ReeferMadness Posted September 11, 2015 Report Posted September 11, 2015 Then you don't understand the party.......Kenney is a sought after commodity among all the wings, for both policy and fundraising.......I wouldn't consider Kenney anymore or less a social conservative than Ambrose. I like Lisa Raitt, but would question her long term health. I would favor, after Kenney, one of Chris Alexander or Dr Kellie Leitch...... Erin O'Toole would be my personal, biased, selection, but I don't think he has any designs on it..... But, to return to topic, Harper is the current leader despite polling....... Chris Alexander???? Hahahahahaha. You want a leader who does the best 'deer in the headlights' look? Is he going to have a seat after this election? Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Triple M Posted September 11, 2015 Report Posted September 11, 2015 I would like to see Brad Wall as CPC leader after Harper Are Lord or McKay still viable for future leadership Quote
socialist Posted September 11, 2015 Report Posted September 11, 2015 Latest polls. What a crazy poll season. http://ipolitics.ca/2015/09/11/the-ekos-poll-could-the-refugee-crisis-be-good-for-harper/ Quote Thankful to have become a free thinker.
ReeferMadness Posted September 11, 2015 Report Posted September 11, 2015 In fact, the current conventional wisdom on this issue is probably wrong; the refugee crisis has not hurt Mr. Harper. In fact, it seems to be helping him. It appears from our polling that the Conservative party has consolidated — and possibly even expanded — its base. At these numbers, the Conservatives could easily win the election and form a minority government despite being stuck at 32 points. The number of racists in this country is truly staggering. And they're not all Conservative supporters. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
capricorn Posted September 11, 2015 Report Posted September 11, 2015 Trudeau is safe even if he only gets eight or ninety seats, because he will have proven he can turn the Liberal's fortunes around. Even in third place with that many seats, he'll have gone through an election campaign and more than doubled the Liberals' seat count, not to mention that in such a situation, the Liberals' support would be needed by whomever forms the government. Agreed. I think Trudeau Jr. is a long term project for the Liberals. The ad "just not ready" has somewhat of a true ring to it. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Evening Star Posted September 11, 2015 Report Posted September 11, 2015 Agreed. I think Trudeau Jr. is a long term project for the Liberals. The ad "just not ready" has somewhat of a true ring to it. I always thought that was a strange tactic, since it seems to imply that he WILL be ready after a term or two. Quote
Smallc Posted September 11, 2015 Report Posted September 11, 2015 The number of racists in this country is truly staggering. And they're not all Conservative supporters. Yes, we're all racists. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted September 11, 2015 Report Posted September 11, 2015 Chris Alexander???? Hahahahahaha. You want a leader who does the best 'deer in the headlights' look? Is he going to have a seat after this election? I've no issue with Alexander, so yeah, I wouldn't be opposed to the notion. I'm not sure how Alexander is polling in his riding. Quote
ToadBrother Posted September 11, 2015 Report Posted September 11, 2015 I always thought that was a strange tactic, since it seems to imply that he WILL be ready after a term or two. Actually, to me, it was the first sign of Harper's capitulation, that, whatever happens on October the 19th, his grand quest to destroy the Liberal Party failed. This has been his obsession for years, some might even say since he abandoned the Liberal party as a teenager. By saying "he's not ready", the Tories might be able to convince voters to return to the Tories for this election, but it also means the whole vast project to destroy liberalism in Canada is dead. Quote
capricorn Posted September 11, 2015 Report Posted September 11, 2015 I always thought that was a strange tactic, since it seems to imply that he WILL be ready after a term or two. My sense is that the Conservatives will win a minority this time around and in the next couple of years there will be another election and Trudeau Jr. and his Liberals will form government. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
ReeferMadness Posted September 11, 2015 Report Posted September 11, 2015 Yes, we're all racists. So, let's be crystal clear about something. If these were white, Christian, English speaking kids washing up on the beaches, Harper wouldn't be able to get away with scaring people into thinking they were all terrorists or slackers who want to use up our healthcare dollars while they collect welfare. So, yeah, part of it is racism. And part of it is religious intolerance. And part of it is ethnic intolerance. And none of it speaks well for this country or its inhabitants. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Smallc Posted September 11, 2015 Report Posted September 11, 2015 And part of it is religious intolerance. And part of it is ethnic intolerance. I'll admit that I'm intolerant against all religion - especially the current violence and terrorism champion. I'm also intolerant of bigoted and barbaric cultures and their disgusting practices. If Syria were Japan we wouldn't be having this problem. Quote
