Shady Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 If we look at it that way, then not all the terrorists are Muslim anymore. Nobody has ever said that all terrorists are Muslim. Or that all Muslims are terrorists. That's part of the many strawman arguments you and your ilk like to perpetuate ad nausem. But facts are facts. At the present time, if you're a terrorist, you're more likely to be Muslim. The statistics prove that point. You can post 6 or 7 incidents WORLD WIDE all you want. It doesn't discount reality. If the perpetrators of these attacks on Muslims and firebombings were directly motivated by the 9/11 attacks Are you a mind reader? Perhaps they were motivated by the train bombings in Madrid in 2004, or the bus bombings in London 2005. Or the murder of Theo Van Gogh. Or the rise of radical Muslim extremists immigrating to European countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Nobody has ever said that all terrorists are Muslim. Or that all Muslims are terrorists. That's part of the many strawman arguments you and your ilk like to perpetuate ad nausem. But facts are facts. At the present time, if you're a terrorist, you're more likely to be Muslim. The statistics prove that point. You can post 6 or 7 incidents WORLD WIDE all you want. It doesn't discount reality. The facts also say that if you a MUSLIM IN NEW YORK you are less likely to be a terrorist then a southern white Christan Hmmmmmmm. Convenient you forgot mention that Shady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 (edited) I see. So they all have to be doctors and be killed all at once or it doesn't count. Yes, that's what I said. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Well, I guess the KKK is OK then, since they'd never killed 3,000 doctors at once. They were a group, an organized group, who declared the desire to terrorize and go after Blacks! Unlike the murderers who killed abortion doctors, who were acting on their own; they were individual, independent acts. Unlike the terrorist attacks and the KKK. Are you starting to get the difference yet? They killed off regular folk over time, kind of like the anti-Muslim attacks today. Who is supporting those attacks? You think *I* am? I think Bush, by saying this is NOT a war against Muslims, NOT to take it out on Muslims, WAS being "empathetic" towards them. And the vast majority of Americans reacted accordingly. At a time when were were hurting over what had happened. All I'm asking is the same. Because it should be a two way street. Are you starting to get it yet? So, should we not be sensitive towards Muslims in return? Were are the anti-Mosque burning and anti-murder protesters? Oh yes, Molotov and baseball bat experts are likely among the protesters' main funders. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. What, exactly, are we supposed to be protesting?? Edited August 23, 2010 by American Woman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machjo Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 What, exactly, are we supposed to be protesting?? I don't know. Islam or terrorism? Personally I'd rather protest for friendlier relations rather than against a religious community claiming that it's nothing personal but they share the same religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 I don't know. Islam or terrorism? Personally I'd rather protest for friendlier relations rather than against a religious community claiming that it's nothing personal but they share the same religion. Well, if you don't know either, I'm afraid you can hardly blame the rest of us for not protesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machjo Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Well, if you don't know either, I'm afraid you can hardly blame the rest of us for not protesting. You're not protesting? So you do not associate the local Muslim community with the events of 9/11 in any way beyond the fact that thy'd lost members like many others on that fateful day and have no problem with a religious community centre being built on that site regardless of tis religious affiliation any more than the other religious centres in that area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TrueMetis Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 So with all the mosque burnings, murders after 9/11, and still today, could we just not call it even and let the local NYC community build their mosque near Ground Zero? After all, they're not calling for a ban on the building of Christian churches near where their mosques have been firebombed or their members murdered now are they? Likewise with abortion doctors. I'm not aware of any call for a ban on Christian churches near where abortion doctors are killed (then again, one was killed in a church). So why the double standard? As Churchill once said, though I may be paraphrasing here: When one person dies, it's a tragedy. When a million die, it's statistics. I thought that was Stalin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machjo Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 I thought that was Stalin? I just looked it up and it seems it had been misattributed to Stalin: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin But looking into it further, there is no evidence that it comes from Churchill either. I may stand corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TrueMetis Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 I just looked it up and it seems it had been misattributed to Stalin: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin But looking into it further, there is no evidence that it comes from Churchill either. I may stand corrected. Either way it's a good quote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 It's a wonderful quote. Wonder what else Stalin has for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TrueMetis Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 It's a wonderful quote. Wonder what else Stalin has for us. When you right your right, doesn't matter what type of person you were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 When you right your right, doesn't matter what type of person you were. So you agree with him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TrueMetis Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 So you agree with him? He's right. One person dying doesn't mean anything, it's an anecdote. Thousands or millions dying is statistically significant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 I thought this was about the Mosque... did you notice that it's no longer called Cordoba it's now Park 51 wonder why - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 I thought this was about the Mosque... did you notice that it's no longer called Cordoba it's now Park 51 wonder why - Because people are whining about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Because people are whining about it. No... Because it was deliberately inflammatory... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 No... Because it was deliberately inflammatory... OBJECTION! Calls for speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 OBJECTION! Calls for speculation. OK... It was suspiciously inflammatory... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 He's right. One person dying doesn't mean anything, it's an anecdote. Thousands or millions dying is statistically significant. This is what he said: "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." Sounds to me as if he's saying the opposite. That one death is a tragedy, while millions is nothing more than a statistic. I don't understand how you could interpret "one person dying doesn't mean anything" from "a single death is a tragedy." And of course you added the "significant" to it, which completely changes the meaning of that part of the quote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 I thought this was about the Mosque... did you notice that it's no longer called Cordoba it's now Park 51 wonder why - Because they want to focus on the community part of it, not the religious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 OK... It was suspiciously inflammatory... Withdrawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 This is what he said: "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." Sounds to me as if he's saying the opposite. That one death is a tragedy, while millions is nothing more than a statistic. I don't understand how you could interpret "one person dying doesn't mean anything" from "a single death is a tragedy." And of course you added the "significant" to it, which completely changes the meaning of that part of the quote. Your interpretation of this supposed Stalin quote is correct. A million deaths means nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 OK... It was suspiciously inflammatory... "Inflammatory" is a great word to describe what happened in that area-literally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 This is what he said: "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." Sounds to me as if he's saying the opposite. That one death is a tragedy, while millions is nothing more than a statistic. Yeah that's the correct interpretation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 "Inflammatory" is a great word to describe what happened in that area-literally. I know I'm not the first to ask this,but Why is this the best place for this Mosque??? To me,the mosque is'nt the problem,it's the time and place(emphasis on place) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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