Ignatieff's Wife is Not Canadian Citizen

Smallc · April 10, 2011

There is no outrage. For anyone else, four years is enough to become a Canadian citizen. Every immigrant knows that. All you need is just to lift your ass and fill those damn forms.

I have known people going through the process, and it isn't nearly that simple. Anyway, who really cares. This is an attempt to make something out of nothing by Conservative supporters. This is like the birther movement in the US. You guys are insane, and I'm this close to switching my vote over this kind of madness. I'm starting to think that, with supporters like you and a few others on here, the Conservatives don't deserve to win.

Harry · April 10, 2011

There is no outrage. For anyone else, four years is enough to become a Canadian citizen. Every immigrant knows that. All you need is just to lift your ass and fill those damn forms.

Ignatieff arrived to Canada to be a Prime Minister. This is not "anyone else" intention. Nevertheless, on her sixth year in Canada, his wife hasn't obtained Canadian citizernship. There is only one explanation. She did not want it strongly. She did not applied on time. And Mr. Ignatieff didn't care.

By the way, when did Suzana (sorry I used transliteration) Zsohar apply for Canadian citizenship? Yes, it is not my damn business, but I do want to know a personality of my potential Prime Minister. Maybe it was just yesterday? It would say a lot.

You are right about one thing. It is none of your busiess. And please have the courtesy and respect to at least learn how to spell her name. Is that asking too much? And I agree with Smallc, this nastiness smacks of the Tea Party movement in the USA.

Edited April 10, 2011 by Harry

bush_cheney2004 · April 10, 2011

You are right about one thing. It is none of your busiess. And please have the courtesy and respect to at least learn how to spell her name. Is that asking too much? And I agree with Smallc, this nastiness smacks of the Tea Party movement in the USA.

Interesting...it "smacks of the Tea Party movement in the USA" this time around, but such "nastiness" was evident for Stephane Dion's French citizenship and GG Michaele Jean, long before birthers or the Tea Party existed in the USA. I think Canadians have had it in them all along, and for obvious reasons. The Tea Party movement learned it from Canada!

blueblood · April 10, 2011

I have known people going through the process, and it isn't nearly that simple. Anyway, who really cares. This is an attempt to make something out of nothing by Conservative supporters. This is like the birther movement in the US. You guys are insane, and I'm this close to switching my vote over this kind of madness. I'm starting to think that, with supporters like you and a few others on here, the Conservatives don't deserve to win.

I agree. Its a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch. Ignatieff's policies are bad enough, no need for this nonsense.

Smallc · April 10, 2011

I agree. Its a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch. Ignatieff's policies are bad enough, no need for this nonsense.

Exactly. I don't think I'd even consider voting Liberal in this election, but the type of talk that I was responding to might convince me to park my vote with the NDP (in our riding though, that'd be nothing but a protest).

Edited April 10, 2011 by Smallc

ToadBrother · April 10, 2011

I agree. Its a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch. Ignatieff's policies are bad enough, no need for this nonsense.

Precisely my feeling. There are enough meaningful things to be critical about without having to delve into these sordid personal attacks, or even worse, to try to justify them by pseudo-legalistic mumbo-jumbo.

ToadBrother · April 10, 2011

Exactly. I don't think I'd even consider voting Liberal in this election, but the type of talk that I was responding to might convince me to park my vote with the NDP (in our riding though, that'd be nothing but a protest).

It's a tough election for me. I'd just as soon vote Tory, if my MP wasn't a quack, and if the Tories hadn't behaved so deplorably during the last Parliament over fundamental constitutional issues. But the Liberals... uggh... I just have a hard time even fathoming Iggy as PM (though, unless the Tories get a majority, it may end up that way)... so it doesn't leave a lot. My NDP candidate isn't too bad, but it's hard to imagine voting for a party that in so many ways I am diametrically opposed to.

May end up being a strategic vote for the guy who has the ability to turf the current Tory MP. The world would be a better place with that SOB retired from Parliament.

Edited April 10, 2011 by ToadBrother

msj · April 10, 2011

It's a tough election for me. I'd just as soon vote Tory, if my MP wasn't a quack, and if the Tories hadn't behaved so deplorably during the last Parliament over fundamental constitutional issues. But the Liberals... uggh... I just have a hard time even fathoming Iggy as PM (though, unless the Tories get a majority, it may end up that way)... so it doesn't leave a lot. My NDP candidate isn't too bad, but it's hard to imagine voting for a party that in so many ways I am diametrically opposed to.

May end up being a strategic vote for the guy who has the ability to turf the current Tory MP. The world would be a better place with that SOB retired from Parliament.

Sounds like you're in the Nanaimo-Alberni riding.

I am having the same problem although it's easier for me to not like the CPC since they have abandoned fiscal conservative principles for stupid tax policy (cutting GST, tax credits coming out of their ass, boutique tax cuts etc).

I'd love to send our good "doctor" back to practicing his quackery "medicine" (chiropractor).

ToadBrother · April 10, 2011

Sounds like you're in the Nanaimo-Alberni riding.

Tells you how bad Lunney is if my spare hints are enough to peg my locale.

I am having the same problem although it's easier for me to not like the CPC since they have abandoned fiscal conservative principles for stupid tax policy (cutting GST, tax credits coming out of their ass, boutique tax cuts etc).

I'd love to send our good "doctor" back to practicing his quackery "medicine" (chiropractor).

For some reason there's this rather large population of people who just vote Tory like it's part of their sympathetic nervous system. They seem decidedly unwilling to see that not only is he an advocate of pseudomedical quackery, but all in all, for a Tory MP, he's decidedly useless at even getting some good porkbarrel money. The various incarnations of our riding has had a long run of very crappy MPs.

