Mr.Canada Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 A March 11 letter from the Niagara Falls office of Citizenship and Immigration Canada told Khaled Abdul-Hamid Syed: “This refers to your application for work permit and documents for your accompanying family members. Your application as requested is refused. …“A letter was mailed on 04 September 2009 notifying you of the decision of refusal on your previous application at which time you were requested to leave Canada. “You must leave Canada (before your visa expires) … Failure to do so could result in enforcement actions being taken against you.” Source Here's whats wrong with the system in Canada. The RCMP should arrest him and put him on a plane immediately. Not wait for him to do so on his own, he could easily dissappear into Canada and become a dangerous fundamentalist Muslim fugitive. We don't need any more of these people running free in Canada. How long will it be before Muslims bomb the subway in Toronto? What steps are we taking to protect Canadians? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjre Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 (edited) Here's whats wrong with the system in Canada. The RCMP should arrest him and put him on a plane immediately. Not wait for him to do so on his own, he could easily dissappear into Canada and become a dangerous fundamentalist Muslim fugitive... It is not proper to connect dangerous with the religion. If you like to talk in that way, we can easily find the following: Despite the ravages of Europe’s violent past, in the 20 th century, Western Civilization took warfare to new extremes. A conservative estimate puts the total number of brutal deaths in the 20 th century at more than 250 million. Of these, Muslims are responsible for less than 10 million deaths. Christians, or those coming from Christian backgrounds account for more than 200 million of these! The greatest death totals come from World War I (about 20 million, at least 90 % of which were inflicted by “Christians”) and World War II ( 90 million, at least 50% of which were inflicted by “Christians,” the majority of the rest occurring in the Far East). Given this grim history, it appears that we Europeans must all come to grips with the fact that Islamic civilization has actually been incomparably less brutal than Christian civilization. Did the Holocaust of over 6 million Jews occur out of the background of a Muslim Civilization?In the 20th century alone, Western and/or Christian powers have been responsible for at least twenty times more deaths than have Muslim powers. In this most brutal of centuries, we created incomparably more civilian casualties than have Muslims in the whole of Islamic history. This continues even in our day—witness the slaughter of 900,000 Rwandans in 1994 in a population that was over 90 % Christian; or the genocide of over 300,000 Muslims and systematic rape of over 100,000 Muslim women by Christian Serbs in Bosnia between 1992 and 1995. The horrible truth is that, numerically and statistically speaking, Christian Civilization is the bloodiest and most violent of all civilizations in all of history, and is responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths. -- http://www.islam101.com/terror/mythViolence.htm Columbus Day should be remembered as the "Day of Indian Resistance", he said.Spanish, Portuguese and other foreign conquerors had massacred South America's Indian inhabitants at an average rate of roughly "one every 10 minutes", he said. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3184668.stm Even Canadian media are talk about Aboriginal Peoples, Muslims face discrimination most: poll Edited March 30, 2010 by bjre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Not surprising of the socialist, trying to find a victim to latch onto....very predictable. This leading Imam was booted out of Canada but is asked nicely to leave on his own. This is just silly, he should be arrested and put on a plane bound for his home nation. With the bombing of subways by Muslims around the world we cannot take any chances any longer, we need to protect the citizens of Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Here's whats wrong with the system in Canada. The RCMP should arrest him and put him on a plane immediately. Not wait for him to do so on his own, he could easily dissappear into Canada and become a dangerous fundamentalist Muslim fugitive. We don't need any more of these people running free in Canada. How long will it be before Muslims bomb the subway in Toronto? What steps are we taking to protect Canadians? Arrest him why ? His visa hasn't run out yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Arrest him why ? His visa hasn't run out yet. He's ordered out of Canada. I thought of this as well. There's nothing to stop him from not leaving at all. Hopefully the RCMP is keeping tabs on the Imam. I'm sure that since he's a leading Imam he'd be hard to hide anyhow but at the same time since he is so revered maybe more people would be willing to hide him so putting Canadians at risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I don't believe it's the RCMPs job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I don't believe people bother with the false dillemas set out in Mr Canada threads... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 He's ordered out of Canada. I thought of this as well. There's nothing to stop him from not leaving at all. Hopefully the RCMP is keeping tabs on the Imam. I'm sure that since he's a leading Imam he'd be hard to hide anyhow but at the same time since he is so revered maybe more people would be willing to hide him so putting Canadians at risk. Nobody's at risk, except your risk of having a breakdown of some kind over this. My parent's parish brings in priests on Visas all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Muslims have had mosques in Canada for over 70 years, and still have to bring in foreigners to be their imams. What's the deal? -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Here's whats wrong with the system in Canada. The RCMP should arrest him and put him on a plane immediately. Not wait for him to do so on his own, he could easily dissappear into Canada and become a dangerous fundamentalist Muslim fugitive. We don't need any more of these people running free in Canada. How long will it be before Muslims bomb the subway in Toronto? What steps are we taking to protect Canadians? Has there been any suggestion that he's a security risk? Beyond that, would you demand the same if he was a leading Rabbi or Catholic Priest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Not wait for him to do so on his own, he could easily dissappear into Canada and become a dangerous fundamentalist Muslim fugitive. We don't need any more of these people running free in Canada. How long will it be before Muslims bomb the subway in Toronto? Blow things out of proportion much? What exactly makes this man a fundamentalist Muslim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Blow things out of proportion much? What exactly