Topaz Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 A draft report says the Harper government is in contempt and what punishment is anyone guess. One gentlemen today said if Parliament wanted to they could throw all the Tories in jail! This is no surprise to most Canadians, since the Tories made it so easy to come to this . If the Conservative want to have amajority they will have to in my view get rid of Harper, Towes, Nicholls, Baird,Clements, Flaherty, for starters. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/harper-government-in-contempt-of-parliament-draft-report-says/article1946464/ Quote
capricorn Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 A draft report says the Harper government is in contempt...This is no surprise to most Canadians, since the Tories made it so easy to come to this.... Did you arrive at this conclusion after taking polls around water coolers or at coffee shops, or both? Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Scotty Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 This is no surprise to most Canadians, Who continue to support the Tories in far greater numbers than any other party... Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
scribblet Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Who continue to support the Tories in far greater numbers than any other party... Which is the reason the left here is becoming a tad unhinged, judging from the weird posts here LOL Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
nicky10013 Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Who continue to support the Tories in far greater numbers than any other party... Now...while precisely 5% of the Canadian public is truly paying attention to politics... Quote
Mr.Canada Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 This is a very minor situation and nothing will ever come of it. Face it, these issues aren't getting any traction with Canadians. Canadians are happy with the way things are being run right now with PM Harper. Even with all the MSM trying to bring down PM Harper they just cannot do it. Canadians are beginning to see the real agenda of the left wing in this country. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
punked Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 I think the biggest problem with this is costs estimates. In a week we are going to have those, while in a week when the budget comes out the argument is out the window isn't it? Quote
Topaz Posted March 18, 2011 Author Report Posted March 18, 2011 Who continue to support the Tories in far greater numbers than any other party... Yes, the greater number of people who VOTED in 2008, but if those people who don't vote did, Harper would be out! Quote
Topaz Posted March 18, 2011 Author Report Posted March 18, 2011 This is a very minor situation and nothing will ever come of it. Face it, these issues aren't getting any traction with Canadians. Canadians are happy with the way things are being run right now with PM Harper. Even with all the MSM trying to bring down PM Harper they just cannot do it. Canadians are beginning to see the real agenda of the left wing in this country. Good try! Harper and his government is the first to be charged with contempt and some think that he will try to prorogue again. I'm not sure on that, I think he'll have to put something in the budget to make Canadians angry when the opposition brings him down. Maybe were you live Canadians are happy, but were I live in Ontario, there are too many people not working, going to the food banks, losing their homes, their families. Tell me, what is the agenda of the left wing? Quote
capricorn Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 if those people who don't vote did, Harper would be out! Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
wolfd Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 if those people who don't vote did, Harper would be out! But aren't you also assuming that if those people who did vote don't?? Quote
scribblet Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 That's a draft report remember and the rulings needed to be studied further by a parliamentary committee http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/second-reading/silver-powers/pot-meets-liberal-kettle-at-contempt-hearings/article1945423/ You see the Speaker said his rulings needed to be studied further by a parliamentary committee. The first set of those committee hearings began Wednesday. However, before the sun even set the Liberals had issued a press release condemning the government, which brought forward new information and a legion of witnesses to address the concerns raised by the Speaker. It is hard to conceive how the Liberals, if they were serious about reviewing the material and testimony to make democracy work for Canadians, would be blasting the government before dusk on Day 1. I am a speed-reader myself and am not bad at multi-tasking, but what the Liberals did in terms of reflection must set some Guinness Book record.Legitimacy would have required some real investigation and analysis, not a Viagra-like induced rush to a conclusion that suits their own political desires. If you are going to accuse the Harper government (I wasn't mandated to use that title) of hypocrisy, it is probably not wise to behave in such an obviously hypocritical manner yourself. For all I know the government material may not have met the conditions set out by the Speaker. But the way the Liberals handled things Wednesday clearly illustrated the only democracy their interested in involves them running it. The criticism of the government last week was in some ways deserved but the Liberal antics this week make them look like co-conspirators to democratic diminution. Pot, meet kettle. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
pinko Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 I anticipate the report will be generated and released shortly. A confidence vote will be held and Harper will be off to the GG for an election call. That will happen within the next week or two in my view. Quote
