bud Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 the following is a series of posts made by people on facebook, sharing their feelings on the american government assisting the japanese; http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/upload/2011/03/i_hope_these_people_arent_your/GodBlessAmerica.php not sure what drives this illogical thirst for vengeance and hate. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
DogOnPorch Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 the following is a series of posts made by people on facebook, sharing their feelings on the american government assisting the japanese; http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/upload/2011/03/i_hope_these_people_arent_your/GodBlessAmerica.php not sure what drives this illogical thirst for vengeance and hate. Poor understanding of history and WW2/post-WW2 Japan in particular. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GWiz Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 Poor understanding of history and WW2/post-WW2 Japan in particular. You mean like the ONLY Japan Disaster thread here on MLW calling it the "Empire of Japan"? SICK! By SICK PEOPLE! Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
DogOnPorch Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 Well...Oleg...yah know.... Japan isn't the military dictatorship that it was during WW2...most folks know that. I hope... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 (edited) Well...Oleg...yah know.... Japan isn't the military dictatorship that it was during WW2...most folks know that. I hope... Hey, my uncle still hates the Japanese after USMC service in the Pacific during WW2...the hate burns deep in his old crusty ass. China and Korea still haven't resolved all war related issues (e.g. comfort girls). Edited March 14, 2011 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shakeyhands Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 Poor understanding of history and WW2/post-WW2 Japan in particular. Most seem like kids, I bet their parents are ignorant too. This sort of stuff seems to be passed down. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
DogOnPorch Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 Hey, my uncle still hates the Japanese after USMC service in the Pacific during WW2...the hate burns deep in his old crusty ass. China and Korea still haven't resolved all war related issues (e.g. comfort girls). Yes indeed. I don't blame them as the War in the Pacific was beyond brutal. March of Death, etc... Shakeyhands: Most seem like kids, I bet their parents are ignorant too. This sort of stuff seems to be passed down. Agreement. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Scotty Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 (edited) the following is a series of posts made by people on facebook, sharing their feelings on the american government assisting the japanese; http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/upload/2011/03/i_hope_these_people_arent_your/GodBlessAmerica.php not sure what drives this illogical thirst for vengeance and hate. I doubt they're as callous as they seem. There is a certain mindset which says black humour, acting outrageous, somehow makes you seem dark and tough and edgy, and I think that's what these people are going for. It's easy to do from afar, especially when you don't know anyone involved. Immaturity helps, too, of course, and a lack of empathy. Edited March 14, 2011 by Scotty Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
bloodyminded Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 I doubt they're as callous as they seem. There is a certain mindset which says black humour, acting outrageous, somehow makes you seem dark and tough and edgy, and I think that's what these people are going for. It's easy to do from afar, especially when you don't know anyone involved. Immaturity helps, too, of course, and a lack of empathy. Yeah, I don't get the impression of hardcore, thought-out hatred here. I suppose a few bona fide Japanese-haters might be scattered among the bloviators, but for the most part it's probably pretty much as you say. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
GWiz Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 Hey, my uncle still hates the Japanese after USMC service in the Pacific during WW2...the hate burns deep in his old crusty ass. China and Korea still haven't resolved all war related issues (e.g. comfort girls). Hey, there's still something lingering in some Japanese minds too... Something considerably WORSE than anything the Japanese did to Americans... It's one thing doing things to people with uniforms on and guns to fight back with... It's something else to "take out" CIVILIAN moms walking their kids home from school by the thousands I'm thinking... TWICE even... Now that's what I call "teaching a lesson" not soon forgotten... KABOOM! KABOOM! Lesson given... Lesson learned... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
DogOnPorch Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 Hey, there's still something lingering in some Japanese minds too... Something considerably WORSE than anything the Japanese did to Americans... It's one thing doing things to people with uniforms on and guns to fight back with... It's something else to "take out" CIVILIAN moms walking their kids home from school by the thousands I'm thinking... TWICE even... Now that's what I call "teaching a lesson" not soon forgotten... KABOOM! KABOOM! Lesson given... Lesson learned... During the war, the Japanese set their own tone as to how events unfolded early on. Their brutality to both military prisoners and civilians is well documented. Plus, the Allies were all too aware that the Japanese soldiers fought to the death. Almost no exceptions. Japanese civilians also participated in suicide attacks against Allied forces on islands such as Saipan and Okinawa. Innocence is merely a word during total war. http://members.iinet.net.au/~gduncan/massacres_pacific.html Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 It's one thing doing things to people with uniforms on and guns to fight back with... It's something else to "take out" CIVILIAN moms walking their kids home from school by the thousands I'm thinking... Then you aren't thinking very much...it was total war...and it didn't matter whether they were German moms or Japanese moms. The incendiaries can't tell the difference. The Chinese had "moms walking with their kids too"...until the Japanese "took them out". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 SS Tjisalak On the 26 March 1944, during a cruise into the Indian Ocean, I-8 torpedoed the 5,787-ton Dutch freighter SS Tjisalak. The submarine surfaced amid the debris field and after a brief exchange of gunfire with the ship's defensive armament, collected the survivors on the submarine's deck. Shortly after the freighter had sunk, the merchantman's crew and passengers, totalling 97, were tied together and forced to run a gauntlet of Japanese sailors, during which they were slashed with samurai swords and beaten with monkey wrenches and sledgehammers before being shot, then kicked into the water. Six men managed to survive and found a life raft. They were later rescued by the Liberty ship, SS James O. Wilder. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_submarine_I-8 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Wilber Posted March 15, 2011 Report Posted March 15, 2011 (edited) Hey, there's still something lingering in some Japanese minds too... Something considerably WORSE than anything the Japanese did to Americans... It's one thing doing things to people with uniforms on and guns to fight back with... It's something else to "take out" CIVILIAN moms walking their kids home from school by the thousands I'm thinking... TWICE even... Now that's what I call "teaching a lesson" not soon forgotten... KABOOM! KABOOM! Lesson given... Lesson learned... Rape of Nanking DOP is right about the Japanese setting the tone for the Pacific war but how long do you hold the grudge? How many generations do you pass it along? We have seen what happens in places like the Balkans, people massacring each other over things that happened long before they were born. Edited March 15, 2011 by Wilber Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
scouterjim Posted March 15, 2011 Report Posted March 15, 2011 the following is a series of posts made by people on facebook, sharing their feelings on the american government assisting the japanese; http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/upload/2011/03/i_hope_these_people_arent_your/GodBlessAmerica.php not sure what drives this illogical thirst for vengeance and hate. 99.999% of those posting the hate comments were born long after the war ended. I hope they hate all the Japanese technology that bwent into their computers, i-Pods, cellphones, etc, that they couldn't live without. Quote I have captured the rare duct taped platypus.