Even if I was inclined to vote Liberal, their candidate here, Renee Miller is more like a robot who, on command, repeats pro-Iggy slogans and anti-Tory slurs. I should find out whether you have to insert quarters or pull an arm or something. Zeni Maartman actually seems like a pretty decent lady, but NDP... hard to imagine.

Edited April 10, 2011 by ToadBrother

g_bambino · April 11, 2011

I do want to know a personality of my potential Prime Minister.

Then why are you rambling on about his wife?

Smallc · April 11, 2011

Then why are you rambling on about his wife?

:lol:

punked · April 11, 2011

Sounds like you're in the Nanaimo-Alberni riding.

I am having the same problem although it's easier for me to not like the CPC since they have abandoned fiscal conservative principles for stupid tax policy (cutting GST, tax credits coming out of their ass, boutique tax cuts etc).

I'd love to send our good "doctor" back to practicing his quackery "medicine" (chiropractor).

You my friend sound like an NDP voter.

msj · April 11, 2011

You my friend sound like an NDP voter.

I'm in a similar boat as Smallc and TB: there are many things about either some idiot CPC supporters or Harper or, especially, Flaherty, and, in particular, "doctor" Lunney that bug me enough to vote for anyone who could beat the CPC in my riding.

For the record, I'm a Gordon Campbell/Brian Mulroney type of "Conservative/Liberal" - which means I'm more "red Tory" than the CPC would like me to be (or they're more blue Tory than I would like them to be).

Smallc · April 11, 2011

I'm in a similar boat as Smallc and TB: there are many things about either some idiot CPC supporters or Harper or, especially, Flaherty, and, in particular, "doctor" Lunney that bug me enough to vote for anyone who could beat the CPC in my riding.

I'll still vote CPC...but only because the others are just....I don't know what it is. There's not a good choice right now. What I wouldn't give for Paul Martin.

Edited April 11, 2011 by Smallc

msj · April 11, 2011

I'll still vote CPC...but only because the others are just....I don't know what it is. There's not a good choice right now.

Agreed.

I have never seen such crap for policy come from all of the parties all at the same time.

Diarrhea runneth over.

ToadBrother · April 11, 2011

I'll still vote CPC...but only because the others are just....I don't know what it is. There's not a good choice right now.

You don't have someone like Lunney running, I'll wager. There are limits to just how far I'll compromise, and the sign post for that in Lunney's case is thirty miles back. He is a pretty nasty guy, a defender of ignorance and quackery, and on top pretty bloody unproductive. This is one of Tory/Reform's most successful candidates, and Harper doesn't give him anything meaningful to do.

I'm sorry, I just couldn't sleep knowing that I had anything to do with such a man getting elected. Plant my vote elsewhere and at least I can hold my head high and say "At least I didn't have any part in electing this man."

Smallc · April 11, 2011

Agreed.

I have never seen such crap for policy come from all of the parties all at the same time.

Diarrhea runneth over.

Exactly. I wish someone would tell me that they're going to scrap the boutique tax cuts and tax credits and lower the first two or three marginal rates, for starters.

Smallc · April 11, 2011

I'm sorry, I just couldn't sleep knowing that I had anything to do with such a man getting elected. Plant my vote elsewhere and at least I can hold my head high and say "At least I didn't have any part in electing this man."

I have a no name backbencher as my MP (Robert Sopuck - he was elected in the November byelection). I'm not sure what he does.

punked · April 11, 2011

Exactly. I wish someone would tell me that they're going to scrap the boutique tax cuts and tax credits and lower the first two or three marginal rates, for starters.

The NDP has based their tax incentives on the Manitoba NDP model. That means they plan on cutting the small business tax to nothing later on down the road with an initial cut of 2%, at the same time they are cutting the tax credits for the tar sands, and closing offshore tax loop holes.

If you are looking for tax reform which is meaningful and isn't just "Roll back corporate tax cuts and let magic make up for an 8 Billion dollar gap in our platform" like the Liberals offer. Seriously look at the NDP platform. If they get in line with their provincial cousins in Manitoba and NS(which just cut their small business for a second time under the New NDP government to 4%) we might end up in good shape in this country.

blueblood · April 11, 2011

I have a no name backbencher as my MP (Robert Sopuck - he was elected in the November byelection). I'm not sure what he does.

Wasn't he a free press journalist? The only thing I don't like is that he's old. I think this would have been the perfect riding to stick in a young cpc candidate and give him/her some time to become a good mp.

Smallc · April 11, 2011

The NDP has based their tax incentives on the Manitoba NDP model.

I hope not. We have some of the highest personal taxes in the country (that's not the NDPs fault).

Smallc · April 11, 2011

Wasn't he a free press journalist? The only thing I don't like is that he's old. I think this would have been the perfect riding to stick in a young cpc candidate and give him/her some time to become a good mp.

Oh yes, that's what he did (among other things, I think).

punked · April 11, 2011

I hope not. We have some of the highest personal taxes in the country (that's not the NDPs fault).

I don't think anyone will touch income tax to be honest. Not sure why but they wont.

Smallc · April 11, 2011

I don't think anyone will touch income tax to be honest. Not sure why but they wont.

Harper should quit throwing tax credits around and lower personal taxes for middle income earners. It would give Canadians more buying power.

ToadBrother · April 11, 2011

Harper should quit throwing tax credits around and lower personal taxes for middle income earners. It would give Canadians more buying power.

It certainly make me consider the possibility of throwing a vote in front of my crappy ridiculous Tory MP. Giving tax cuts to corporations who just banking the savings pretty much seals the deal against them.