madmax Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 I anticipate the report will be generated and released shortly. A confidence vote will be held and Harper will be off to the GG for an election call. That will happen within the next week or two in my view. Conservatives are going to the polls.... Just like they wanted. Quote
ToadBrother Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Conservatives are going to the polls.... Just like they wanted. I'm not so sure. There have been indications for weeks that they don't think the last few polls are entirely representative of the situation. Quote
Shwa Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Now...while precisely 5% of the Canadian public is truly paying attention to politics... Exactly and while rabid CPC supporters revise the precision of the word 'contempt' every few days or so to keep their beloved party on the right side of God. Otherwise, the other 95% will be hearing about it no doubt, when the Liberals start their ad compaign on television. I am thinking the CPC should call an election right now before they self-destruct from their own doing. Quote
Saipan Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 One gentlemen today said if Parliament wanted to they could throw all the Tories in jail! Liberals wanted to be the cops, judges and executioners for 12 years. Instead it were Liberal politicians who went to jail. Tell the "gentleman". Funny how the Karma works Quote
madmax Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Liberals wanted to be the cops, judges and executioners for 12 years. Instead it were Liberal politicians who went to jail. Tell the "gentleman". Funny how the Karma works I wonder if Liberals and Conservatives can share Jail Cells, like they share Senate Seats Quote
ToadBrother Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 I wonder if Liberals and Conservatives can share Jail Cells, like they share Senate Seats I find it extraordinarily unlikely that anyone will see the inside of a prison cell over this. There will likely be a finding of contempt and very little else save perhaps some attempt to make it into a confidence motion. This is tricky ground. Only once before has a government in Canada been in anything like this position, and that was Sir John A. MacDonald's government after the revelations of the Pacific Scandal. Sir John A. tried to avoid the censure by proroguing Parliament (this was the likely inspiration of Harper's 2008 prorogation, though it's not a perfect parallel, as a vote of censure is not a confidence motion), but ultimately his government was censured and he resigned. I have no idea what the end-game is. It could simply be a finding of contempt, which has no particular parliamentary repercussions, though, depending on who you listen to, may have some political repurcussions. Or the Opposition could insist that a finding of contempt is tantamount to a loss of confidence in the government (I'm not that much of an expert on these matters to suggest that this is possible, though I can see some argument for it). That seems to be the divide right now. Some think the Opposition will try to use the contempt vote as the horse to ride a no confidence motion in on, to try trigger an election before the budget is released. Others seem to think that any vote of no confidence won't happen until the budget is read, and the contempt motion will be fuel for the Opposition in the election that follows. Of course, the unknown right now is the NDP. Clearly they seem keen to go for a finding of contempt, but if the NDP and Tories are having backroom talks around the budget, then the NDP will object to any attempt to turn contempt into no confidence, and the whole show depends on them backing the Bloc and the Liberals. Quote
Saipan Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 I wonder if Liberals and Conservatives can share Jail Cells, like they share Senate Seats We are building bigger and better ones. Now it depends on THE sentence. So far it hit Liberals after Sponsorgate. But Opposition is hard at work to invent something - they just don't want to reveal what EXACTLY. Quote
madmax Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 We are building bigger and better ones. Yeah, thanks alot, never thought that the "Unreported Crime" was that which lies within the Conservative Government and Conservative Party. Lock em all up, someone has to go into those prisons. Why not the Cons. Quote
Saipan Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Yeah, thanks alot, never thought that the "Unreported Crime" was that which lies within the Conservative Government and Conservative Party. According to Liberals, like Allan Rock & Wendy Cukier, the crime is out of hand so we have to register all the duck guns. Right? Lock em all up, someone has to go into those prisons. Why not the Cons. Never mind the sentencing, jails too have to have the proper "representation". Locking only criminals, gee - anyone can do that. But that wouldn't be "leveling the playfield". Right? Quote
madmax Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Never mind the sentencing, jails too have to have the proper "representation". Locking only criminals, gee - anyone can do that. But that wouldn't be "leveling the playfield". Right? Sure, lock up the CONS and they can share the cells with the Unreported Criminals. Quote
Saipan Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Sure, lock up the CONS and they can share the cells with the Unreported Criminals. What are the charges, and the sentence? Quote
madmax Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) What are the charges, and the sentence? How about Unreported Crime. Does it really matter. The Cons want to build prisons for prisoners that don't exist. Yet they like having a convicted disbarred fellon act as Harpers Right Hand man, and create an influence peddling scam with an Escort. Heck, lets grab those two Senate Bagman. Another form of "in and out". This is great News. Since we can't afford these prisons and we have to fill them with Unreported criminals, lets go for the Cons. It think this is great stuff. http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20090205032057/http://www.leannavip.com/Home.html Edited March 18, 2011 by madmax Quote
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