Are Canadians so fed up with Harper that all we ever talk about is a c

[blueblood]

And the policy of "Business knows best so we don't want to get in their way or interrupt them as they do their high-powered financial deals. After all, what could go wrong?"

Not as much as a policy set by the govt when people with 30k incomes buying 300k homes. What could go wrong with that?

Any logical business not bound by that govt policy would tell those bozos wanting a house at 10x earnings to pound sand.

[WWWTT]

Nope: http://www.cic.gc.ca/search-recherche/index-eng.aspx?search=basic&query=wait+times&m=10&s=1&l=e&vpp=10

I keep waiting for people to realize how poorly the various governments do at providing services, and reporting on performance. Nobody seems to care, though. Oh well.

If you check under family class,spouce sponsership or something like that and check application proccessing times.By country or continent.

To me a cover up is not so much of as a concern as the neglect and discrimination!

If there is usually a backlog normal thinking would be to divert resources to reduce this to acceptable levels.

After all the fees required from immigration Canada is not a token amount.Their fees reflect the actual costs and then some for the coffers to boot.Economical sence would dictate investing in money makers.(don't take my word for it and check the fees for youself).

However if discrimination is on your mind then making application proccessing times unbearable and discouraging is your best bet!

WWWTT

[WWWTT]

Nope: http://www.cic.gc.ca/search-recherche/index-eng.aspx?search=basic&query=wait+times&m=10&s=1&l=e&vpp=10

I keep waiting for people to realize how poorly the various governments do at providing services, and reporting on performance. Nobody seems to care, though. Oh well.

Aswell I agree with the fact that nobody cares.

I am to blame however .I should have started this thread with a clearer mandate.

I will try again

WWWTT

[WWWTT]

Not as much as a policy set by the govt when people with 30k incomes buying 300k homes. What could go wrong with that?

Any logical business not bound by that govt policy would tell those bozos wanting a house at 10x earnings to pound sand.

Ok you know what blueblood I just randomly picked a comment from this thread and it was yours congratulations!

Can you please do me a favour and explain not what this coment is about but what you are thinking when you are writing stuff like this?

And this is nothing personal,I honestly randomly picked this comment.Don't beleive me ok I'll do it again

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[WWWTT]

Hey, some people seem to be using the CBC political compass to figure out who to vote for, so why not?

Ok heres another example.

Now can I figure out the original thread from this comment?

Nothing personal toad but what are you thinking?

Oh man I must of screwed up bad or its you guys.

WWWTT

[ROYME55]

Except the US wasn't the only place doing some pretty ludicrous things. The Greeks went so far as to violate their debt-to-GDP ratios that they had agrede upon when joining the Euro during the Athens Olympics, when they borrowed like drunken sailors to pay for the event. Spain, Portugal and in particular Ireland were doing even crazier things with credit than the US, and the UK was at least as bad. Certainly the US was a focal point, but the US's nose is starting to point up while places like Ireland are in still in terrible shape.

There are a few things here that need to be thought about. One- Money doesn't just disappear into thin air, it went into some very deep pockets. Two- The Americans set a dangerous precedent when the bailed out the S&L's Three- They should have put in some tough laws right after the S&L mess. Four- Government should never use tax payer dollars to save any company, it is a free market system. If tax dollars are used they must be a loan and paid back with interest.The criminals that brought this mess on not only didn't go to jail but got bonuses from bailout money.

[blueblood]

Ok you know what blueblood I just randomly picked a comment from this thread and it was yours congratulations!

Can you please do me a favour and explain not what this coment is about but what you are thinking when you are writing stuff like this?

And this is nothing personal,I honestly randomly picked this comment.Don't beleive me ok I'll do it again

WWWTT

Because when people who make ridiculous personal financial decisions because they have a pompous entitled attitude as a result of a job and then have a pity party for themselves and blame bankers for their mess.

If you can't afford it don't buy it. The western world suffeRs because of bozos who can't make mortgage payments they had no place having.

Its frustrating having to put up with wage earners with an entitled attitude.