Wilber Posted March 15, 2011 Report Posted March 15, 2011 99.999% of those posting the hate comments were born long after the war ended. I hope they hate all the Japanese technology that bwent into their computers, i-Pods, cellphones, etc, that they couldn't live without. And the fact that most of the Japanese cars they drive are built in North America. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
kimmy Posted March 15, 2011 Report Posted March 15, 2011 On a semi-related note... if you're among the millions who've been thinking "man, I'd love to have an excuse to punch Gilbert Gottfried in the face", today is your lucky day! Aflac Insurance has dropped Gottfried as the voice of the Aflac Duck after Gottfried posted a series of off-colour jokes on Twitter. Now... I'm not opposed to comedians (or alleged comedians, in Gottfried's case) saying whatever they like, because it's a free country. However, I'm also not opposed to Aflac dumping Gottfried for this, because they can also hire whoever the hell they like to appear in their commercials, and they do an enormous amount of business in Japan, apparently. Also, I'm surprised that voicing the Aflac Duck is an actual paying job. They could replace Gottfriend with Jimmy from the mail room, and nobody would notice the difference. It's not like we're talking about Flo from Progressive here. Also, I'd punch Gottfried if I got the opportunity. Even if he hadn't mocked the dead in Japan. He's just really really annoying. -k {"AFLAC!" *smack!*} Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
August1991 Posted March 15, 2011 Report Posted March 15, 2011 Rape of NankingDOP is right about the Japanese setting the tone for the Pacific war but how long do you hold the grudge? How many generations do you pass it along? We have seen what happens in places like the Balkans, people massacring each other over things that happened long before they were born. At least the Germans atoned for their sins.Japan approaches its atrocities differently: Yahoo. ---- With all of that said, I honestly wonder whether I should suffer for the sins of my grandmothers or grandfathers. The only logic I can see is that people may hesitate to do evil if they know that their grandchildren will also suffer. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted March 15, 2011 Report Posted March 15, 2011 kimmy: Also, I'd punch Gottfried if I got the opportunity. Even if he hadn't mocked the dead in Japan. He's just really really annoying. He did a bang-up version of Queen Elizabeth II on Leno a few years back. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GWiz Posted March 15, 2011 Report Posted March 15, 2011 "Man's inhumanity to his fellow man", which has been evident since "humanity" became a species of animal, is a surprise to people here on MLW? Give me a break! Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
DogOnPorch Posted March 15, 2011 Report Posted March 15, 2011 "Man's inhumanity to his fellow man", which has been evident since "humanity" became a species of animal, is a surprise to people here on MLW? Give me a break! A surprise? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bloodyminded Posted March 15, 2011 Report Posted March 15, 2011 Also, I'd punch Gottfried if I got the opportunity. Even if he hadn't mocked the dead in Japan. He's just really really annoying. -k {"AFLAC!" *smack!*} Yeah....not my cup of tea, either. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Wilber Posted March 15, 2011 Report Posted March 15, 2011 ---- With all of that said, I honestly wonder whether I should suffer for the sins of my grandmothers or grandfathers. The only logic I can see is that people may hesitate to do evil if they know that their grandchildren will also suffer. I doubt that is much of a consideration when most of these things happen. Neither of these countries thought they were going to lose so reprisals wouldn't be an issue. Germany and Japan have learned well. Both have become among the most stable and prosperous democracies on the planet and both are reluctant to send their military outside their own borders. Sure there are some vestiges of the old Samurai and neo Nazi mentality but they do not reflect the reality of either country. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
August1991 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) Neither of these countries thought they were going to lose so reprisals wouldn't be an issue.But in fact, they lost.Harry Truman, by dropping not one but two bombs, sent a strong message to other people living under other potential psychopaths. Edited March 17, 2011 by August1991 Quote
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