pinko Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 what a stupid analogy, medical deaths vs gun deaths you didn't put much thought into it did you, of course not it was a cut n'paste...there over 30,000 gun shot deaths per year in the US and over 200,000 injuries... You shouldn't expect saipan to make any sense. His track record suggests otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyminded Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Doctors vs. Gun Owners (A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000. (B ) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000. (C ) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171 Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health and Human Services. Now think about this: . (A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000. (Yes, that's 80 million) (B ) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500. (C ) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .0000188 Statistics courtesy of FBI So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners. Remember, 'Guns don't kill people, doctors do. FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT Almost everyone has at least one doctor. This means you are over 9,000 times more likely to be killed by a doctor as by a gun owner!!! Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand!!!!! Out of concern for the public at large, We withheld the statistics on lawyers for fear the shock would cause people to panic and seek medical attention! You should include proper attribution, rather than implying that this is your own piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 You should include proper attribution, rather than implying that this is your own piece. Where did I imply it?? I just copy my email. But you're right I should underline the Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health and Human Services. Statistics courtesy of FBI.So you can see it without your glasses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 what a stupid analogy, medical deaths vs gun deaths you didn't put much thought into it did you, of course not it was a cut n'paste...there over 30,000 gun shot deaths per year in the US and over 200,000 injuries... Neither did you....the majority of gun related deaths in the USA are suicides. Think of it as self medication instead of going to a doctor. ...We now return you to Canadians arguing with American statistics.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyminded Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Where did I imply it?? "This is mine," is the clear implication. No stated indication that it was someone else's piece, no quotation marks, no link provided. Any one of these would have sufficed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 "This is mine," is the clear implication. Yes, so why do you say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyminded Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 Yes, so why do you say that? You're asking why I tell the truth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 You're asking why I tell the truth? No I'm not, 'cause I know you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Admiral Yamamoto: "You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Advising Japan's military leaders of the futility of an invasion of the mainland United States because of the widespread availability of guns. It has been theorized that this was a major contributing factor in Japan's decision not to land on North America early in the war when they had vastly superior military strength. This delay gave our industrial infrastructure time to gear up for the conflict and was decisive in our later victory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinko Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Admiral Yamamoto: "You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Advising Japan's military leaders of the futility of an invasion of the mainland United States because of the widespread availability of guns. It has been theorized that this was a major contributing factor in Japan's decision not to land on North America early in the war when they had vastly superior military strength. This delay gave our industrial infrastructure time to gear up for the conflict and was decisive in our later victory. Spreading your stupidity I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Spreading your stupidity I see. Thanks for the comment Brian. I'm sure Yamamoto will reconsider. Edited January 12, 2011 by Saipan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinko Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Thanks for the comment Brian. I'm sure Yamamoto with reconsider. Anytime. Have you bought a comb yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Yes! And my pretty young wife loves it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyly Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Admiral Yamamoto: "You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Advising Japan's military leaders of the futility of an invasion of the mainland United States because of the widespread availability of guns. It has been theorized that this was a major contributing factor in Japan's decision not to land on North America early in the war when they had vastly superior military strength. This delay gave our industrial infrastructure time to gear up for the conflict and was decisive in our later victory. too bad for you there is no record of Yamamoto ever having said that...pure fiction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 too bad for you there is no record of Yamamoto ever having said that...pure fiction http://johnfenzel.typepad.com/john_fenzels_blog/images/2007/03/14/the3monkeys.