WWWTT Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 Maybe Harper thought Ignatieff meant that he wanted to do a duet? You know probably another Beatles song. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
ToadBrother Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 The debate is a non-issue. The networks don't want to do it. Oh BS. If Harper and Iggy had a one-on-one debate, the networks would be crawling all over it. Quote
ToadBrother Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 Maybe Harper thought Ignatieff meant that he wanted to do a duet? You know probably another Beatles song. WWWTT Maybe The Long And Winding Road... Quote
jbg Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 Oh BS. If Harper and Iggy had a one-on-one debate, the networks would be crawling all over it. In Ignatieff does that in his capacity as coalition leader, fine. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
ToadBrother Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 In Ignatieff does that in his capacity as coalition leader, fine. Even Iggy in his capacity as Liberal leader. Quote
blueblood Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 Oh BS. If Harper and Iggy had a one-on-one debate, the networks would be crawling all over it. I agree, but I would be disappointed in harper having to give canned answers because of his poor communication skills. I'd love to see it, but harper is no reagan and no mulroney. If this were to happen, harper stumping ignatieff would be mind blowing. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Smallc Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 I agree, but I would be disappointed in harper having to give canned answers because of his poor communication skills. I'd love to see it, but harper is no reagan and no mulroney. If this were to happen, harper stumping ignatieff would be mind blowing. I don't agree. Harper isn't at all a poor communicator, he simply has trouble making things up on the fly. Quote
nicky10013 Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 I don't agree. Harper isn't at all a poor communicator, he simply has trouble making things up on the fly. Bingo. I've never thought him to be a good debator. In the english language debates last time around I felt even Dion got in a few good punches and THAT's saying something. On paper and at least what I've seen from past performances, Ignatieff would eat Harper alive in a one on one which is why I can't believe Harper suggested it in the first place. Quote
blueblood Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 I don't agree. Harper isn't at all a poor communicator, he simply has trouble making things up on the fly. And that's what's needed to do well in a debate. Even imo ignatieff's ideas are proposterous, ignatieff has made a living of public speaking and writing. Harper used to crunch numbers. It wouldn't look good. Harper is in the same boat as dion when it comes to debating. The only person on the right who would stump ignatieff would be uncle kevin, but he would piss off all of the swing voters in doing so. Ill call a spade a spade, debating iggy 1 on 1 is a bad idea, especially if harper is trying to go for the center. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Jack Weber Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 (edited) I don't agree. Harper isn't at all a poor communicator, he simply has trouble making things up on the fly. Well... He's not bad when things are scripted... Like when...I dunno...The press is only allowed four questions a day at a presser and those questions are screened ahead of time??? But off the cuff??? He'd be mincemeat...And he knows it.... Edited April 1, 2011 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
wyly Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 And that's what's needed to do well in a debate. Even imo ignatieff's ideas are proposterous, ignatieff has made a living of public speaking and writing. Harper used to crunch numbers. It wouldn't look good. harper has never had a fulltime job outside of politics...so I'd like to know when all this number crunching took place, his only job outside of politics was as a mailroom boy... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
capricorn Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 his only job outside of politics was as a mailroom boy... Imagine that. Going from a mailroom boy to Prime Minister. Canada truly is the land of equal opportunity. I hope he puts that in his memoirs as an encouragement for every kid to reach for the top. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Moonlight Graham Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 It's hardly a matter of being afraid, it is a matter of politics. Bingo bango. Iggy has much more to gain, Harper much more to lose from such a debate. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Jack Weber Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 harper has never had a fulltime job outside of politics...so I'd like to know when all this number crunching took place, his only job outside of politics was as a mailroom boy... Well... It comes from being the head of the kooky NCC,for one thing... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Shwa Posted April 1, 2011 Author Report Posted April 1, 2011 ... Not some vague sniping about the CBC. Most excellent reply! Quote
Shakeyhands Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 How about the CPC didn't want the LPC to be able to use back-to-back elections to persuade Canadians that they'd better not vote another minority government? You'd think that would play right in to Harpers hands, after all, isn't that exactly what he is trying to convince Canadians about right now...errrrrrrr... Sorry, forgot you were 40 Trudeau units from NYC.... my bad. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Shakeyhands Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 When does Harper debate Layton one on one? Seriously why does Ignatieff think he is better then anyone else? Dunno... Why didn't Harper invite him instead of Ignatieff? You should ask him, or have someone do that for you, if they are stuck at only the fourth question of the day. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
jbg Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 How about a one-on-one Harper vs. May? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
cybercoma Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 How about a one-on-one Harper vs. May?It could be hosted on PPV and the profits from the broadcast could go to the World Wildlife Fund Canada and the bottom-lines of corporations in the Alberta tarsands. Quote
Bryan Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 Govt jobs aren't "real" jobs. Not ones that contribute tax revenue anyway. Quote
blueblood Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 Not ones that contribute tax revenue anyway. Or create wealth Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Bryan Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 Or create wealth Or contribute to the economy. It's funny that some people (mostly lefties) don't understand that Public sector jobs don't contribute, they only take. Tell a CUPE member that they don't actually pay taxes, and watch their heads explode. Draw it out, show them the math, and they'll still argue vociferously. It's crazy. Quote
wyly Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 from Ignatieff this morning... why did the chicken cross the road???.............................to avoid a debate! :lol: Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Shwa Posted April 1, 2011 Author Report Posted April 1, 2011 Or contribute to the economy. It's funny that some people (mostly lefties) don't understand that Public sector jobs don't contribute, they only take. Tell a CUPE member that they don't actually pay taxes, and watch their heads explode. Draw it out, show them the math, and they'll still argue vociferously. It's crazy. Draw it out and show us the math. Then we'll see if they still argue vociferously. Otherwise you're all talk and no substance. And remember you are contending the public sector workers don't "actually pay taxes." So, do tell. Quote
Bryan Posted April 1, 2011 Report Posted April 1, 2011 Draw it out and show us the math. Then we'll see if they still argue vociferously. Otherwise you're all talk and no substance. And remember you are contending the public sector workers don't "actually pay taxes." So, do tell. I will spell it out for you if you really don't get it. But seriously, just think about where tax revenues comes from for a minute. It probably deserves its own thread if you CAN'T figure it out. Quote
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