[treehugger]

the contempt the conservatives have for parliament/democracy is obvious and a cbc poll suggests 80+% of canadians aren't concerned about coalitions so let's talk about issues conservatives avoid...healthcare and how they're willing to sacrifice it for 30 billion star wars planes and prisons for the unreported crimes of the imaginary criminals and tax cuts for foreign corporate millionaires...

CANADA doesn't have imaginary criminals, there is enough real ones out there. While other countries flew to help out in Libya, the Canadian pilots were flying forty (40) year old planes over there. Would you like to be in one of those old planes?

[Smallc]

While other countries flew to help out in Libya, the Canadian pilots were flying forty (40) year old planes over there.

I didn't know the mid 1980s was 40 years ago. That's an interesting fact I've learned. In reality of course, the CF-18s are about 25 years old, and have just been modified with structural components replaced as needed and a completely modern avionics package installed. The planes are no older than many French Mirages and British Tornados. It will be time to replace then in about 8 - 9 years, but I'm no longer convinced that the F-25 is the right replacement. I'm more leaning towards the F/A - 18 E/F, even though it fills a slightly different role than the Hornet or Lightning as it's more strike oriented and less air to air oriented (although it seems it does just as well and was always intended as a fighter).

Edited March 29, 2011 by Smallc

[wyly]

I didn't know the mid 1980s was 40 years ago. That's an interesting fact I've learned. In reality of course, the CF-18s are about 25 years old, and have just been modified with structural components replaced as needed and a completely modern avionics package installed. The planes are no older than many French Mirages and British Tornados. It will be time to replace then in about 8 - 9 years, but I'm no longer convinced that the F-25 is the right replacement. I'm more leaning towards the F/A - 18 E/F, even though it fills a slightly different role than the Hornet or Lightning as it's more strike oriented and last air to air oriented.

and over 60% of canadians agree with you, we don't need the F35...

[Smallc]

and over 60% of canadians agree with you, we don't need the F35...

That can be seen with Libya. The F-35 is meant for first strikes to knock out air and ground defences. Because we're so far away from most of the world, first strike is something we can't do anyway, because by the time we've got there, someone closer (usually the US) has already struck first.

Edited March 29, 2011 by Smallc

[WWWTT]

CANADA doesn't have imaginary criminals, there is enough real ones out there. While other countries flew to help out in Libya, the Canadian pilots were flying forty (40) year old planes over there. Would you like to be in one of those old planes?

Ok here is another example of someone completely ignorant and who does not use their mind before they talk,nothing personal treehuger but you wrote this not me.

Ok so tell me how many of these cf-18 have bein shot down?

In fact with the track record this plane has yes I would like to be in one!

Ok now I am not a pilot but the plane used now is only a hull for the more important electronics and weapons.The plane itself I believe has no machine guns,the teeth are missles and bombs to have all the bite.

Not just that eletronics are always advancing at an alarming rate.

Even if we do get these new raptor jets there will be new advanced tech. coming out in a few years that will have to be retrofitted into them at additional costs.

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[blueblood]

That can be seen with Libya. The F-35 is meant for first strikes to knock out air and ground defences. Because we're so far away from most of the world, first strike is something we can't do anyway, because by the time we've got there, someone closer (usually the US) has already struck first.

The thing with the f35 is that it will be a superior fighter when it comes out and will be for quite sometime. There is no crystal ball to decide what's going on, and its better to have the best rather than cheap out. There may be a time in the future where a fighter of that type may be needed.

I do believe however that the f35 will be the last manned fighter purchased or maybe produced. Its got to the point where the capabilites of the plane exceed the capabilities of the pilot.

As for the poster for suggesting there is no gun on planes, there is. That was a lesson learned from the vietnam war. 20mm vulcan gatling gun.

[bush_cheney2004]

Ok here is another example of someone completely ignorant

....The plane itself I believe has no machine guns,the teeth are missles and bombs to have all the bite.

Even if we do get these new raptor jets....

You might want to get your own facts straight first....Canada can't buy any "raptor jets"...and air combat cannons (mahine guns) are standard kit.

