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Nanos Research have released a poll tonite showing that 41% of Canadians trust Harper less today than they did a year ago.

What kind of damage do you think this could do to Harper's chances in the coming election campaign?

Poll shows increasing voter skepticism about Harper government

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/poll-shows-increasing-voter-skepticism-about-harper-government/article1955978/

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We're seeing some very bizarre poll results back to back. I'm thinking this may be a very volatile election and we may not even be able to guess at the end result. I still cannot see the Liberals moving past the Tories, and providing the Tories can keep ahead of the rest, they'll form a government, whether it is a majority or a minority.

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We're seeing some very bizarre poll results back to back. I'm thinking this may be a very volatile election and we may not even be able to guess at the end result. I still cannot see the Liberals moving past the Tories, and providing the Tories can keep ahead of the rest, they'll form a government, whether it is a majority or a minority.

No what you see is that No matter how much Canadians don't like Harper they don't like the other guys more. I really don't get it, I am hoping progressive Liberals see the NDP not move so instead they move their vote in certain places.

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No what you see is that No matter how much Canadians don't like Harper they don't like the other guys more.

You see that even within dedicated Conservative supporters. A lot of them don't like Harper either, but they REALLY don't like Ingnaieff and Layton, so they aren't even considering switching parties.

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You see that even within dedicated Conservative supporters. A lot of them don't like Harper either, but they REALLY don't like Ingnaieff and Layton, so they aren't even considering switching parties.

that's REALLY dumb logic, the voter has no idea what Ignatieff is like he's never been in the lead in an election campaign...

“Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill

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that's REALLY dumb logic, the voter has no idea what Ignatieff is like he's never been in the lead in an election campaign...

All his political views are written in his books and he has been leader for years now. Stop acting like Canadians are stupid.

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Nanos Research have released a poll tonite showing that 41% of Canadians trust Harper less today than they did a year ago.

What kind of damage do you think this could do to Harper's chances in the coming election campaign?

Harry, you and other anti-Harperites, are sadly desperate.

Your question is sadly pointless.

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You see that even within dedicated Conservative supporters. A lot of them don't like Harper either, but they REALLY don't like Ingnaieff and Layton, so they aren't even considering switching parties.

That is the sad situation I find myself in. I wish the Greens were just a little bit less out there. Or we get a good independant in my riding, but little chance of that. I really wish "None of the Above" were an option on our ballots. But I will vote. I feel it is my duty.

The government can't give anything to anyone without having first taken it from someone else.

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So Friday`s the big day. Should be a hoot!

Canada government set for defeat on sleaze, waste

Although polls show the Conservatives would retain power -- likely with another minority -- the opposition thinks it can benefit from a series of ethical scandals to hit the Conservative Party, which came to power in 2006 promising to clean up Ottawa.

http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCATRE72O0U820110325?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0

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Harry,this is way I don't put that much stock in any of these early polls...

If the numbers are still holding three weeks in,then the die is pretty much cast.Until then,it's pretty much like blindly throwing darts against a wall hoping to hit a bullseye..

The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!

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That is the sad situation I find myself in. I wish the Greens were just a little bit less out there. Or we get a good independant in my riding, but little chance of that. I really wish "None of the Above" were an option on our ballots. But I will vote. I feel it is my duty.

It's really a sad commentary on the state of politics in this country that these are the choices we get,is'nt it?

The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!

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Just had a quick look at the most recent Nanos polling:

On March 1 the CPC had 39.7%, the Libs had 26.6%, and the NDP had 18.9%, whereas 2 weeks later on March 15 the CPC had 38.6%, down 1.1%, the Libs had 27.6%, up 1%, and the NDP had 19.9%, up 1%.

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Just had a quick look at the most recent Nanos polling:

On March 1 the CPC had 39.7%, the Libs had 26.6%, and the NDP had 18.9%, whereas 2 weeks later on March 15 the CPC had 38.6%, down 1.1%, the Libs had 27.6%, up 1%, and the NDP had 19.9%, up 1%.

But I bet the error limits were =/> than 3%, so the drift is meaningless.

The government can't give anything to anyone without having first taken it from someone else.