ReeferMadness Posted September 12, 2015 Report Posted September 12, 2015 I'll admit that I'm intolerant against all religion - especially the current violence and terrorism champion. I'm also intolerant of bigoted and barbaric cultures and their disgusting practices. If Syria were Japan we wouldn't be having this problem. Thanks for self-identifying. If more people would do that, maybe we could get you people some help. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
jbg Posted September 12, 2015 Report Posted September 12, 2015 So, let's be crystal clear about something. If these were white, Christian, English speaking kids washing up on the beaches, Harper wouldn't be able to get away with scaring people into thinking they were all terrorists or slackers who want to use up our healthcare dollars while they collect welfare. So, yeah, part of it is racism. And part of it is religious intolerance. And part of it is ethnic intolerance. And none of it speaks well for this country or its inhabitants. Do you really think these people are coming to work? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Canada_First Posted September 12, 2015 Report Posted September 12, 2015 So, let's be crystal clear about something. If these were white, Christian, English speaking kids washing up on the beaches, Harper wouldn't be able to get away with scaring people into thinking they were all terrorists or slackers who want to use up our healthcare dollars while they collect welfare. So, yeah, part of it is racism. And part of it is religious intolerance. And part of it is ethnic intolerance. And none of it speaks well for this country or its inhabitants. So these so called people will be of no cost to Canada whatsoever? If they have money they can come. We have enough poor brown people as it is wouldn't you say? Quote
ReeferMadness Posted September 12, 2015 Report Posted September 12, 2015 Do you really think these people are coming to work? Why do you think they are coming? Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
ReeferMadness Posted September 12, 2015 Report Posted September 12, 2015 So these so called people will be of no cost to Canada whatsoever? If they have money they can come. We have enough poor brown people as it is wouldn't you say? So called people? Can you elaborate what you mean by that term? And do you think Canada has too many poor people or too many brown people? Or maybe you meant too many Muslims? Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Smallc Posted September 12, 2015 Report Posted September 12, 2015 Why do you think they are coming? Because it sucks where they're from right now? Quote
Smallc Posted September 12, 2015 Report Posted September 12, 2015 Thanks for self-identifying. If more people would do that, maybe we could get you people some help. It's a shame i can't be a cultural relativists and religious apologists. Quote
eyeball Posted September 12, 2015 Report Posted September 12, 2015 In the immortal words of Clint Eastwood, "deserve's got nothin' to do with it." I'm not Trudeau's biggest fan (but then again, I'm not overly fond of any of the leaders for various reasons), but I don't see how he is somehow less worthy than Stephen Harper. Both of them largely had the same degree of political and real world experience when they were elected to lead their parties, and while Trudeau has made a lot of rookie mistakes and said some absurd things, it's not hard to find quotes from Harper in his younger days that were intemperate and overly ideological. Actions will always speak louder than words and I think his positions on trade with China, than and now, are perfect bookends to the history of the most hypocritical political leader and PM Canada if not the Commonwealth has ever seen. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
ReeferMadness Posted September 12, 2015 Report Posted September 12, 2015 Because it sucks where they're from right now? Don't back out now, buddy. Have the guts to say what you mean. You asked me if I thought they were coming here to work. What do you think they're coming here to do? Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Smallc Posted September 12, 2015 Report Posted September 12, 2015 Don't back out now, buddy. Have the guts to say what you mean. You asked me if I thought they were coming here to work. What do you think they're coming here to do? I didn't ask you that, but I did answer your question with my honest answer since I thought it was worth answering. Quote
ReeferMadness Posted September 12, 2015 Report Posted September 12, 2015 I didn't ask you that, but I did answer your question with my honest answer since I thought it was worth answering. You asked me if they were coming here to work. Yes, I think they're coming here to work. I think they're coming to build a life where they don't have to live in a war zone. Now tell me what you think they're coming here to do. Or are you afraid the answer is going to remove any doubt of what type of person you are? Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Smallc Posted September 12, 2015 Report Posted September 12, 2015 You didn't ask me that. Pay attention to who you're talking to. I think that most of them are here for a good time, and not a long time, as the song says. They're cold and sacred and they want somewhere safe to go. Quote
Canada_First Posted September 12, 2015 Report Posted September 12, 2015 You asked me if they were coming here to work. Yes, I think they're coming here to work. I think they're coming to build a life where they don't have to live in a war zone. Now tell me what you think they're coming here to do. Or are you afraid the answer is going to remove any doubt of what type of person you are? So can we send back the ones who turn into criminals and remain on welfare? Quote
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