bush_cheney2004 Posted May 5, 2011 Report Posted May 5, 2011 Mallick broad point (that the Harper government will attempt to shift Canadian policy on all fronts further and further to the right) is not incorrect. It's Harper's own stated goal is it not? Mallick's broad point is to invoke the American bogeyman at every turn. Based on election results, how is that working for her? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Molly Posted May 5, 2011 Report Posted May 5, 2011 Mallick's broad point is to invoke the American bogeyman at every turn. Based on election results, how is that working for her? " the angry country in decline south of the border." Ha! She`s got you pegged! Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
Shakeyhands Posted May 5, 2011 Report Posted May 5, 2011 Attacking the author as opposed to the points. Typical. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 5, 2011 Report Posted May 5, 2011 (edited) " the angry country in decline south of the border." Ha! She`s got you pegged! That's because she's got no game without America to point to...like so many others who simply cannot articulate a Canadian position without doing so. It is sad (that's Canadaspeak). Unlike 15% of Canadians who wanted to vote for Obama, the Americans did not give PM Harper his majority. Why isn't she asking the right questions? Edited May 5, 2011 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 5, 2011 Report Posted May 5, 2011 Attacking the author as opposed to the points. Typical. She is attacking the Americans (again)...typical. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
kimmy Posted May 5, 2011 Report Posted May 5, 2011 Attacking the author as opposed to the points. Typical. What "points" does she make, other than the same shrieking panic we've been hearing from her type for years? "Now that he's got a majority, we're going to turn into the USA! You just wait! There's Evangelical Christians! He's Bush Lite! They're going to dismantle healthcare! They're going to criminalize abortions! It's going to happen! You just watch!" -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
Evening Star Posted May 5, 2011 Report Posted May 5, 2011 (edited) Most of the specific policies she mentions are part of the CPC's published platform: corporate tax cuts, fighter jet purchases, an omnibus crime bill, super-jails, changes to political party financing. And some of these policies do seem to bring us more in line with the US. So I do think it's fair to comment on these. (I'm not generally a fan of these policies myself.) I guess the problem is that her vitriol doesn't mainly seem to be related to these policies. She's probably wrong about abortion and about the actual influence of evangelical Christians in the CPC. She does seem to be insinuating changes to health care and refugee policy that she doesn't back up. The way she stereotypes CPC voters is pretty indefensible, really, and the Bush comparison seems a little unfair to me. It would have made more sense, in the context of her other comparisons, to just compare Harper to someone like David Cameron - and I'm not even sure that Harper is as harsh as Cameron is - but she wanted to pick someone who is generally regarded as a failure. Edited May 5, 2011 by Evening Star Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 5, 2011 Report Posted May 5, 2011 Most of the specific policies she mentions are part of the CPC's published platform: corporate tax cuts, fighter jet purchases, an omnibus crime bill, super-jails, changes to political party financing. She's probably wrong about abortion and about the actual influence of evangelical Christians in the CPC. And some of these policies do seem to bring us more in line with the US.... And this exercise in "Americanization" theatre is relevant in what way? Canadians also drive American cars, watch American media, and follow American "celebrities". They also play hockey, just like some Americans. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shakeyhands Posted May 5, 2011 Report Posted May 5, 2011 What "points" does she make, other than the same shrieking panic we've been hearing from her type for years? "Now that he's got a majority, we're going to turn into the USA! You just wait! There's Evangelical Christians! He's Bush Lite! They're going to dismantle healthcare! They're going to criminalize abortions! It's going to happen! You just watch!" -k They are contained within the article and referenced by Evening Star above. Now, I'm not saying that i agree with them, but as per usual we see the name calling and personal attacks on someone, instead of playing the ball. it's typical. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