Edited March 29, 2011 by bush_cheney2004

[Jerry J. Fortin]

You might want to get your own facts straight first....Canada can't buy any "raptor jets"...and air combat cannons (mahine guns) are standard kit.

Well we might not be able to buy any F22's but then again, the poor Yanks can't either. Program is dead as a doornail, I think there are maybe two or three left to construct but that is it, less than 100 birds I think, instead of hundreds as planned.

Edited March 29, 2011 by Jerry J. Fortin

[bush_cheney2004]

Well we might not be able to buy any F22's but then again, the poor Yanks can't either. Program is dead as a doornail, I think there are maybe two or three left to construct but that is it, less than 100 birds I think, instead of hundreds as planned.

You think wrong...there will be a total of 187 units produced...and production is not yet complete. The 'Yanks' bought them all.

[Bonam]

You think wrong...there will be a total of 187 units produced...and production is not yet complete. The 'Yanks' bought them all.

Plus more could be built if there suddenly came a pressing need for more 5th generation air superiority fighters. It's not as if the designs have been burned and the production facilities dismantled.

[ROYME55]

Most Canadians are more intelligent than that.

Vote NDP and the last business man leaving Canada turn out the lights. No thanks it is tough enough to keep jobs in Canada without taxing them into leaving. Ontario found out how bad things can get under a socialist NDP the country doesn't have to find out.

[bush_cheney2004]

Plus more could be built if there suddenly came a pressing need for more 5th generation air superiority fighters. It's not as if the designs have been burned and the production facilities dismantled.

True....in fact, LockMart will store all F-22 tooling and fixtures in California. This will not be a repeat of the Avro Arrow!

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2010/11/for-posterity-lockheed-creates.html

[WWWTT]

Ok whatever they got a machine gun,still have not answered the question about how many cf-18's being shot down!

Oh and voting NDP will leed to every business man leaving Ontario or Canada.

And why is that?

I don't see business men leaving China.In fact they are going to the socialist paradise in freakin droves!

But I will leave that for another thread.

Good luck with your unfounded fear mongering with shadow enemies and phantom fears!

WWWTT

[bush_cheney2004]

Ok whatever they got a machine gun,still have not answered the question about how many cf-18's being shot down!

Like...whatever....I'm sure...totally!

CF-18 Losses and Ejections

[WWWTT]

Like...whatever....I'm sure...totally!

CF-18 Losses and Ejections

Crashed on take off,crashed due to engine failure,etc etc

Not once shot down due to enemy

Thanks for helping me prove you wrong by the way

I thought maybe there was one that was takin out over the former Serbia but maybe that was another country.

Look at Libya now,the freakin coalition is pounding the living crap out of anyone who aposes them.

Where is the need for such weapons that can cause so much destruction?

Why don't we just get a freakin nuclear warhead while we're there to boot!

Your just a freakin war monger,this country has no need for you war pig!

Oh and by the way what country invaded Canada and where and when?

And did Canada declare war against any such nation first,or did they declare war on Canada first?

Don't wait for the translation answer the question now!

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[ToadBrother]

Crashed on take off,crashed due to engine failure,etc etc

Not once shot down due to enemy

Thanks for helping me prove you wrong by the way

I thought maybe there was one that was takin out over the former Serbia but maybe that was another country.

Look at Libya now,the freakin coalition is pounding the living crap out of anyone who aposes them.

Where is the need for such weapons that can cause so much destruction?

Why don't we just get a freakin nuclear warhead while we're there to boot!

Your just a freakin war monger,this country has no need for you war pig!

Oh and by the way what country invaded Canada and where and when?

And did Canada declare war against any such nation first,or did they declare war on Canada first?

Don't wait for the translation answer the question now!

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I'm predicting you're not here much longer.

[Jack Weber]

I'm predicting you're not here much longer.

There is a place for people like him,though....

Bedwetter.ca!!!!(rabble.ca)

[M.Dancer]

The plane itself I believe has no machine guns,....

Never let not knowing what you are talking about, stop you....