Technocrat Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 (edited) The full episode is found here. I was just searching through some recent episodes of Real Time and found that former prime minister Kim Campbell was on the guest panel. As I watched it and listened to her responses, I thought to myself 'If she was running as the head of the PC party in a potential upcoming spring election I would certainly cast my vote for her party. Watching this also made me realize that I really wish the old Progressive Conservative Party still existed. Anyhow I thought a few of you may be interested in watching. You can skip the opening monologue, and interview, the 'panel discussion' segment is about 40% in(I think), though there are some funny bits throughout the show so its not a total waste of time. Edited March 11, 2011 by Technocrat Quote
Mr.Canada Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 The full episode is found here. I was just searching through some recent episodes of Real Time and found that former prime minister Kim Campbell was on the guest panel. As I watched it and listened to her responses, I thought to myself 'If she was running as the head of the PC party in a potential upcoming spring election I would certainly cast my vote for her party. Watching this also made me realize that I really wish the old Progressive Conservative Party still existed. Anyhow I thought a few of you may be interested in watching. You can skip the opening monologue, and interview, the 'panel discussion' segment is about 40% in(I think), though there are some funny bits throughout the show so its not a total waste of time. You're in luck. The new Conservative Party is just like the PC's. Far too left wing for me, this Conservative Party is almost like the NDP. I wish they were much more right wing. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
CANADIEN Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 You're in luck. The new Conservative Party is just like the PC's. Far too left wing for me, this Conservative Party is almost like the NDP. I wish they were much more right wing. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Seen her on his show before, just yesterday in fact in an older episode as i was fumbling around Youtube. She's seems decent. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
GWiz Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Even I liked Kim, as Canada's first and only Prime Minister... Too bad lyin' Brian used HER of all people to throw under the bus... After all he didn't want his TRUE cronies being found out too soon, they wanted to form ANOTHER party... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
scribblet Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 You're in luck. The new Conservative Party is just like the PC's. Far too left wing for me, this Conservative Party is almost like the NDP. I wish they were much more right wing. Exactly, maybe they should govern more like a Conservative party instead of a Liberal party. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Saipan Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 'If she was running as the head of the PC party I would vote for Stephan Dion .......or his dog Kyoto. Quote
Posc Student Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 I wish Canada had a PC Party, I don't like any of our parties or their leaders. As for Dion, when you look at what he spoke about when he ran for the Liberal leadership he had some great ideas and he seemed like he had potential, poor communication and a Green Shift that was too much too soon screwed him. Quote
capricorn Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 As for Dion, Old school, yesterday's man and Liberal sacrificial lamb. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
no1ninja Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Damn, she killed it on that show! She started out slow, but was the guest with the most insight. Made me proud. Quote
waldo Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Damn, she killed it on that show! She started out slow, but was the guest with the most insight. Made me proud. ya, saw it back a bit live on HBO... she faired well up against a couple of dumbassed Repubicans spouting the standard Republican climate change denial bullshit. Made me/makes me ponder what it would be like to have the real Conservative party back in the mix. Quote
CANADIEN Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Are we talking about the same Kim Campbell who famously said that an election was not the right time to discuss serious business? The one whose campaign ran an ad mocking Jean Chrétien's facial features? The PCs lost the election because of Mulroney - they lost all of her seats except two because of her. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Are we talking about the same Kim Campbell who famously said that an election was not the right time to discuss serious business? The one whose campaign ran an ad mocking Jean Chrétien's facial features? The PCs lost the election because of Mulroney - they lost all of her seats except two because of her. Martins Liberals lost the election because of Chretien and the $500 million AdScam. Funny how it goes. Tories hurt your feelings while Liberals hurt your pocket book. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 the $500 million AdScam. citation please. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 citation please. I understand that you, as a Liberal, are embarrassed by the fraud perpetrated by your beloved Liberals but pretending it didn't happen won't make it go away. The Liberals are done for a generation at least. Please admit that a massive fraud totaling hundreds of millions of dollars took place...please be honest. It's a matter of public record now, you might as well come clean. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 I understand that you, as a Liberal, are embarrassed by the fraud perpetrated by your beloved Liberals but pretending it didn't happen won't make it go away. I understand that you, as a........[polite term]......don't understand the difference between 1 and 5, but please, give it a try. Quote