kimmy Posted May 6, 2011 Report Posted May 6, 2011 They are contained within the article and referenced by Evening Star above. Now, I'm not saying that i agree with them, but as per usual we see the name calling and personal attacks on someone, instead of playing the ball. it's typical. You're saying Mallick wrote an issues-based column and the criticism of her is unfair? Ok... so, which parts of Canada does Harper hate? Is that information contained on the Conservative website somewhere? In which parts of Canada is everyone in bed by 6:30? Should Harper try to institute a national initiative for later bedtimes? Is that what Mallick is saying? Is it time for a national dialogue on shaking your child's hand? Do you feel she's accurate in saying he has an awkward gait? I hadn't noticed. Perhaps a kinesiologist should study the issue? Does Harper's gait affect Canada's profile on the world stage? Is Laureen really "glum"? If so, what are the policy implications of that? To what does Mallick attribute this glumness? Do we need some sort of a national program to support bored political spouses? Mallick claims Harper is humorless. Could hiring a joke writer for the PMO solve this apparent problem? What are your thoughts on some of these pressing issues that Mallick raises? Can we really afford to have a Prime Minister who shook his son's hand in public? Can we afford to have a Prime Minister with an awkward gait? -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
Bonam Posted May 6, 2011 Report Posted May 6, 2011 You're saying Mallick wrote an issues-based column and the criticism of her is unfair? Ok... so, which parts of Canada does Harper hate? Is that information contained on the Conservative website somewhere? In which parts of Canada is everyone in bed by 6:30? Should Harper try to institute a national initiative for later bedtimes? Is that what Mallick is saying? Is it time for a national dialogue on shaking your child's hand? Do you feel she's accurate in saying he has an awkward gait? I hadn't noticed. Perhaps a kinesiologist should study the issue? Does Harper's gait affect Canada's profile on the world stage? Is Laureen really "glum"? If so, what are the policy implications of that? To what does Mallick attribute this glumness? Do we need some sort of a national program to support bored political spouses? Mallick claims Harper is humorless. Could hiring a joke writer for the PMO solve this apparent problem? What are your thoughts on some of these pressing issues that Mallick raises? Can we really afford to have a Prime Minister who shook his son's hand in public? Can we afford to have a Prime Minister with an awkward gait? -k You crack me up Quote
scribblet Posted May 6, 2011 Report Posted May 6, 2011 Mallick is a piece of dog crap. I'm surprised he didn't blame Laureen's tears Monday night on spousal battery; I'm sure she was sorely tempted. ----------------- The article really says more about Mallick, and her ilk, than about Harper. -k Now that's telling it like it is :D couldn't have said it better. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Evening Star Posted May 6, 2011 Report Posted May 6, 2011 Harper's gait is kind of awkward. I notice it because mine is too. Quote
yarg Posted May 6, 2011 Report Posted May 6, 2011 It is a sad commentary on society that she gets paid for what she does, there was a time when she would have been simply told to shut up, and rightfully so, no we have to just accept her as having a opinion instead of calling her for what she is. Quote
kimmy Posted May 7, 2011 Report Posted May 7, 2011 Harper's gait is kind of awkward. I notice it because mine is too. You seemed like a pretty bright person... but now that I know you have an awkward gait, my opinion of you has dropped considerably. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
sharkman Posted May 7, 2011 Report Posted May 7, 2011 The gnashing of teeth coming from the left wing in Canada over the Tory win is sad, really. After all these years of warning of a SCARY Harper majority, they had nothing else wrapped up and ready to go in case it actually happened? I'm actually surprised their strategy was so thin. Crying wolf again just doesn't have impact anymore. On the other hand, it's becoming apparent that Harper is a master strategist who thinks years and several moves in advance. It's going to be an interesting term. Quote
Pliny Posted May 7, 2011 Report Posted May 7, 2011 You're saying Mallick wrote an issues-based column and the criticism of her is unfair? Ok... so, -k Excellent post, kimmy! Very funny! You should really capitalize you're name. Quote I want to be in the class that ensures the classless society remains classless.