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Mohandas K. Gandhi: "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest. If we want the Arms Act to be repealed, if we want to learn the use of arms, here is a golden opportunity. If the middle classes render voluntary help to Government in the hour of its trial, distrust will disappear, and the ban on possessing arms will be withdrawn." Mohandas K. Gandhi, Autobiography: The Story of My Experiments with Truth, Chapter XXVII, Recruiting Campaign, Page 403, Dover paperback edition, 1983. Edited January 12, 2011 by Saipan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyly Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 http://johnfenzel.typepad.com/john_fenzels_blog/images/2007/03/14/the3monkeys.jpg well that explains everthing, it sums up your approach to life perfectly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Bill Clinton: (US President, has sworn an oath to defend the US Constitution, (not to violate it, criticize it, and belittle it)) "When we got organized as a country, [and] wrote a fairly radical Constitution, with a radical Bill of Rights, giving radical amounts of freedom to Americans, it was assumed that Americans who had that freedom would use it responsibly...When personal freedom is being abused, you have to move to limit it." (April 19, 1994, on MTV) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIP Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Admiral Yamamoto: "You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Reality: Advocates of gun rights often argue that in World War II Japan was deterred from invading the U.S. mainland by a fear of American citizens with guns in their closets. They frequently quote Japan’s Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto as saying: "You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." http://factcheck.org/2009/05/misquoting-yamamoto/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 http://www.garrybreitkreuz.com/publications/Article5.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIP Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 How NRA Works To Limit ATF’s Gun-Tracing Powers Wednesday, October 27th, 2010 3:42 am The National Tracing Center in Martinsburg, W.Va., is the only place in the nation authorized to trace gun sales, says the Washington Post in the third in a series. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives staffers make phone calls and pore over handwritten records to track down gun owners. The government is prohibited from putting gun ownership records into an easily accessible format, such as a searchable computer database. The National Rifle Association has successfully blocked computerization, arguing against any national registry of firearm ownership. Does this make any sense gun nuts? The NRA and Gun Owners of America have lobbied to prevent any law enforcement from tracing an illegal gun to the original purchaser, or the gun shop where the gun was purchased from. To do so, requires having a small staff in Virginia wade through mountains of paper records, so only the highest priority traces can be followed up on. Concerns about government regulation of gun ownership have limited the resources available to the ATF, led to strict regulatory restrictions, and left the agency without leadership. The agency has about the same number of agents it had nearly four decades ago: 2,500. It inspects only a small fraction of the nation’s 60,000 retail gun dealers, taking as much as eight years between visits to stores. ATF cannot require dealers to conduct a physical inventory to determine whether any guns have been lost or stolen. “We’re a political football,” said James Cavanaugh, who recently retired as special agent in charge of the ATF’s Nashville office after a 30-year career. Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/25/AR2010102505823.html?hpid=topnew And America's high numbers of gun crimes is not just their problem, since thousands of easily purchased guns in the U.S. find their way into the pipeline of illegal firearms that enter Canada and Mexico! Canada first: The large number of unregistered, restricted firearms recovered by police indicates that firearms are being smuggled and illegally imported into Canada (e.g., Axon and Moyer, 1994: xiii: Department of Justice Canada, 1995: 12). The 1997 Annual Report on Organized Crime by the Criminal Intelligence Service Canada suggests that the United States is the source of most legal and illegal firearms in Canada. According to that report, "it is relatively easy for Canadians to acquire firearms in the United States either through an American accomplice or ‘straw’ purchaser, or directly by themselves. (...) Firearms are smuggled into Canada through normal ports of entry and the numerous unmanned border crossings" (CSIS, 1997: 15). However, the true extent of the problem is unknown and cannot presently be estimated. According to the same CSIS report, firearm couriers are not necessarily habitual criminals. The smuggling of firearms into the country appears to involve individuals or small groups moving shipments containing between three and 12 firearms (Ibidem). The consultations conducted by the Firearm Smuggling Work Group (Department of Justice Canada, 1995) revealed how little systematic information actually exists on smuggling activities. In Canada, offenders may obtain illegal firearms from the millions of firearms that can be legally purchased or owned in the United States, but are either prohibited or restricted in this country. http://canada.justice.gc.ca/eng/pi/rs/rep-rap/1998/wd98_4-dt98_4/p9.html#a92 Is the Flow of U.S. Weapons to Mexican Drug Cartels Increasing Under Obama? Still, ATF’s agents are already hard at work trying to trace the origin of the Higueras arsenal. Mexican officials have said the training camp was being run by Los Zetas, a ruthless paramilitary army of drug traffickers that was originally founded by renegade operatives of the Mexican special forces. The group is believed to have played a major part in the wave of violence that has killed 22,000 people since President Calderon declared war on the cartels in Dec. 2006. http://www.newsweek.com/blogs/declassified/2010/05/17/is-the-flow-of-u-s-weapons-to-mexican-drug-cartels-increasing-under-obama.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 When will they start tracing CRIMINALS? And their influx from Latin America and Caribbean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 When will they start tracing CRIMINALS? And their influx from Latin America and Caribbean. Criminals have serial numbers? Oh...you forgot the annoying leeches let in from micronesia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyly Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Criminals have serial numbers? Oh...you forgot the annoying leeches let in from micronesia and the gangs from South East Asia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saipan Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 and the gangs from South East Asia They travel through Mexico and Caribbean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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