rather new! What's the basis of your opinion of their ratings? Have you a cite? Are their ratings getting better or staying stagnant? Me, I've never liked the CBC's news, not just for their obvious bias but also because they fill their news time with documentaries about blind lesbian fiddlin' riverdancers or homosexual logrollers in northern Alberta! It's mostly stuff I just don't care about! Even when they do something with fabulous cinematography, like ice recession in the high Arctic, they always have to mix it up with politically correct "science", presenting the ice withdrawal as absolutely part of global warming, which is absolutely 100% unnatural and totally the fault of evil industrialists and Canadians who refuse to buy the new compact florescent light bulbs! I've never seen a CBC tv personality yet who I would trust to replace the plug on a lamp. Anyhow, I LIKE SUN-TV! Especially the women anchors! I love to see them push "ethical oil" and break the story about how the Saudis tried to bully our TV with lawsuits! I howled when I found out that CTV had simply caved! Great entertainment! To be fair, over the years I have preferred CTV but only as a last resort. Anyhow, give SUN a couple of years and we'll see how the ratings stand up. Right now, since we've never really had any news from the "right" how can we say if many Canadians like it? Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
blueblood Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 No, you haven't got it. I've already said that Rush Limbaugh isn't insane. Neither is Charles Adler. Ezra Levant is. Oh let's be real here, the sun news guys might be over the top, but insane, no. Ezra is a bit of a pompous ass, but his show is basically low taxes, small govt, and more personal freedom. The other guys on there have more extreme views than he does. Ezra comes off as a pompous ass. If anybody pisses me off on that channel its adler. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
blueblood Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Well, they're still rather new! What's the basis of your opinion of their ratings? Have you a cite? Are their ratings getting better or staying stagnant? Me, I've never liked the CBC's news, not just for their obvious bias but also because they fill their news time with documentaries about blind lesbian fiddlin' riverdancers or homosexual logrollers in northern Alberta! It's mostly stuff I just don't care about! Even when they do something with fabulous cinematography, like ice recession in the high Arctic, they always have to mix it up with politically correct "science", presenting the ice withdrawal as absolutely part of global warming, which is absolutely 100% unnatural and totally the fault of evil industrialists and Canadians who refuse to buy the new compact florescent light bulbs! I've never seen a CBC tv personality yet who I would trust to replace the plug on a lamp. Anyhow, I LIKE SUN-TV! Especially the women anchors! I love to see them push "ethical oil" and break the story about how the Saudis tried to bully our TV with lawsuits! I howled when I found out that CTV had simply caved! Great entertainment! To be fair, over the years I have preferred CTV but only as a last resort. Anyhow, give SUN a couple of years and we'll see how the ratings stand up. Right now, since we've never really had any news from the "right" how can we say if many Canadians like it? Apparently SNN has comparable ratings to other canadian news networks which is what SNN is, and it isn't much. Its not supposed to compete with the main ctv and cbc because it doesn't carry actual "normal" shows or sports. All SNN is, is a giant ass discussion on conservatism in canada. If you seen one show you've seen them all. That's why I prefer ctvnn, all it is, is what goes on during the day in a loop. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Smallc Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Oh let's be real here, the sun news guys might be over the top, but insane, no. Ezra is a bit of a pompous ass, but his show is basically low taxes, small govt, and more personal freedom. No, his views are beyond what you're making them out to be. He's a social Conservative that never bothers to let facts get in his way, and he's willing to go as far over the top as is necessary to make his point. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 I've caught bits and pieces of Ezra's show now and then. Nothing about it strikes me as insane. I've watched his show. He isn't insane. He isn't Glenn Beck. Sometimes he can go off on rants that are totally off-base (and can be an ass), but I find he has pretty typical conservative views ie: small government, reduction of the "nanny state", protecting civil liberties etc. He can sometimes make valid points, though ones I may not always agree with. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Smallc Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 It's the length and extremity that he goes to in order to make his point. It's exactly the same kind of arguments that Glenn Beck constructs. Quote
bud Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 the theatre is the same. they have, with the help from fox, shaped their channel similar to them. ezra levant is not as simple as glenn beck, but he does have an obnoxiousness which can be found often in beck. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
Michael Hardner Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 bob repeatedly advocates for the expulsion (ethnic cleansing) of palestinians. Those are different things. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Black Dog Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 I've watched his show. He isn't insane. He isn't Glenn Beck. Sometimes he can go off on rants that are totally off-base (and can be an ass), but I find he has pretty typical conservative views ie: small government, reduction of the "nanny state", protecting civil liberties etc. He can sometimes make valid points, though ones I may not always agree with. I'll say this about Beck over Levant: the former is never boring. Ezra still seems like the same little weasel with a massive chip on his shoulder as when he was the resident neocon at the U of A. Quote
Smallc Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) Yes, I agree. Ezra Levant is extremely uninteresting. Edited October 12, 2011 by Smallc Quote
Bob Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Clearly Smallc's perceptions of the media are worthless, when a guy like Ezra Levant is labelled "insane". Although your screen name is funny, there's certainly nothing conservative about you, whatsoever. There's also nothing pompous or arrogant about Levant. He may be animated, and he's funny, but of course leftists have no sense of humour and prefer the robots at the CBC who think objective and unbiased "journalism" is about demeanour, and not about language. Levant is easily my favourite Canadian TV personality. Blueblood, there is nothing over-the-top whatsoever about Sun TV. What is over-the-top is the pathetic bias of the CBC and most of the Canadian media landscape, which Levant has aptly dubbed "the consensus media". I agree with you on one thing, however, and that is that Charles Adler is uninteresting and boring. Quote My blog - bobinisrael.blogspot.com - I am writing on it, again!