ninjandrew Posted May 7, 2011 Report Posted May 7, 2011 (edited) And this exercise in "Americanization" theatre is relevant in what way? Canadians also drive American cars, watch American media, and follow American "celebrities". They also play hockey, just like some Americans. For the love of God, please tell me you're not trying to say Canadians playing hockey is Americanization. EDIT: or being American for that matter. Edited May 7, 2011 by ninjandrew Quote "Everything in moderation, including moderation." -- Socrates
Rick Posted May 7, 2011 Report Posted May 7, 2011 For the love of God, please tell me you're not trying to say Canadians playing hockey is Americanization. EDIT: or being American for that matter. Of course he is. Quote “This is all about who you represent,” Mr. Dewar (NDP) said. “We’re (NDP) talking about representing the interests of working people and everyday Canadians and they [the Conservatives] are about representing the fund managers who come in and fleece our companies and our country. Voted Maple Leaf Web's 'Most Outstanding Poster' 2011
bloodyminded Posted May 9, 2011 Report Posted May 9, 2011 (edited) I think people should go back and re-read Mallick's little peice. The first thing to notice is that it's not especially...good. It's fairly banal, really, albeit with some pretty obvious personal concerns she has, though she can't articulate them too well. Most seem based on fancy. Any legitimate concerns that might be present...? Well, who can say? how does one suss them out? Pretty unimpressive. (Begs the question: is this really the lefty stuff you guys are going after? The lightweights? No wonder you can't argue sensibly about topics such as "media bias," without sounding like you're hostile to thought and dicussion! ) As for Mallick, think Atlas Shrugged for a comparison; ill-considered ideas, written in an unconvincing style. Aside from remarks I once heard her make about Sex and the City, which she considered sexist to men, as well as insufferably elitist (and I agree wholeheartedly), I've never seen anything especially noteworthy from her. Edited May 9, 2011 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Bonam Posted May 9, 2011 Report Posted May 9, 2011 As for Mallick, think Atlas Shrugged for a comparison; ill-considered ideas, written in an unconvincing style. Mallick is no Ayn Rand. Quote
RNG Posted May 9, 2011 Report Posted May 9, 2011 I think people should go back and re-read Mallick's little peice. The first thing to notice is that it's not especially...good. It's fairly banal, really, albeit with some pretty obvious personal concerns she has, though she can't articulate them too well. Most seem based on fancy. Any legitimate concerns that might be present...? Well, who can say? how does one suss them out? Pretty unimpressive. (Begs the question: is this really the lefty stuff you guys are going after? The lightweights? No wonder you can't argue sensibly about topics such as "media bias," without sounding like you're hostile to thought and dicussion! ) As for Mallick, think Atlas Shrugged for a comparison; ill-considered ideas, written in an unconvincing style. Aside from remarks I once heard her make about Sex and the City, which she considered sexist to men, as well as insufferably elitist (and I agree wholeheartedly), I've never seen anything especially noteworthy from her. Actually, I used to read and enjoy her columns, as long as she didn't get on one of her anti-Harper or anti-Conservative rants. She did offer up some interesting opinions at times. Quote The government can't give anything to anyone without having first taken it from someone else.
bloodyminded Posted May 9, 2011 Report Posted May 9, 2011 Mallick is no Ayn Rand. No, Ayn Rand was more intellectual, less appreciative of the literary arts, and more disgusting. (Do the words "admired a child killer" ring any bells?) Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
bloodyminded Posted May 9, 2011 Report Posted May 9, 2011 Actually, I used to read and enjoy her columns, as long as she didn't get on one of her anti-Harper or anti-Conservative rants. She did offer up some interesting opinions at times. Well, like I said, when she would occasionally get off the doctrinaire route and write something a little different, I was okay with it. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Bonam Posted May 9, 2011 Report Posted May 9, 2011 No, Ayn Rand was more intellectual, less appreciative of the literary arts, and more disgusting. More disgusting is a matter of opinion. (Do the words "admired a child killer" ring any bells?) Not really no. Quote
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