US and Russia's drug raid

[Topaz]

The US and Russia had a drug raid in afghanistan and its president is peeve off at the two countries. I wondering if those bags full of money coming to Afghanistan from Iran and more to do with drugs then aid for the people of Afghanistan. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11659814

[GostHacked]

The US and Russia had a drug raid in afghanistan and its president is peeve off at the two countries. I wondering if those bags full of money coming to Afghanistan from Iran and more to do with drugs then aid for the people of Afghanistan. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11659814

Almost makes you wonder who really is in the drug business. The Taliban had almost erradicated poppy and other drug farms.

[Guest TrueMetis]

I want to know why we aren't buying this shit up. Turn it into a legit business.

[Michael Hardner]

I want to know why we aren't buying this shit up. Turn it into a legit business.

Are you serious ? It's heroin.

[Topaz]

That's good the US are going the raid overseas but they should do more in their own backyear concerning Mexico. US illegal drug users is what keep the Mexican cartels in business! http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=7282.5839.0.0

[Guest TrueMetis]

Are you serious ? It's heroin.

Poppies can also be used to make morphine. You know the rather important anesthetic?

[bush_cheney2004]

That's good the US are going the raid overseas but they should do more in their own backyear concerning Mexico. US illegal drug users is what keep the Mexican cartels in business!

Don't kid yourself...plenty of drugs make their way to the US from Canada as well....blame it on NAFTA!

http://articles.cnn.com/2005-07-21/us/border.tunnel_1_drug-tunnel-mexico-border-canada-border?_s=PM:US

[Michael Hardner]

Poppies can also be used to make morphine. You know the rather important anesthetic?

I think that they were buying up the crops to destroy them at some point since the war started. It makes me think that there isn't much legal demand for it, but maybe that was a logistical decision.

[Guest TrueMetis]

I think that they were buying up the crops to destroy them at some point since the war started. It makes me think that there isn't much legal demand for it, but maybe that was a logistical decision.

My link

This year has seen shortages of common drugs used for basic treatments: morphine for pain relief, propofol for sedation, Bactrim injections for infections.

Admittedly some of this is due to the drug companies trying to make more money. Though Britain has started growing poppies due to the shortage.

My link

Poppy growing on a commercial scale in this country started about six years ago, prompted by a world-wide shortage of morphine.

Seriously the solution is sitting right there in Afghanistan and instead we destroy it and piss of the farmers in the process.

[guyser]

The Taliban had almost erradicated poppy and other drug farms.

Except they didnt.

What they did was stop new production...........until they could sell off the their own supply.

Poppy production has soared , Hash is through the roof. So says an NGO I know who tells me he can see giant bricks of hash just sitting in the open and no one will touch it.

[Michael Hardner]

Seriously the solution is sitting right there in Afghanistan and instead we destroy it and piss of the farmers in the process.

I have learned something today.

[GostHacked]

Except they didnt.

What they did was stop new production...........until they could sell off the their own supply.

Poppy production has soared , Hash is through the roof. So says an NGO I know who tells me he can see giant bricks of hash just sitting in the open and no one will touch it.

Wrong, they not only stopped new production, but killed 3/4s of the existing crops.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/13/world/taliban-s-eradication-of-poppies-is-convulsing-opium-market.html

UNITED NATIONS, June 12 — The unexpected success of the Taliban in Afghanistan in eradicating three-quarters of the world's crop of opium poppies in one season is leading experts to ask where production is likely to spring up next.

The director of the United Nations Drug Control Program, Pino Arlacchi, said there was no chance that opium from other sources would compensate this year for the loss of Afghan crops, and the prices of opium and heroin will rise substantially, with opium already worth five to seven times its usual price. His program helped convince the Taliban that opium is a disgrace to Islam.

The chairman of the Central Asia Institute at Johns Hopkins, Frederick Starr, said the West, especially Europe, had been inexplicably slow in recognizing developments in Afghanistan. ''The reduction is probably the most dramatic event in the history of illegal drug markets, not only in scale, but also in the fact that it was done domestically, without international assistance,'' he said. He added that Europe, where most Afghan heroin was consumed, had been ''stunningly dysfunctional'' in helping Afghan farmers who have sacrificed livelihoods and in moving to prevent new fields from springing up in other poor countries.

And now Afghanistan is the biggest producer of opiates in the world.

Current poppy fields are not used to support the Taliban in any fashion, because they were almost done eradicating it from Afghanistan. That money is going somewhere else. All you need to know is that other countries demanded the poppy seed products (heroine, opium ect) This article shows that.

[eyeball]

Don't kid yourself...plenty of drugs make their way to the US from Canada as well...

So what? That has nothing to do with fingering US demand as the cause.

blame it on NAFTA!

Actually, you should blame it on protectionism. Your country's position on softwood exports put so many of our forest workers out of work that they had to find something else to do...given the US demand for softdrug exports...

[guyser]

Wrong, they not only stopped new production, but killed 3/4s of the existing crops.

Well, could we both be right...AND wrong?

KABUL, 27 August 2007 (IRIN) - Opium production in Afghanistan increased by 17 percent in 2007, the UN Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) said on 27 August.

"No other country in the world has ever produced narcotics on such a deadly scale," said the Afghanistan Opium Survey 2007, an annual assessment prepared by UNODC and the government of Afghanistan.

Afghan farmers have cultivated poppies on 193,000 hectares which will produce 8,200 metric tonnes of opium in 2007, the survey indicated. Afghanistan alone accounts for 93 percent of the heroin processed in the world.

The UN has warned that Afghanistan's opium production has reached a "frighteningly new level" which threatens the war-battered country's painful struggle for stability, reconstruction and development.

Edited November 1, 2010 by guyser

[GostHacked]

Well, could we both be right...AND wrong?

I am right because the Taliban had erradicated most of the crops. You are right because after the Taliban was ousted, production skyrocketed within 2-3 years only to go back to being the world's largest producer of poppy seen products. Europe and North America needed drugs. The Taliban was not giving us what we wanted. :/