guyser Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) Well, they're still rather new! What's the basis of your opinion of their ratings? Have you a cite? Are their ratings getting better or staying stagnant? Last I looked, or were released, they were pretty low. Dont forget they are on an OTA channel, so they should rightfully be lumped in w CTV and CBC news, not CTVNW or CBCNN. They were getting killed in the OTA slot. They move to a cable channel, (pay to view) this month or next so we shall see if people dole out the cash soon. Me, I've never liked the CBC's news, not just for their obvious bias but also because they fill their news time with documentaries about blind lesbian fiddlin' riverdancers or homosexual logrollers in northern Alberta! It's mostly stuff I just don't care about! Even when they do something with fabulous cinematography, like ice recession in the high Arctic, they always have to mix it up with politically correct "science", presenting the ice withdrawal as absolutely part of global warming, which is absolutely 100% unnatural and totally the fault of evil industrialists and Canadians who refuse to buy the new compact florescent light bulbs! I've never seen a CBC tv personality yet who I would trust to replace the plug on a lamp. Not much to argue there! Anyhow, I LIKE SUN-TV! Especially the women anchors! I love to see them push "ethical oil" and break the story about how the Saudis tried to bully our TV with lawsuits! I howled when I found out that CTV had simply caved! Great entertainment! To be fair, over the years I have preferred CTV but only as a last resort. Anyhow, give SUN a couple of years and we'll see how the ratings stand up. Right now, since we've never really had any news from the "right" how can we say if many Canadians like it? Few watch it so.....how can they like if they dont watch? I dont think they will last at all. The bleeding has to be bad for them and how lonbg cqan PK ask shareholders to wait? Look, I mock them only because they find out what the others are doing then find some obscure thing to focus their news on , all in the name of "you wont see this on the other networks".......thats because no one really cares to see it either on cbc, ctv global or snn. Edited October 12, 2011 by guyser Quote
guyser Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Clearly bobs perceptions of the media are worthless seeing as he never watches SNN, other wise a fool wouldnt say... There's also nothing pompous or arrogant about Levant. Without pompousness or arrogance he is nothing. Sounds familiar.....have we seen bob and ezra in the same room at the same time? Quote
Smallc Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) Clearly Smallc's perceptions of the media are worthless, when a guy like Ezra Levant is labelled "insane". Although your screen name is funny, there's certainly nothing conservative about you, whatsoever. Yes, and how are things inside the bubble? I'm sorry that I don't believe in the sky man, and I'm sorry that I don't hate immigrants, or all people from the left of the spectrum (left of me), or the right of the spectrum for that matter (again, right of me). That isn't though, all there is to conservatism. There's also nothing pompous or arrogant about Levant. He may be animated, and he's funny, but of course leftists have no sense of humour and prefer the robots at the CBC who think objective and unbiased "journalism" is about demeanour, and not about language. Levant is easily my favourite Canadian TV personality. There's one thing I've always found about right wing comedy - it's not funny. It's fine that you like Levant, but you're going to have to own everything that foes with that. Blueblood, there is nothing over-the-top whatsoever about Sun TV. What is over-the-top is the pathetic bias of the CBC and most of the Canadian media landscape, which Levant has aptly dubbed "the consensus media". I agree with you on one thing, however, and that is that Charles Adler is uninteresting and boring. Charles Adler is a pompous, self promoting, windbag. That said, his ideas are far more mainstream and understandable to human beings. Edited October 12, 2011 by Smallc Quote
Wild Bill Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 (edited) Last I looked, or were released, they were pretty low. Dont forget they are on an OTA channel, so they should rightfully be lumped in w CTV and CBC news, not CTVNW or CBCNN. They were getting killed in the OTA slot. They move to a cable channel, (pay to view) this month or next so we shall see if people dole out the cash soon. Going to cable I can understand but I'll be disappointed if they stop their OTA transmission. I gave up cable and satellite in favour of my own OTA system. I just finally got pissed off with having to buy a package with 10 boring specialty channels like "The Shopping Channel" and "The Watching Paint Dry" channel just to get ONE channel like Space or History! Screw 'em and the horses they rode in on! Hopefully they will maintain the OTA. If they already had an investment in transmitters it doesn't make much sense to scrap them after only a year or so. Those things ain't cheap! 'Specially with the antennae and the land to go with them. Edited October 12, 2011 by Wild Bill Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
guyser Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Going to cable I can understand but I'll be disappointed if they stop their OTA transmission. I gave up cable and satellite in favour of my own OTA system. Hopefully they will maintain the PTA. If they already had an investment in transmitters it doesn't make much sense to scrap them after only a year or so. Those things ain't cheap! 'Specially with the antennae and the land to go with them. They had no choice, they knew they would not win with the CRTC. The gave up their licence quite some time ago, it takes effect at the end of this month, October. If they can make a go of it, fine, but I doubt it. BBM measurements dictate advert charges, and they already have lousy adverts, unless Harold the Jeweller is your fav. Quote
bud Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Those are different things. no they're not. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
Michael Hardner Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 no they're not. Upon examination of reported information, specific studies andinvestigations, the Commission confirms its earlier view that "ethnic cleansing" is a purposeful policy designed by one ethnic or religious group to remove by violent and terror-inspiring means the civilian population of another ethnic or religious group from certain geographic areas. I stand corrected. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
bud Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 I stand corrected. so how to respond to someone who promotes ethnic cleansing? should he/she be engaged? sidelined? Quote http://whoprofits.org/
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