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Harry, you and other anti-Harperites, are sadly desperate.

Your question is sadly pointless.

How is it pointless?

During day to day business as usual most people wouldn't care about this sort of thing. During a campaign, if it is mentioned, people tend to pay attention and ask why.

"They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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During day to day business as usual most people wouldn't care about this sort of thing. During a campaign, if it is mentioned, people tend to pay attention and ask why.

The same dynamic will be at play with regard as to where the opposition stands on the question of a coalition. It's obvious this issue will pop up during the campaign and pique the interest of voters. Observers will be comparing what the opposition says on this matter in Quebec and in the ROC. The reason being that polls have shown Quebecers are more likely to endorse a coalition than in the ROC.

"We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers

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Ask First Nations if they have any confidence in Canada and its government. Canada won't even provide clean water for First Nations, yet, millions of Immigrants come to Canada, and can get that service. 505 billion dollars that Resource Companies steal from First Nations won't cover it.

Canadian Government has no First Nations Seats in the House, and has no First Nations Representation. They just represent people who land launder first nations resources and property for the purpose of economic terrorism.

Canada-- Just A Hotbed For Laundering First Nations Land and Resources

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Ask First Nations if they have any confidence in Canada and its government. Canada won't even provide clean water for First Nations, yet, millions of Immigrants come to Canada, and can get that service. 505 billion dollars that Resource Companies steal from First Nations won't cover it.

Canadian Government has no First Nations Seats in the House, and has no First Nations Representation. They just represent people who land launder first nations resources and property for the purpose of economic terrorism.

If my wife won't make tea, I make it myself.

How hard is it to set up a water filtration station? White people do it all the time...

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Nanos Research have released a poll tonite showing that 41% of Canadians trust Harper less today than they did a year ago.

What kind of damage do you think this could do to Harper's chances in the coming election campaign?

Poll shows increasing voter skepticism about Harper government

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/poll-shows-increasing-voter-skepticism-about-harper-government/article1955978/

Polls are notoriously unreliable.

I have captured the rare duct taped platypus.

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No what you see is that No matter how much Canadians don't like Harper they don't like the other guys more. I really don't get it,

I understand perfectly. Its about making the best of poor choices. And Harper seems like a far better choice than Ignatieff, with or without his coalition. Ignatieff reminds me more and more of Pierre Trudeau, only without the charisma and moxie.

It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy

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Ask First Nations if they have any confidence in Canada and its government. Canada won't even provide clean water for First Nations,

I seem to recall the Canadian government provided good water filtration plants and then drunken indians and corrupt indian chiefs didn't maintain them properly.

It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy

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I seem to recall the Canadian government provided good water filtration plants and then drunken indians and corrupt indian chiefs didn't maintain them properly.

Are you sure about that? Please provide a cite for this, I would be interested to read all about the "drunken indians and corrupt indians chiefs" that didn't properly maintain the "water filtration plants."

Please, hurry and provide me a cite or I will have to keep reminding you to.

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Harry,this is way I don't put that much stock in any of these early polls...

If the numbers are still holding three weeks in,then the die is pretty much cast.Until then,it's pretty much like blindly throwing darts against a wall hoping to hit a bullseye..

Enjoyed this:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/opinion/public-opinion-turns-when-you-least-expect-it/article1955536/

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I seem to recall the Canadian government provided good water filtration plants and then drunken indians and corrupt indian chiefs didn't maintain them properly.

When you say drunk do you mean drunk like Sir John A MacDonald or drunk like George W Bush.Or Boris Yeltzin drunk?

And are you implying you yourself have never bein drunk in your life and work out everyday and are fluent in several languages and are the best role model?

And when you say corrupt do you mean corrupt like Brian Mullroney or Richard Nixon?

Just a side note,Sir John A MacDonald showed many classical signs of being a herion addict,which was legal and readily available for that time and regularly prescribed by doctors.

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Are you sure about that? Please provide a cite for this, I would be interested to read all about the "drunken indians and corrupt indians chiefs" that didn't properly maintain the "water filtration plants."

Please, hurry and provide me a cite or I will have to keep reminding you to.

Water problems Natives fault

It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy

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