SF/PF Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Quote 1: You just mean words that you invented inside your head as opposed to what I said? Im not supporting ethnic cleansing at all, Im opposing it. Quote 2: Leave the occupied territores or enjoy violence forever and deserve it. So which of your two quotes do really mean, then? Your argument, if it can be called such, seems to rely on the implicit assumption that any resistance to the illegal expansion of a state amounts to ethnic cleansing. Perhaps you would like to have a go at justifying that assumption. Applying the same logic, one might argue that the French resistance to Nazi rule amounted to ethnic cleansing on the part of the French. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF/PF Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 It's only ethnic cleansing if the cleansing is of ethnics....jews are too white to qualify... Are you aware that international rulings on the illegality of Israeli settlements cite conventions aimed at preventing ethnic cleansing? Based on those rulings, it is a demonstrated fact that Israel has been engaged in ethnic cleansing, as defined by the international community, for quite some time. Are Palestinians "too white to qualify" as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 When have they ever said that they would leave Israel alone if they did leave the occupied territories? Hint, they haven't. Sorry but thats horseshit and you dont even know who "THEY" is. The palestinian side is pushing for a two state solution based on the 67 borders which is what the entire world recognizes as legal. They have even offered to make numerous concessions and let Israel KEEP some of the land they illegally occupy. Theres definately some Arabs that still would like Israel gone completely just like theres some Jews that think Palestinians should be ethnically cleansed from the west bank, but thats by no means the aggregate arab position. But go ahead. Keep inventing stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Your argument, if it can be called such, seems to rely on the implicit assumption that any resistance to the illegal expansion of a state amounts to ethnic cleansing. Perhaps you would like to have a go at justifying that assumption. So in your opinion, Jews have zero connection to the so-called (named in 1948) West Bank? Applying the same logic, one might argue that the French resistance to Nazi rule amounted to ethnic cleansing on the part of the French. Ah, yes...the ol' Jews are the new Nazis line of thinking. Best check-out the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem to find out who the real Nazis are. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Amin_al-Husayni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Are you aware that international rulings on the illegality of Israeli settlements cite conventions aimed at preventing ethnic cleansing? Based on those rulings, it is a demonstrated fact that Israel has been engaged in ethnic cleansing, as defined by the international community, for quite some time. Are Palestinians "too white to qualify" as well? Theyre aware of all that stuff they just dont care. Theyre basically sports fans that will support their team unconditionally no matter what. These guys would gleefully cheer Israel on even if they rounded up the palestinians and started executing them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Theyre aware of all that stuff they just dont care. Theyre basically sports fans that will support their team unconditionally no matter what. These guys would gleefully cheer Israel on even if they rounded up the palestinians and started executing them all. That would earn you a good beating in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Are you aware that international rulings on the illegality of Israeli settlements cite conventions aimed at preventing ethnic cleansing? cite for your cites please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Applying the same logic, one might argue that the French resistance to Nazi rule amounted to ethnic cleansing on the part of the French. Before I comment on your analogy and the logic you are fumbling with...could you itemize the German civilian settlements in occupied france ...either alphabetically or by population... Thanks for your attention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Before I comment on your analogy and the logic you are fumbling with...could you itemize the German civilian settlements in occupied france ...either alphabetically or by population... Thanks for your attention After that, what say you and I round-up some A-rabs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 After that, what say you and I round-up some A-rabs! Do I look like I work for Hamas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Do I look like I work for Hamas? Insha'Allah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF/PF Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 So in your opinion, Jews have zero connection to the so-called (named in 1948) West Bank? Whether they have a connection to it or not is irrelevant. Unless you believe that England similarly has a right to annex the eastern sea-board of the United States because they have a "connection" to the area. Ah, yes...the ol' Jews are the new Nazis line of thinking. Best check-out the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem to find out who the real Nazis are. It has nothing to do with equating the jews to nazis, but to show the incoherence of your reasoning. I chose an example that was wildly ridiculous to demonstrate the ridiculousness of your "argument." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF/PF Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Before I comment on your analogy and the logic you are fumbling with...could you itemize the German civilian settlements in occupied france ...either alphabetically or by population... Thanks for your attention Do you deny that the German invasion of France was for the purpose of expanding the nation of Germany? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF/PF Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 cite for your cites please Link The International Court of Justice and the international community say these settlements are illegal,[3][4] Israel disputes this.[5] The United Nations has repeatedly upheld the view that Israel's construction of settlements constitutes violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention.[6] Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 That would earn you a good beating in person. Ya sure it would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Whether they have a connection to it or not is irrelevant. Unless you believe that England similarly has a right to annex the eastern sea-board of the United States because they have a "connection" to the area. I didn't mention 'annex'. I'm talking about a West Bank with both Jewish and Arab populations...like Israel. Or is that not Kosher? It has nothing to do with equating the jews to nazis, but to show the incoherence of your reasoning. I chose an example that was wildly ridiculous to demonstrate the ridiculousness of your "argument." M.Dancer: Before I comment on your analogy and the logic you are fumbling with...could you itemize the German civilian settlements in occupied france ...either alphabetically or by population...Thanks for your attention. Answer Dancer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Ya sure it would. Yup it would. I would take offence, demand you take it back then if that didn't work we'd be taking it outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Before I comment on your analogy and the logic you are fumbling with...could you itemize the German civilian settlements in occupied france ...either alphabetically or by population... Thanks for your attention The establishment of German settlements would have had no bearing on whether or not france had a right to resist the occupation. The settlements are PART OF the occupation. You think it would be any different if the situation was reversed? Please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Yup it would. I would take offence, demand you take it back then if that didn't work we'd be taking it outside. No actually if you werent on the other end of a thousand miles of fibre all youd do is shut your trap and stare at your feet. Your internet tough guy act is amusing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 No actually if you werent on the other end of a thousand miles of fibre all youd do is shut your trap and stare at your feet. Your internet tough guy act is amusing though. I bounced many a tough guy right out of the concert halls, Emo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 I bounced many a tough guy right out of the concert halls, Emo. lol...watch...he'll reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 I didn't mention 'annex'. I'm talking about a West Bank with both Jewish and Arab populations...like Israel. Or is that not Kosher? Its about as Kosher as it would be if the Arabs used military force to establish "civilian" settlements near Telaviv. Would that be Kosher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Its about as Kosher as it would be if the Arabs used military force to establish "civilian" settlements near Telaviv. Would that be Kosher? They've tried before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 lol...watch...he'll reply. Looks like youre doing a good job of replying to your own hilarious and laughable appeals to internet toughness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Oh no he didn't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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