makes this man a fundamentalist Muslim? The potential is always there. Who knows what this man is preaching. Many mosques in Canada preach Islamofacist ideals, this could be one of them. We must protect Canadian society from terrorist attacks. We're going to be attacked in our Subway, it's not a matter of if but rather when. When it happens I'm sure they'll be all sorts of people on the left making excuses for them and apologizing for them. Bottom line is why take the chance. yes anyone who is ordered out of the country should be deposited on the next plane back to their home country. No matter of race, religion or sexual orientation. If our government deems the person "no good" out they go, immediately. All visas revoked and kicked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 The potential is always there. Who knows what this man is preaching. Many mosques in Canada preach Islamofacist ideals, this could be one of them. We must protect Canadian society from terrorist attacks. We're going to be attacked in our Subway, it's not a matter of if but rather when. When it happens I'm sure they'll be all sorts of people on the left making excuses for them and apologizing for them. I think what we were asking for was some actual evidence, not just a generic slur. I have no problem with removing a guy if he stays past his visa, but you're making this sound like some dangerous Islamist is here, and I want concrete evidence of that. Bottom line is why take the chance. yes anyone who is ordered out of the country should be deposited on the next plane back to their home country. No matter of race, religion or sexual orientation. If our government deems the person "no good" out they go, immediately. All visas revoked and kicked out. They didn't deem him no good. His visa is running out. Are you illiterate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 They didn't deem him no good. His visa is running out. Are you illiterate? They denied him status. This action makes the man and his family not desirable for Canada. Since I'm typing this and you can read it I would've thought it was obvious I'm quite literate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 They denied him status. This action makes the man and his family not desirable for Canada. Since I'm typing this and you can read it I would've thought it was obvious I'm quite literate. His visa is running out. When peoples visas run out, they have to leave. I'm still waiting for some evidence that he's a risk to Canada. Please provide some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 His visa is running out. When peoples visas run out, they have to leave. I'm still waiting for some evidence that he's a risk to Canada. Please provide some. HIs denial is the proof. It's so easy to get status here in Canada. We let anyone in just about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 HIs denial is the proof. It's so easy to get status here in Canada. We let anyone in just about. Point 1 - Lots of people get visa renewals denied. Point 2 - You have no idea how the process works. You're talking out of your posterior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjre Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 With the bombing of subways by Muslims around the world we cannot take any chances any longer, we need to protect the citizens of Canada. Associated Press / March 30, 2010 DETROIT — Nine alleged members of a Christian militia group that was girding for battle with the antichrist were charged yesterday with plotting to kill a police officer and slaughter scores more by bombing the funeral — all in hopes of touching off an uprising against the US government. Seven men and one woman believed to be part of the Michigan-based Hutaree were arrested over the weekend in raids in Michigan, Indiana, and Ohio. The ninth suspect was arrested last night after a search in rural southern Michigan. http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2010/03/30/us_says_christian_militia_targeted_police_in_deadly_plot/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Point 1 - Lots of people get visa renewals denied. Point 2 - You have no idea how the process works. You're talking out of your posterior. Lol. Come on TB. First, this one made the news so this makes it special as it was a leading Islamic Imam. Second, I have the general idea. Apply, wait for response and sometimes get called to a hearing. Fairly simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadBrother Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Lol. Come on TB. First, this one made the news so this makes it special as it was a leading Islamic Imam. So, between being a bigot and being easily manipulated by a sensationalistic story, you assumed he must be preaching Jihad, right? Second, I have the general idea. Apply, wait for response and sometimes get called to a hearing. Fairly simple. Staying for any time in this country can be quite arduous, and the paperwork often dizzying. Some folks get visa extensions denied simply because of the paperwork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 (edited) So, between being a bigot and being easily manipulated by a sensationalistic story, you assumed he must be preaching Jihad, right? No, not at all but he could be. We don't know is the point but better to err on the side of caution. I'm on the side of Canadian citizens before a foreigners. Call me crazy but I'd protect my own people first. Staying for any time in this country can be quite arduous, and the paperwork often dizzying. Some folks get visa extensions denied simply because of the paperwork. Sure, why not. Fair enough. Edited March 30, 2010 by Mr.Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Muslims have had mosques in Canada for over 70 years, and still have to bring in foreigners to be their imams. What's the deal? -k That's funny, because I was thinking I've never ever heard of or seen or read about a Canadian born Imam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 They didn't deem him no good. His visa is running out. Are you illiterate? Ironic, given his fatwa against credit cards.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 No, not at all but he could be. We don't know is the point but better to err on the side of caution. I'm on the side of Canadian citizens before a foreigners. Call me crazy but I'd protect my own people first. Now you're picking on a cleric specifically because of his religion ? Do you assert that you're not a bigot ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Canada Posted April 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Now you're picking on a cleric specifically because of his religion ? Do you assert that you're not a bigot ? In no way am I "picking" on him because of his religion. Any person deemed not welcome should be immediately removed from my country. We don't need any more illegals. Bigot - : a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance Source No I'm not a bigot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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