no1ninja Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) Are we talking about the same Kim Campbell who famously said that an election was not the right time to discuss serious business? The one whose campaign ran an ad mocking Jean Chrétien's facial features? The PCs lost the election because of Mulroney - they lost all of her seats except two because of her. Holy smokes, memory like an elephant. You don't forgive or forget. She is out of politics now. I did not like her much when she was in power, but as a Canadian I am proud of her and her success. She seems like an interesting person that I would love to have over for dinner regardless of her politics. The nice thing about us canucks, is that we can always switch our arguments from politics to hockey and even to beer. Edited March 12, 2011 by no1ninja Quote
Scotty Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 She is out of politics now. I did not like her much when she was in power, but as a Canadian I am proud of her and her success. S People forget that at one point in that election the PCs were in front of the Liberals. Their subsequent slaughter was mostly Campabell's fault. She made some terrible decisions, and, from accounts we've seen since then, was more interested in her love life than in the campaign. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
CANADIEN Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Holy smokes, memory like an elephant. You don't forgive or forget. She never offended me, so there is nothing I have to forgive her for. But she still took what would have been a defeat and turned it into a near-destruction. Quote
no1ninja Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 People forget that at one point in that election the PCs were in front of the Liberals. Their subsequent slaughter was mostly Campabell's fault. She made some terrible decisions, and, from accounts we've seen since then, was more interested in her love life than in the campaign. Being interested in love is too human for a politician... they need reptilian blood. (I am being facetious, I don't want to slag her for her love life, but I honestly don't know enough to make a judgment. Other than to question the standard we want in our politicians, and the degree of humanity that they are allowed to express.) Quote
Saipan Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Holy smokes, memory like an elephant. You don't forgive or forget. Wasn't Mulroney PM BEFORE Kim Campbell??? Quote
Molly Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 She never offended me, so there is nothing I have to forgive her for. But she still took what would have been a defeat and turned it into a near-destruction. Meh. I always took her as a sacrificial lamb. There had to be blood on the floor to atone for Mulroney, and there she was. I had high hopes that the first woman prime minister would be a political amazon, but we got a handmaid- a holder of the bag- instead. So sad a thing. She's not a wretch by a long shot, but she is/was not really credible and thus a terrible disappointment. Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
Wilber Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Went to high school with Kim although we didn't have the same circle of friends. Extremely bright and personable. One of the best students in the school who took a major part in many school activities. Everyone seemed to like her a lot and you felt she was going to do something special. Prince of Wales was one of the older Vancouver schools and the second of that name. She was chosen the first female valedictorian in its history. Doesn't sound like much now but it was a big deal back then. She got a lot of flack for the "elections are not time to discuss serious issues" statement but I think it is one of the most candid and honest statements ever made by a Canadian politician, particularly in an age where character assassination seems an ever larger part of campaigning. I really believe she didn't have a part in the Chretien adds and they were the creation of party hacks who were given too much freedom to demonstrate their stupidity. Probably a product of her relative inexperience in hardball federal politics. In retrospect, I wonder if something similar didn't happen to Dion with the soldiers in the streets adds. She certainly deserved criticism for not keeping on top of that stuff which she clearly didn't, but from my knowledge of the lady, that's just not her style. She said a lot of things. This is one of my favourites. Some of you may have been hoping that today I would speak about Lucien Bouchard's latest economic theories. But I have decided to spare him for the time being: after all, he is a man. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Saipan Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 She is an opportunist and as dumb as Allan Rock. Quote
Molly Posted March 12, 2011 Report Posted March 12, 2011 Ooh, Wilber, that one is sweet! I like it. I also appreciate your description of her, and tend to agree. It was my contention from the getgo that the only reason she was there at all was that she was too much of a neophyte to know any better... and she was eaten alive. Yes, made to look very bad by (those rats who were too slow to excape the sinking ship). Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
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